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Liberty job just opened up

Post by rAggie » November 28th, 2022, 2:24 pm

Conventional wisdom is that BA might not be a candidate for top jobs given a 6-6 season, but I wouldn't be surprised at all to see him get on the radar of Liberty -- Hugh Freeze is going to Auburn.

Something to watch.
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Re: Liberty job just opened up

Post by ViAggie » November 28th, 2022, 2:55 pm

Colorado just opened up too. I get that Blake is very religious, but Liberty wouldn't even be a lateral move IMHO, and after having to payout Jerry Falwell Jr. and his Pool boy, they'll be in no mood to pay Blake's buyout either.
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Post by AndersenWells2024 » November 28th, 2022, 3:03 pm

Doubt they have the cash to pull BA, they're likely going FCS shopping.



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Post by dirtnsnow » November 28th, 2022, 3:07 pm

They were paying freeze just under $5m. I wouldn't assume Blake is safe based on "lateral" moves. Money talks.
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Post by GeoAg » November 28th, 2022, 3:07 pm

They have the cash if they want him IMO.


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Post by Aggie702 » November 28th, 2022, 3:10 pm

Harsin, Malzahn, and Freeze all coached at Arky St before being head coach at Auburn. No need to worry about BA going anywhere just yet. We will have him the next 3 years. After which Auburn will fire Freeze and name BA their new head coach since they only hire former Arky St coaches, lol.
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Post by aggieborn » November 28th, 2022, 3:10 pm

from a current football standpoint it might be lateral at best. but from a money and future resources standpoint it’s an upgrade and a really underrated program.



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Re: Liberty job just opened up

Post by QuackAttackAggie » November 28th, 2022, 3:11 pm

If there's a school in America that doesn't care about sexual abuse litigation tarnishing the PR of a hire, it would be liberty.


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Re: Liberty job just opened up

Post by ViAggie » November 28th, 2022, 3:16 pm

aggieborn wrote:
November 28th, 2022, 3:10 pm
from a current football standpoint it might be lateral at best. but from a money and future resources standpoint it’s an upgrade and a really underrated program.
I've actually predicted before that I think that Liberty will eventually join the B12... when the B12 becomes the new West Coast Conference with Football. They won't get Notre Dame to join though, maybe as a BB only school to help offset Oral Roberts.


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Re: Liberty job just opened up

Post by USU78 » November 28th, 2022, 3:34 pm

Briles is rumored to be the new guy.





Since the Liberty AD was Briles' AD @ Baylor
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Post by Aggie702 » November 28th, 2022, 3:35 pm

Freeze was making $3.5MM/year at Liberty. Auburn will pay him $6.5MM/year.

We are paying BA $1.3MM/year. If Liberty wants BA, they can easily get him - but for the salary they are willing to pay, they will have plenty of options.

As an aside, when Freeze was first hired at Ole Miss in 2011, his contract was for $1.5MM+ incentives. Crazy to see how much coaching salaries at the P5 level have increased in the past decade.



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Post by 3rdGenAggie » November 28th, 2022, 3:43 pm

McMurphy says Briles is not a candidate.



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Post by USU78 » November 28th, 2022, 3:51 pm

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November 28th, 2022, 3:35 pm
Freeze was making $3.5MM/year at Liberty. Auburn will pay him $6.5MM/year.

We are paying BA $1.3MM/year. If Liberty wants BA, they can easily get him - but for the salary they are willing to pay, they will have plenty of options.

As an aside, when Freeze was first hired at Ole Miss in 2011, his contract was for $1.5MM+ incentives. Crazy to see how much coaching salaries at the P5 level have increased in the past decade.
My source sez Freezy got himself a raise this year to $5M


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Post by Gidbob » November 28th, 2022, 4:02 pm

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If there's a school in America that doesn't care about sexual abuse litigation tarnishing the PR of a hire, it would be liberty.


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As far as I'm aware there hasn't been a sexual abuse case against him. People are just mad about that one comment.
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Re: Liberty job just opened up

Post by aggies22 » November 28th, 2022, 5:09 pm

USU78 wrote:
November 28th, 2022, 3:34 pm
Briles is rumored to be the new guy.





