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Maybe I missed it but is there any word on who is going to start this week at QB? What are your thoughts on alternating each series with Legas and Hillstead? They both have shown they can be effective. Go Aggies!
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I don’t know who’s going to start, but I’m not in favor of the two QB system. Too many times that has shown not to work well with programs. I’d rather BA make a decision on who the best QB is and roll with that guy.
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IDK if you'd call it a true 2 QB system because it didn't seem all that systematic but we did win a MWC while regularly playing 2 QBs.
But that did seem to set us up to lose one and we probably chose wrong.
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True but he was certainly sharing a lot more snaps than a true QB1.Aggies0987 wrote: ↑October 18th, 2023, 11:30 pmBonner was clearly the starter after the first game in 2021.
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He broke the single season TD record… he was the unquestioned QB1Imakeitrain wrote: ↑October 18th, 2023, 11:37 pmTrue but he was certainly sharing a lot more snaps than a true QB1.Aggies0987 wrote: ↑October 18th, 2023, 11:30 pmBonner was clearly the starter after the first game in 2021.
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I think BA will roll with Hillstead. He has always said that he believes a starter shouldn't lose his job due to injury and I think he'll use the same phrase here. He has also referred to Legas as doing what he is supposed to do by staying ready and prepared. Those terms infer that BA thinks of Coop as the #2 and BA hasn't changed how he has spoken about Legas even after these last 2 games as the starter.
I think BA recoginizes that McCae is the future and also gives us the best shot to win a lot of games to finish out this season.
I think BA recoginizes that McCae is the future and also gives us the best shot to win a lot of games to finish out this season.
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If you're not going to read what I actually wrote then why are you responding to me?Aggies0987 wrote: ↑October 18th, 2023, 11:46 pmHe broke the single season TD record… he was the unquestioned QB1Imakeitrain wrote: ↑October 18th, 2023, 11:37 pmTrue but he was certainly sharing a lot more snaps than a true QB1.Aggies0987 wrote: ↑October 18th, 2023, 11:30 pmBonner was clearly the starter after the first game in 2021.
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They did trade snaps early but by the back half of the season was Peasley even playing?Imakeitrain wrote: ↑October 19th, 2023, 6:05 amIf you're not going to read what I actually wrote then why are you responding to me?Aggies0987 wrote: ↑October 18th, 2023, 11:46 pmHe broke the single season TD record… he was the unquestioned QB1Imakeitrain wrote: ↑October 18th, 2023, 11:37 pmTrue but he was certainly sharing a lot more snaps than a true QB1.Aggies0987 wrote: ↑October 18th, 2023, 11:30 pmBonner was clearly the starter after the first game in 2021.
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Not equating the two situations but I remember Ga always saying a guy shouldn’t lose his spot to injury then starting AK every week even when Chuckie was healthy. It worked out pretty well then but I don’t think our guys now are on the same level as those two were back then.Aglicious wrote: ↑October 19th, 2023, 1:11 amI think BA will roll with Hillstead. He has always said that he believes a starter shouldn't lose his job due to injury and I think he'll use the same phrase here. He has also referred to Legas as doing what he is supposed to do by staying ready and prepared. Those terms infer that BA thinks of Coop as the #2 and BA hasn't changed how he has spoken about Legas even after these last 2 games as the starter.
I think BA recoginizes that McCae is the future and also gives us the best shot to win a lot of games to finish out this season.
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Yes, because we were up so big that Peasley played a few second halfs.Hoot wrote: ↑October 19th, 2023, 7:15 amThey did trade snaps early but by the back half of the season was Peasley even playing?Imakeitrain wrote: ↑October 19th, 2023, 6:05 amIf you're not going to read what I actually wrote then why are you responding to me?Aggies0987 wrote: ↑October 18th, 2023, 11:46 pmHe broke the single season TD record… he was the unquestioned QB1Imakeitrain wrote: ↑October 18th, 2023, 11:37 pmTrue but he was certainly sharing a lot more snaps than a true QB1.Aggies0987 wrote: ↑October 18th, 2023, 11:30 pmBonner was clearly the starter after the first game in 2021.
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I understand Hillstead is the future, but the real question Coach A needs to ask is who is the qb who is going to give us the best chance to win now. We have a good shot at bowl eligibility and could end up being one of the top 3 teams in the conference. With conference re-alignment coming up, I can't stress enough how important that is. We need to put our best foot forward.
