NAR: Coach Primetime

Elkaggie · Post by **Elkaggie** » December 5th, 2022, 11:42 am

This seems pretty incredible. What is everyone’s thoughts on this? I would bet he gets the Buffs turned around.

Roy McAvoy · Post by **Roy McAvoy** » December 5th, 2022, 11:49 am

Post by **AGinNEIowa** » December 5th, 2022, 11:55 am

how many scholarships can they sign this offseason?

ViAggie · Post by **ViAggie** » December 5th, 2022, 12:04 pm

get that Aflac money LOL

Post by **aggies22** » December 5th, 2022, 12:29 pm

AGinNEIowa wrote: ↑
December 5th, 2022, 11:55 am
how many scholarships can they sign this offseason?

The cap on scholarships given yearly has been abolished. Schools can now give schollies until they hit 85 regardless if they need to give 1 or 80 to get there.

ineptimusprime · Post by **ineptimusprime** » December 5th, 2022, 12:34 pm

Looks like there's going to be a fire sale of Colorado players in the portal. They went 1-11, so maybe not a lot of talent there?

I get what Sanders is trying to do, and I understand it too. Pretty abrasive to open up with asking everyone to enter the portal though.

Aggie84025 · Post by **Aggie84025** » December 5th, 2022, 12:39 pm

Be interesting to see how it plays out. He will get talent into the program. Whether or not he can get them to be competitive will be another story. It for sure will generate a lot of interest and money coming into that program which other than a few off years has been bad the last 10-15 years.

NavyBlueAggie · Post by **NavyBlueAggie** » December 5th, 2022, 12:57 pm

Appears to me the NCAA has now created a gypsy mentality with allowing the free wheeling transfer of collegiate football players. Young men, full of high expectations and short on experience can roll the dice on jumping for a better situation and even get some that reported NIL money. Our primary collegiate sport is turning into a social, financial and unmanageable disaster.

stang · Post by **stang** » December 5th, 2022, 1:31 pm

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑
December 5th, 2022, 12:34 pm
Looks like there's going to be a fire sale of Colorado players in the portal. They went 1-11, so maybe not a lot of talent there?

I get what Sanders is trying to do, and I understand it too. Pretty abrasive to open up with asking everyone to enter the portal though.

It is a lot, and it's rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. But Deon has done nothing but win as a coach, and he's going to a program that has done basically nothing but losing in recent years. He's been hired to win games, and there aren't a ton of guys you can win games with on that roster. It's going to be really interesting to see how his approach works at a P5 school rather than FCS.

Hoot · Post by **Hoot** » December 5th, 2022, 1:37 pm

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑
December 5th, 2022, 12:34 pm
Looks like there's going to be a fire sale of Colorado players in the portal. They went 1-11, so maybe not a lot of talent there?

I get what Sanders is trying to do, and I understand it too. Pretty abrasive to open up with asking everyone to enter the portal though.

Nothing wrong with being honest. It’s not personal. He just knows he can get better players there in a heartbeat. Why not let some of the kids know now?

AGNUMPI · Post by **AGNUMPI** » December 5th, 2022, 1:50 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
December 5th, 2022, 12:29 pm

AGinNEIowa wrote: ↑
December 5th, 2022, 11:55 am
how many scholarships can they sign this offseason?
The cap on scholarships given yearly has been abolished. Schools can now give schollies until they hit 85 regardless if they need to give 1 or 80 to get there.

When did that change occur?

We are sliding back to the good ol' days when the big programs with tons of resources took every advantage possible to keep the playing field tilted in their favor. As if they didn't have enough advantages already.

Yossarian · Post by **Yossarian** » December 5th, 2022, 1:51 pm

So the HBCUs really aren't that important to Sanders?

Aggie19 · Post by **Aggie19** » December 5th, 2022, 1:54 pm

Yossarian wrote: ↑
December 5th, 2022, 1:51 pm
So the HBCUs really aren't that important to Sanders?

They are, just ranked somewhere on his list lower than historically green money.