Since the Liberty AD was Briles' AD @ Baylor
Perfect fit.



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Re: Liberty job just opened up

Post by QuackAttackAggie » November 28th, 2022, 6:01 pm

Gidbob wrote:
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If there's a school in America that doesn't care about sexual abuse litigation tarnishing the PR of a hire, it would be liberty.


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As far as I'm aware there hasn't been a sexual abuse case against him. People are just mad about that one comment.
Coach Anderson is a defendant in the lawsuit. It doesn't allege that he is an abuser, of course. Nobody is saying that. https://dockets.justia.com/docket/utah/ ... 146/135450


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Re: Liberty job just opened up

Post by AggieGrad2021 » November 28th, 2022, 6:50 pm

Blake was offered the Colorado State job. He turned it down because we have him his new contract. If he’s offered Liberty I wouldn’t be shocked at all if he takes it.



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Post by brownjeans » November 28th, 2022, 8:35 pm

Anderson would be a great fit for Liberty



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Post by garyismyhomeboy » November 28th, 2022, 8:39 pm

BA is good as gone if given the opportunity in the next year. New president always hires a new AD (outside hire). New AD will bring in their staff and their coaches.

From all indications AD staff will all be new. House will cleaned.



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Post by Imakeitrain » November 28th, 2022, 9:10 pm

I get the feeling that Liberty is going to go with Chizik, Orgeron or Muschamp or something like that..

Although I think they could consider Blake I don't think they are going to do so. They are very much trying to buy their way into being prosperity gospel Notre Dame. My nephew went there, my niece goes there...

They may look local to Curt Cignetti-(who I advocated for to come here in the search that landed Blake)...

Liberty is a school that bans alcohol but JF jr has photos of himself drinking "black water" with the buttons of pants undone holding a woman who isn't his wife- while his wife is spending time with the pool boy.

The perfect fit for Liberty would be Urban Meyer and maybe one or two other coaches under that tree we are acquainted with.



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Re: Liberty job just opened up

Post by Sl7vk » November 28th, 2022, 9:17 pm

Liberty is a fake University.
It’s a Diploma mill.
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Post by MWCFAN12 » November 28th, 2022, 9:19 pm

Liberty will hire Dan Mullen or Tom Herman
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Post by ineptimusprime » November 28th, 2022, 9:23 pm

I could see Blake being interested in Liberty, but have a tougher time seeing Liberty interested in Blake. They can pull a bigger name with the money they can offer.

I’d prefer that Blake stays, but I wouldn’t shed tears if Blake thought the opportunity was a better fit and bailed at this point — mostly given the off the field stuff.
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Post by The Old Bull » November 29th, 2022, 1:05 pm

I think that Liberty is a good fit for Blake and that Blake is a good fit for liberty. That being said I hope they go a different direction and he stays.

A search for a new president, athletic director and head football coach simultaneously sounds like a worst case scenario disaster so it will probably happen.

Then we end up hiring back Rance Pugmire as AD, who in turn hires Dave Arslanian to replace Anderson. Arslanian decides to bring back the Power Punt but instead of the surprise punt on 3rd down he decides to follow the advice of the color analyst from out last game and "punt of 1st down to try and get something going on offence"

On the bright side coach Arslainan comes with an easy and appropriate nickname. ...Arse
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Re: Liberty job just opened up

Post by ViAggie » November 29th, 2022, 1:19 pm

Sl7vk wrote:
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Liberty is a fake University.
It’s a Diploma mill.
They aren't the only ones, Grand Canyon U is right up there. If you want to go to college but have bad SAT scores and bad grades, these are your places. But their dismal graduation rates should tell you something... they don't care. And as an athlete that would worry me for sure.


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Post by Imakeitrain » November 29th, 2022, 1:29 pm

On-campus vs online are 2 different things.
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Post by FloridaAggie13 » November 29th, 2022, 1:32 pm

Sl7vk wrote:
November 28th, 2022, 9:17 pm
Liberty is a fake University.
It’s a Diploma mill.
Liberty has a far lower acceptance rate than, say, Utah State (50.1% vs 91%), with similar median SAT and ACT scores among accepted students. Liberty also has regional accreditation which is seen as more prestigious than national accreditation and thus, is well respected by graduate schools.