If starting Hillstead clearly is the better option, I'm for it. If it's too close to call, I'd go with Coop. What he's doing right now is working, and if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
If starting Hillstead clearly is the better option, I'm for it. If it's too close to call, I'd go with Coop. What he's doing right now is working, and if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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Re: Dual Quartefbacks
100% correct my Aggie brother. Bonner and Peasley shared snaps through the Air Force game.Imakeitrain wrote: ↑October 19th, 2023, 6:05 amIf you're not going to read what I actually wrote then why are you responding to me?Aggies0987 wrote: ↑October 18th, 2023, 11:46 pmHe broke the single season TD record… he was the unquestioned QB1Imakeitrain wrote: ↑October 18th, 2023, 11:37 pmTrue but he was certainly sharing a lot more snaps than a true QB1.Aggies0987 wrote: ↑October 18th, 2023, 11:30 pmBonner was clearly the starter after the first game in 2021.
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I honestly think Coop has done enough to get another start.
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CK had the nasty neck injury against Hawaii and never came back. He was probably healthy, but not really 'healthy'.Hoot wrote: ↑October 19th, 2023, 7:18 amNot equating the two situations but I remember Ga always saying a guy shouldn’t lose his spot to injury then starting AK every week even when Chuckie was healthy. It worked out pretty well then but I don’t think our guys now are on the same level as those two were back then.Aglicious wrote: ↑October 19th, 2023, 1:11 amI think BA will roll with Hillstead. He has always said that he believes a starter shouldn't lose his job due to injury and I think he'll use the same phrase here. He has also referred to Legas as doing what he is supposed to do by staying ready and prepared. Those terms infer that BA thinks of Coop as the #2 and BA hasn't changed how he has spoken about Legas even after these last 2 games as the starter.
I think BA recoginizes that McCae is the future and also gives us the best shot to win a lot of games to finish out this season.
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"Players shouldn't lose their job because of injury." -- Wally Pipp
"Not because of injury, but because the next guy up just showed he's better." -- Lou Gehrig
"Not because of injury, but because the next guy up just showed he's better." -- Lou Gehrig
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With Cooper stepping up to an extent it’s not a bad problem we have.
I just don’t want us to make it a bad problem for the future by mismanaging this. We lost a lot of good QBs who could have contributed eventually by mismanaging these situations.
I just don’t want us to make it a bad problem for the future by mismanaging this. We lost a lot of good QBs who could have contributed eventually by mismanaging these situations.
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Agreed, especially playing on the road this week. I was down on Cooper earlier but he has improved the last 3 games.
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In Hillstead’s lone road start at UConn, he had a bit of a deer in the headlights look. If there’s a chance he’s going to be antsy or unsure of himself while on the road and coming off of an injury, I would go with Coop. Give McCae two more weeks (over the bye) to further heal up and build back up his confidence. Work him back in for SDSU or Nevada. I do think Hillstead is the guy next year and would like to see him get some games in through the rest of this season, but winning at SJSU is critically important for bowl eligibility. Cooper seems to be in enough of a rhythm to lead us to victory Saturday. Of course, if he struggles then you have a short leash and put in McCae.
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"if you have 2 quarterbacks, you have none" - John Madden
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I disagree. Legas played his heart out, but Legas is still not good enough to have the starting quarterback job. Hillstead is the starting quarterback. It would be nice if Broc Lane could stop dropping passes and giving the ball to the other team when Hillstead is quarterback.
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I would also start Cooper at this point.
If Coop knows he's not starting Saturday, I'd be willing to bet people in his camp are already looking into transfer options.
If Coop knows he's not starting Saturday, I'd be willing to bet people in his camp are already looking into transfer options.
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THIS. Solid post Chatman. Of note is that our Freshman Q B Hillstead has played in enough games where any more playing time would eliminate his Red Shirt status certainly for this season. Legas seems to be playing much better now that he has had some time to watch the game from a different perspective.