ViAggie · Post by **ViAggie** » December 5th, 2022, 3:42 pm

I love the quote from the AD on this one, how in the world does CU-Boulder put up with this kind of garbage? "We don't have the money [to pay him] yet, but I know we can come up with it..." REALLY? That's how you do it? You go out and hire an expensive coach w/o having the funds secured in hopes he does a good job and people start donating to the program? That's all it takes eh? WOW: https://www.yahoo.com/sports/new-colora ... 02151.html

utaggies · Post by **utaggies** » December 5th, 2022, 3:57 pm

ViAggie wrote: ↑
December 5th, 2022, 3:42 pm
I love the quote from the AD on this one, how in the world does CU-Boulder put up with this kind of garbage? "We don't have the money [to pay him] yet, but I know we can come up with it..." REALLY? That's how you do it? You go out and hire an expensive coach w/o having the funds secured in hopes he does a good job and people start donating to the program? That's all it takes eh? WOW: https://www.yahoo.com/sports/new-colora ... 02151.html

The answer to your question is “Yes” — that’s all it takes. When you tell folks a message they want to hear over and over again they soon begin to believe it. To back up that belief they send money. It is a time-honored tactic used by politicians and tele-evangelists. And it works, at least until someone shouts, “Hold it — the emperor has no clothes!”

ViAggie · Post by **ViAggie** » December 5th, 2022, 4:34 pm

utaggies wrote: ↑
December 5th, 2022, 3:57 pm

ViAggie wrote: ↑
December 5th, 2022, 3:42 pm
I love the quote from the AD on this one, how in the world does CU-Boulder put up with this kind of garbage? "We don't have the money [to pay him] yet, but I know we can come up with it..." REALLY? That's how you do it? You go out and hire an expensive coach w/o having the funds secured in hopes he does a good job and people start donating to the program? That's all it takes eh? WOW: https://www.yahoo.com/sports/new-colora ... 02151.html
The answer to your question is “Yes” — that’s all it takes. When you tell folks a message they want to hear over and over again they soon begin to believe it. To back up that belief they send money. It is a time-honored tactic used by politicians and tele-evangelists. And it works, at least until someone shouts, “Hold it — the emperor has no clothes!”

Nice way to tie the hands of the PUBLIC SCHOOL if they ever need to fire him before his contract is up.

Imakeitrain · Post by **Imakeitrain** » December 5th, 2022, 5:31 pm

We'll see. I'm sure the Buffs will get better they can't be worse.

He was able to get D-1 talent to the SWAC and cleaned out. But that may not be as true in the PAC-12- maybe more true than not. If Travis Hunter can stay healthy it could be cool. It could also save the PAC adding a dominant team at a necessary time for them. Is so it could save the MWC for now too (by not needing to raid the MWC)

On the other hand there is a lot of talent in the FBS. Patrick Ewing was a basketball star who coaches at Georgetown and Georgetown sucks now.

Either way I'm sure it'll be interesting to see what happens.

ViAggie · Post by **ViAggie** » December 5th, 2022, 6:13 pm

Imakeitrain wrote: ↑
December 5th, 2022, 5:31 pm
We'll see. I'm sure the Buffs will get better they can't be worse.

He was able to get D-1 talent to the SWAC and cleaned out. But that may not be as true in the PAC-12- maybe more true than not. If Travis Hunter can stay healthy it could be cool. It could also save the PAC adding a dominant team at a necessary time for them. Is so it could save the MWC for now too (by not needing to raid the MWC)

On the other hand there is a lot of talent in the FBS. Patrick Ewing was a basketball star who coaches at Georgetown and Georgetown sucks now.

Either way I'm sure it'll be interesting to see what happens.

For what it's worth, and I haven't looked into much so I don't know how accurate it is, but I've heard that one of the reasons why Colorado has such a tough time recruiting is because they don't offer many of the majors that the players want and those they do offer that are similar require a degree that's tougher to get. Not sure what to make of that, but I've heard this before.

Post by **aggies22** » December 5th, 2022, 6:57 pm

AGNUMPI wrote: ↑
December 5th, 2022, 1:50 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
December 5th, 2022, 12:29 pm

AGinNEIowa wrote: ↑
December 5th, 2022, 11:55 am
how many scholarships can they sign this offseason?
The cap on scholarships given yearly has been abolished. Schools can now give schollies until they hit 85 regardless if they need to give 1 or 80 to get there.
When did that change occur?

We are sliding back to the good ol' days when the big programs with tons of resources took every advantage possible to keep the playing field tilted in their favor. As if they didn't have enough advantages already.