Liberty has a 29% graduation rate vs a 50% rate at USU, so it is certainly not a diploma mill.



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Post by Hoot » November 29th, 2022, 1:51 pm

ViAggie wrote:
November 29th, 2022, 1:19 pm
Sl7vk wrote:
November 28th, 2022, 9:17 pm
Liberty is a fake University.
It’s a Diploma mill.
They aren't the only ones, Grand Canyon U is right up there. If you want to go to college but have bad SAT scores and bad grades, these are your places. But their dismal graduation rates should tell you something... they don't care. And as an athlete that would worry me for sure.
I believe Weber functions in a similar manner regarding academic standards. Not sure if it’s changed since I was in HS.


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Post by Hoot » November 29th, 2022, 1:51 pm

Sl7vk wrote:
November 28th, 2022, 9:17 pm
Liberty is a fake University.
It’s a Diploma mill.
Bishop Sycamore U?


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November 29th, 2022, 1:05 pm
I think that Liberty is a good fit for Blake and that Blake is a good fit for liberty. That being said I hope they go a different direction and he stays.

A search for a new president, athletic director and head football coach simultaneously sounds like a worst case scenario disaster so it will probably happen.

Then we end up hiring back Rance Pugmire as AD, who in turn hires Dave Arslanian to replace Anderson. Arslanian decides to bring back the Power Punt but instead of the surprise punt on 3rd down he decides to follow the advice of the color analyst from out last game and "punt of 1st down to try and get something going on offence"

On the bright side coach Arslainan comes with an easy and appropriate nickname. ...Arse
Dave Arslanian replaced John L. Smith.



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Post by ViAggie » November 29th, 2022, 2:19 pm

FloridaAggie13 wrote:
November 29th, 2022, 1:32 pm
Sl7vk wrote:
November 28th, 2022, 9:17 pm
Liberty is a fake University.
It’s a Diploma mill.
Liberty has a far lower acceptance rate than, say, Utah State (50.1% vs 91%), with similar median SAT and ACT scores among accepted students. Liberty also has regional accreditation which is seen as more prestigious than national accreditation and thus, is well respected by graduate schools.

Liberty has a 29% graduation rate vs a 50% rate at USU, so it is certainly not a diploma mill.
1. Their acceptance rate is a bit misleading, they have a student population of 110K, they get a lot of applications because they are a first come/apply first serve rolling application review. They aren't necessarily taking the best and brightest applicants and turning others away.

2. 29% graduation rate is not good at all. That's the problem with many of these so-called religious private schools that claim they are not for profit, how much did they have to pay JF Jr. to go away again? Yea it's not a diploma mill but their aren't retaining that many as they move through their system, you have to wonder why that is?

3. Look at their national ranking, it's near the bottom.


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Post by FloridaAggie13 » November 29th, 2022, 3:37 pm

ViAggie wrote:
November 29th, 2022, 2:19 pm
FloridaAggie13 wrote:
November 29th, 2022, 1:32 pm
Sl7vk wrote:
November 28th, 2022, 9:17 pm
Liberty is a fake University.
It’s a Diploma mill.
Liberty has a far lower acceptance rate than, say, Utah State (50.1% vs 91%), with similar median SAT and ACT scores among accepted students. Liberty also has regional accreditation which is seen as more prestigious than national accreditation and thus, is well respected by graduate schools.

Liberty has a 29% graduation rate vs a 50% rate at USU, so it is certainly not a diploma mill.
1. Their acceptance rate is a bit misleading, they have a student population of 110K, they get a lot of applications because they are a first come/apply first serve rolling application review. They aren't necessarily taking the best and brightest applicants and turning others away.

2. 29% graduation rate is not good at all. That's the problem with many of these so-called religious private schools that claim they are not for profit, how much did they have to pay JF Jr. to go away again? Yea it's not a diploma mill but their aren't retaining that many as they move through their system, you have to wonder why that is?