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I see what you’re saying. When AK got hurt in the bowl game we should’ve put in Taylor Hughes not Chuckie. GA 1.0 is overrated.FloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑October 19th, 2023, 7:40 amCK had the nasty neck injury against Hawaii and never came back. He was probably healthy, but not really 'healthy'.Hoot wrote: ↑October 19th, 2023, 7:18 amNot equating the two situations but I remember Ga always saying a guy shouldn’t lose his spot to injury then starting AK every week even when Chuckie was healthy. It worked out pretty well then but I don’t think our guys now are on the same level as those two were back then.Aglicious wrote: ↑October 19th, 2023, 1:11 amI think BA will roll with Hillstead. He has always said that he believes a starter shouldn't lose his job due to injury and I think he'll use the same phrase here. He has also referred to Legas as doing what he is supposed to do by staying ready and prepared. Those terms infer that BA thinks of Coop as the #2 and BA hasn't changed how he has spoken about Legas even after these last 2 games as the starter.
I think BA recoginizes that McCae is the future and also gives us the best shot to win a lot of games to finish out this season.
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I remember getting some grief here when I said you don't lose your job due to injury in regard to Bonner. The reality was that BA gave Logan 3 games post injury to prove himself and when he couldn't perform BA pulled him.
Coop has had his fair shot. McCae hasn't. If he's healthy, I think Hillstead should get the start.
Coop has had his fair shot. McCae hasn't. If he's healthy, I think Hillstead should get the start.
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I don't even remember AK getting hurt in the bowl game. Are you spreading disinformation again - like the time you convinced everyone in the Sandbox your grandfather invented the semicolon?Hoot wrote: ↑October 19th, 2023, 10:52 amI see what you’re saying. When AK got hurt in the bowl game we should’ve put in Taylor Hughes not Chuckie. GA 1.0 is overrated.FloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑October 19th, 2023, 7:40 amCK had the nasty neck injury against Hawaii and never came back. He was probably healthy, but not really 'healthy'.Hoot wrote: ↑October 19th, 2023, 7:18 amNot equating the two situations but I remember Ga always saying a guy shouldn’t lose his spot to injury then starting AK every week even when Chuckie was healthy. It worked out pretty well then but I don’t think our guys now are on the same level as those two were back then.Aglicious wrote: ↑October 19th, 2023, 1:11 amI think BA will roll with Hillstead. He has always said that he believes a starter shouldn't lose his job due to injury and I think he'll use the same phrase here. He has also referred to Legas as doing what he is supposed to do by staying ready and prepared. Those terms infer that BA thinks of Coop as the #2 and BA hasn't changed how he has spoken about Legas even after these last 2 games as the starter.
I think BA recoginizes that McCae is the future and also gives us the best shot to win a lot of games to finish out this season.
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True in some cases, but other teams have 2 stars(think of Ohio State with Fields and Stroud or Alabama with Tua and Jalen Hurts). Don't know if either QB would qualify as a star, but both are great passers who can throw for 350 yards in our offense.
I'd go with Hillstead because of upside, but I won't be crying if Legas is the guy.
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He stubbed his toe or something and Chuckie came in for a few plays. Also you’re misremembering that story. He didn’t invent the semicolon, he invented the colonoscopy.FloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑October 19th, 2023, 11:15 amI don't even remember AK getting hurt in the bowl game. Are you spreading disinformation again - like the time you convinced everyone in the Sandbox your grandfather invented the semicolon?Hoot wrote: ↑October 19th, 2023, 10:52 amI see what you’re saying. When AK got hurt in the bowl game we should’ve put in Taylor Hughes not Chuckie. GA 1.0 is overrated.FloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑October 19th, 2023, 7:40 amCK had the nasty neck injury against Hawaii and never came back. He was probably healthy, but not really 'healthy'.Hoot wrote: ↑October 19th, 2023, 7:18 amNot equating the two situations but I remember Ga always saying a guy shouldn’t lose his spot to injury then starting AK every week even when Chuckie was healthy. It worked out pretty well then but I don’t think our guys now are on the same level as those two were back then.Aglicious wrote: ↑October 19th, 2023, 1:11 amI think BA will roll with Hillstead. He has always said that he believes a starter shouldn't lose his job due to injury and I think he'll use the same phrase here. He has also referred to Legas as doing what he is supposed to do by staying ready and prepared. Those terms infer that BA thinks of Coop as the #2 and BA hasn't changed how he has spoken about Legas even after these last 2 games as the starter.
I think BA recoginizes that McCae is the future and also gives us the best shot to win a lot of games to finish out this season.