Over the summer right as fall camps were beginning.

flying_scotsman2.0 · Post by **flying_scotsman2.0** » December 5th, 2022, 7:03 pm

I watched his speech. It was exhausting. I had to say “that’s what she said” like 50 times

utaggies · Post by **utaggies** » December 5th, 2022, 8:25 pm

flying_scotsman2.0 wrote: ↑
December 5th, 2022, 7:03 pm
I watched his speech. It was exhausting. I had to say “that’s what she said” like 50 times

Now that right there was funny!

Hoot · Post by **Hoot** » December 5th, 2022, 9:25 pm

Yossarian wrote: ↑
December 5th, 2022, 1:51 pm
So the HBCUs really aren't that important to Sanders?

They are still important to him but money is more important.

El Sapo · Post by **El Sapo** » December 6th, 2022, 10:51 am

Prime as a coach is/was only as good as his son was as a QB. Is his son coming to Colorado also?

FeartheFro · Post by **FeartheFro** » December 6th, 2022, 11:06 am

El Sapo wrote:Prime as a coach is/was only as good as his son was as a QB. Is his son coming to Colorado also?

Yes.

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QuackAttackAggie · Post by **QuackAttackAggie** » December 6th, 2022, 11:37 am

El Sapo wrote: ↑
December 6th, 2022, 10:51 am
Prime as a coach is/was only as good as his son was as a QB. Is his son coming to Colorado also?

he asked his son to stand up at the press conference and said that's the qb, so he's not giving anybody else a chance apparently. not that colorado has anybody worth giving a shot.

918AGG · Post by **918AGG** » December 6th, 2022, 11:59 am

ViAggie wrote: ↑
December 5th, 2022, 3:42 pm
I love the quote from the AD on this one, how in the world does CU-Boulder put up with this kind of garbage? "We don't have the money [to pay him] yet, but I know we can come up with it..." REALLY? That's how you do it? You go out and hire an expensive coach w/o having the funds secured in hopes he does a good job and people start donating to the program? That's all it takes eh? WOW: https://www.yahoo.com/sports/new-colora ... 02151.html

I'm cool with it, given that:
1) football runs everything
2) The PAC-12 is going the way of the world
3) CU football is terrible (and has been for awhile)
4) Time is running out if the Buffs want to get into the B1G (or wherever)
5) They need to make a big move if they want to get better, fast
6) It's not my money
7) There's a hell of a lot of money in Boulder

inconspicuous · Post by **inconspicuous** » December 6th, 2022, 12:20 pm

NavyBlueAggie wrote: ↑
December 5th, 2022, 12:57 pm
Appears to me the NCAA has now created a gypsy mentality with allowing the free wheeling transfer of collegiate football players. Young men, full of high expectations and short on experience can roll the dice on jumping for a better situation and even get some that reported NIL money. Our primary collegiate sport is turning into a social, financial and unmanageable disaster.

Ahh Yes, Capitalism at its finest. Free market Portal!

Hoot · Post by **Hoot** » December 6th, 2022, 12:23 pm

QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑
December 6th, 2022, 11:37 am

El Sapo wrote: ↑
December 6th, 2022, 10:51 am
Prime as a coach is/was only as good as his son was as a QB. Is his son coming to Colorado also?
he asked his son to stand up at the press conference and said that's the qb, so he's not giving anybody else a chance apparently. not that colorado has anybody worth giving a shot.

He did say he’d make him earn it. It’ll probably be a heated QB battle like Legas/Bonner this summer. In fairness though, they don’t have another option even close to what Shedeur gives them.

El Sapo · Post by **El Sapo** » December 6th, 2022, 12:49 pm

Hoot wrote: ↑
December 6th, 2022, 12:23 pm

QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑
December 6th, 2022, 11:37 am

El Sapo wrote: ↑
December 6th, 2022, 10:51 am
Prime as a coach is/was only as good as his son was as a QB. Is his son coming to Colorado also?
he asked his son to stand up at the press conference and said that's the qb, so he's not giving anybody else a chance apparently. not that colorado has anybody worth giving a shot.
He did say he’d make him earn it. It’ll probably be a heated QB battle like Legas/Bonner this summer. In fairness though, they don’t have another option even close to what Shedeur gives them.