3. Look at their national ranking, it's near the bottom.
Their SAT and ACT score averages are exactly in-line with USU's. If they aren't taking the best and brightest then neither is USU.

Liberty's graduation rate as of 2020 was over 50% but I've also seen the 29%. Considering the ratio of part time to full time students is far higher than with other doctoral institutions, I would assume a lower graduation rate. I imagine this is due to their heavy online presence catering to people going to school while juggling a family and full-time work.

You say Jerry Falwell Jr. and someone else will say Torrey Green. Falwell wasn't a serial rapist being covered up by the university because he could run fast and tackle really well.

See how that works?



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Post by QuackAttackAggie » November 29th, 2022, 3:55 pm

A ton of Jamaican visa applicants went to Liberty when i was there, and they were barely scraping by a very bad Jamaican education system (85% of Jamaicans are "literate" but Jamaica defines literate as "has gone to school at least one day in their life").

I have as low an opinion on Liberty as any of those TV universities in the United States, mostly due to the leadership. A private school having the same median SAT/GPA scores as a public university that accepts everybody? That's not exactly a bragging point.



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Post by The Old Bull » November 29th, 2022, 4:08 pm

NavyBlue wrote:
November 29th, 2022, 2:15 pm
The Old Bull wrote:
November 29th, 2022, 1:05 pm
I think that Liberty is a good fit for Blake and that Blake is a good fit for liberty. That being said I hope they go a different direction and he stays.

A search for a new president, athletic director and head football coach simultaneously sounds like a worst case scenario disaster so it will probably happen.

Then we end up hiring back Rance Pugmire as AD, who in turn hires Dave Arslanian to replace Anderson. Arslanian decides to bring back the Power Punt but instead of the surprise punt on 3rd down he decides to follow the advice of the color analyst from out last game and "punt of 1st down to try and get something going on offence"

On the bright side coach Arslainan comes with an easy and appropriate nickname. ...Arse
Dave Arslanian replaced John L. Smith.
Rod Tueller replaced Dave Kragthorpe :thanks:



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Post by USU78 » November 29th, 2022, 4:13 pm

FloridaAggie13 wrote:
November 29th, 2022, 3:37 pm
ViAggie wrote:
November 29th, 2022, 2:19 pm
FloridaAggie13 wrote:
November 29th, 2022, 1:32 pm
Sl7vk wrote:
November 28th, 2022, 9:17 pm
Liberty is a fake University.
It’s a Diploma mill.
Liberty has a far lower acceptance rate than, say, Utah State (50.1% vs 91%), with similar median SAT and ACT scores among accepted students. Liberty also has regional accreditation which is seen as more prestigious than national accreditation and thus, is well respected by graduate schools.

Liberty has a 29% graduation rate vs a 50% rate at USU, so it is certainly not a diploma mill.
1. Their acceptance rate is a bit misleading, they have a student population of 110K, they get a lot of applications because they are a first come/apply first serve rolling application review. They aren't necessarily taking the best and brightest applicants and turning others away.

2. 29% graduation rate is not good at all. That's the problem with many of these so-called religious private schools that claim they are not for profit, how much did they have to pay JF Jr. to go away again? Yea it's not a diploma mill but their aren't retaining that many as they move through their system, you have to wonder why that is?

3. Look at their national ranking, it's near the bottom.
Their SAT and ACT score averages are exactly in-line with USU's. If they aren't taking the best and brightest then neither is USU.

Liberty's graduation rate as of 2020 was over 50% but I've also seen the 29%. Considering the ratio of part time to full time students is far higher than with other doctoral institutions, I would assume a lower graduation rate. I imagine this is due to their heavy online presence catering to people going to school while juggling a family and full-time work.

You say Jerry Falwell Jr. and someone else will say Torrey Green. Falwell wasn't a serial rapist being covered up by the university because he could run fast and tackle really well.

See how that works?
Green weren't grabbing waitresses @rses on Sunday afternoons in Lynchburg like the Falwell boys ... so there's that in his favor. 😈 :stirpot: 😈
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