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Oh, come on!Hoot wrote: ↑October 19th, 2023, 11:40 amHe stubbed his toe or something and Chuckie came in for a few plays. Also you’re misremembering that story. He didn’t invent the semicolon, he invented the colonoscopy.FloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑October 19th, 2023, 11:15 amI don't even remember AK getting hurt in the bowl game. Are you spreading disinformation again - like the time you convinced everyone in the Sandbox your grandfather invented the semicolon?Hoot wrote: ↑October 19th, 2023, 10:52 amI see what you’re saying. When AK got hurt in the bowl game we should’ve put in Taylor Hughes not Chuckie. GA 1.0 is overrated.FloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑October 19th, 2023, 7:40 amCK had the nasty neck injury against Hawaii and never came back. He was probably healthy, but not really 'healthy'.Hoot wrote: ↑October 19th, 2023, 7:18 amNot equating the two situations but I remember Ga always saying a guy shouldn’t lose his spot to injury then starting AK every week even when Chuckie was healthy. It worked out pretty well then but I don’t think our guys now are on the same level as those two were back then.Aglicious wrote: ↑October 19th, 2023, 1:11 amI think BA will roll with Hillstead. He has always said that he believes a starter shouldn't lose his job due to injury and I think he'll use the same phrase here. He has also referred to Legas as doing what he is supposed to do by staying ready and prepared. Those terms infer that BA thinks of Coop as the #2 and BA hasn't changed how he has spoken about Legas even after these last 2 games as the starter.
I think BA recoginizes that McCae is the future and also gives us the best shot to win a lot of games to finish out this season.
Semicolonoscopy was right there for the taking and you missed it.
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“Semicolonoscopy” now you’re just making things up. Do not mock the Hoot family legacy!BearLakeMonster wrote: ↑October 19th, 2023, 12:07 pmOh, come on!Hoot wrote: ↑October 19th, 2023, 11:40 amHe stubbed his toe or something and Chuckie came in for a few plays. Also you’re misremembering that story. He didn’t invent the semicolon, he invented the colonoscopy.FloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑October 19th, 2023, 11:15 amI don't even remember AK getting hurt in the bowl game. Are you spreading disinformation again - like the time you convinced everyone in the Sandbox your grandfather invented the semicolon?Hoot wrote: ↑October 19th, 2023, 10:52 amI see what you’re saying. When AK got hurt in the bowl game we should’ve put in Taylor Hughes not Chuckie. GA 1.0 is overrated.FloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑October 19th, 2023, 7:40 amCK had the nasty neck injury against Hawaii and never came back. He was probably healthy, but not really 'healthy'.Hoot wrote: ↑October 19th, 2023, 7:18 amNot equating the two situations but I remember Ga always saying a guy shouldn’t lose his spot to injury then starting AK every week even when Chuckie was healthy. It worked out pretty well then but I don’t think our guys now are on the same level as those two were back then.Aglicious wrote: ↑October 19th, 2023, 1:11 amI think BA will roll with Hillstead. He has always said that he believes a starter shouldn't lose his job due to injury and I think he'll use the same phrase here. He has also referred to Legas as doing what he is supposed to do by staying ready and prepared. Those terms infer that BA thinks of Coop as the #2 and BA hasn't changed how he has spoken about Legas even after these last 2 games as the starter.
I think BA recoginizes that McCae is the future and also gives us the best shot to win a lot of games to finish out this season.
Semicolonoscopy was right there for the taking and you missed it.
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He's already looking to transfer, regardless of his starting status the rest of the season.Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑October 19th, 2023, 9:42 amI would also start Cooper at this point.
If Coop knows he's not starting Saturday, I'd be willing to bet people in his camp are already looking into transfer options.
The relationship with BA has been damaged enough. Don't believe all that BA has put out, to the media about his handling of the QB situation.
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Wouldn't surprise me. Regardless of whether it was the right thing to do, being benched that quickly for a true Freshman and then having BA publicly criticize him the way he did after a 20 pt win over CSU probably has rubbed him the wrong way. (Not saying BA was wrong at all, but everyone sees the world through their own eyes).utahcountyaggie wrote: ↑October 19th, 2023, 12:09 pmHe's already looking to transfer, regardless of his starting status the rest of the season.Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑October 19th, 2023, 9:42 amI would also start Cooper at this point.
If Coop knows he's not starting Saturday, I'd be willing to bet people in his camp are already looking into transfer options.
The relationship with BA has been damaged enough. Don't believe all that BA has put out, to the media about his handling of the QB situation.
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