Prime's kid looked good enough at QB vs HBCU competition. He's nothing special. Interesting to see how he holds up in the 12 pack. Prime also recruited the #1 prospect in the nation Travis Hunter. If Prime brings 4-5 top players to Colorado that he recruited to Jackson State, they'll be competitive next season

Hoot · Post by **Hoot** » December 6th, 2022, 2:04 pm

El Sapo wrote: ↑
December 6th, 2022, 12:49 pm

Hoot wrote: ↑
December 6th, 2022, 12:23 pm

QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑
December 6th, 2022, 11:37 am

El Sapo wrote: ↑
December 6th, 2022, 10:51 am
Prime as a coach is/was only as good as his son was as a QB. Is his son coming to Colorado also?
he asked his son to stand up at the press conference and said that's the qb, so he's not giving anybody else a chance apparently. not that colorado has anybody worth giving a shot.
He did say he’d make him earn it. It’ll probably be a heated QB battle like Legas/Bonner this summer. In fairness though, they don’t have another option even close to what Shedeur gives them.
Prime's kid looked good enough at QB vs HBCU competition. He's nothing special. Interesting to see how he holds up in the 12 pack. Prime also recruited the #1 prospect in the nation Travis Hunter. If Prime brings 4-5 top players to Colorado that he recruited to Jackson State, they'll be competitive next season

Let’s not sell him short here. It remains to be seen if he’ll translate to the P12 but the kid is an absolute stud right now. He’s a finalist for the Walter Payton award.

Utah alum that likes USU · Post by **Utah alum that likes USU** » December 6th, 2022, 3:38 pm

Deion Sanders is pretty much Lincoln Riley with 1/4 the credibility, 300% more swagger, and about 4% of the U$C budget. Maybe 7-5 ceiling next year? More likely 5-7 with lots of 'feel good' national news stories. Meanwhile Whittingham hits 10 wins again and national media fails to notice.

Hoot · Post by **Hoot** » December 6th, 2022, 4:42 pm

Utah alum that likes USU wrote: ↑
December 6th, 2022, 3:38 pm
Deion Sanders is pretty much Lincoln Riley with 1/4 the credibility, 300% more swagger, and about 4% of the U$C budget. Maybe 7-5 ceiling next year? More likely 5-7 with lots of 'feel good' national news stories. Meanwhile Whittingham hits 10 wins again and national media fails to notice.

Wrong fan site amigo.

SaintAggie · Post by **SaintAggie** » December 7th, 2022, 10:03 am

Utah alum that likes USU wrote: ↑
December 6th, 2022, 3:38 pm
Deion Sanders is pretty much Lincoln Riley with 1/4 the credibility, 300% more swagger, and about 4% of the U$C budget. Maybe 7-5 ceiling next year? More likely 5-7 with lots of 'feel good' national news stories. Meanwhile Whittingham hits 10 wins again and national media fails to notice.

First, 7-5 would be excellent.

Second, nobody here cares about uu except you.

dirtnsnow · Post by **dirtnsnow** » December 7th, 2022, 10:34 am

Utah alum that likes USU wrote: ↑
December 6th, 2022, 3:38 pm
Deion Sanders is pretty much Lincoln Riley with 1/4 the credibility, 300% more swagger, and about 4% of the U$C budget. Maybe 7-5 ceiling next year? More likely 5-7 with lots of 'feel good' national news stories. Meanwhile Whittingham hits 10 wins again and national media fails to notice.

And still won't play USU in any major sports.

Post by **aggies22** » December 7th, 2022, 10:55 am

El Sapo wrote: ↑
December 6th, 2022, 12:49 pm

Hoot wrote: ↑
December 6th, 2022, 12:23 pm

QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑
December 6th, 2022, 11:37 am

El Sapo wrote: ↑
December 6th, 2022, 10:51 am
Prime as a coach is/was only as good as his son was as a QB. Is his son coming to Colorado also?
he asked his son to stand up at the press conference and said that's the qb, so he's not giving anybody else a chance apparently. not that colorado has anybody worth giving a shot.
He did say he’d make him earn it. It’ll probably be a heated QB battle like Legas/Bonner this summer. In fairness though, they don’t have another option even close to what Shedeur gives them.
Prime's kid looked good enough at QB vs HBCU competition. He's nothing special. Interesting to see how he holds up in the 12 pack. Prime also recruited the #1 prospect in the nation Travis Hunter. If Prime brings 4-5 top players to Colorado that he recruited to Jackson State, they'll be competitive next season

And he scored a 5* WR hours after his initial press conference.

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