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Matt Wells biography from Tulsa World
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Matt Wells biography from Tulsa World
https://tulsaworld.com/sports/college/o ... sa_World#7
Fired a week before the game with his current employer.
Fired a week before the game with his current employer.
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Re: Matt Wells biography from Tulsa World
Matt Wells made his money blah blah blah.
Huge mistake leaving the best gig he ever had in Logan.
This is a cautionary tale.
Huge mistake leaving the best gig he ever had in Logan.
This is a cautionary tale.
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Re: Matt Wells biography from Tulsa World
I am not the smartest but I think he still the analyst. Did you read the article?
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Re: Matt Wells biography from Tulsa World
I thought the suggestion was that last year, he was fired from tt in the week prior to playing ou
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Re: Matt Wells biography from Tulsa World
I was keeping a lookout for him when the OU games were on. I thought he’d be in the booth, but I think I saw him a couple of times on the sidelines.
It’s not a bad gig to be an assistant at a school like ou. Especially as they move to the sec (but he may move by then)
It’s not a bad gig to be an assistant at a school like ou. Especially as they move to the sec (but he may move by then)
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Re: Matt Wells biography from Tulsa World
LOL
Uh hu... dump truck load of money vs... yea, what we were paying him... LOL
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Re: Matt Wells biography from Tulsa World
You said it, not me.
And yes he was fired from Texas Tech with 5-3 record a week before they played Oklahoma, his current employer where he is an offensive analyst.
Everything I stated pretty lines up with that assessment and original observation, however meaningless it was.
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Re: Matt Wells biography from Tulsa World
ThanksNowhereLandAggie wrote: ↑October 27th, 2022, 5:28 amYou said it, not me.
And yes he was fired from Texas Tech with 5-3 record a week before they played Oklahoma, his current employer where he is an offensive analyst.
Everything I stated pretty lines up with that assessment and original observation, however meaningless it was.
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Re: Matt Wells biography from Tulsa World
A smaller dumb truck load of money.
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Re: Matt Wells biography from Tulsa World
Yeah, wells was making close to a million a year and would have gotten more. His TT contract was way more lucrative, but money ain't everything. Once you're making a million a year, making 4 doesn't make you happier.
And this whole generational wealth thing cracks me up. More often than not, generational wealth yields more problems than solutions.
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Re: Matt Wells biography from Tulsa World
You are making the assumption that his job in Logan was secure. Don't forget that we all wanted him fired in 2016 (and he probably would have been fired if we had the cash to do it.Sl7vk wrote: ↑October 27th, 2022, 1:58 pmYeah, wells was making close to a million a year and would have gotten more. His TT contract was way more lucrative, but money ain't everything. Once you're making a million a year, making 4 doesn't make you happier.
And this whole generational wealth thing cracks me up. More often than not, generational wealth yields more problems than solutions.
Don't think for a second that he would not have been fired by USU after having a few bad years after Jordan Love and Coach Yost left him.
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Re: Matt Wells biography from Tulsa World
True. All this assumes that Wells is not a very good coach and that he would have been fired in Logan eventually.LarryTheAggie wrote: ↑October 27th, 2022, 2:06 pmYou are making the assumption that his job in Logan was secure. Don't forget that we all wanted him fired in 2016 (and he probably would have been fired if we had the cash to do it.Sl7vk wrote: ↑October 27th, 2022, 1:58 pmYeah, wells was making close to a million a year and would have gotten more. His TT contract was way more lucrative, but money ain't everything. Once you're making a million a year, making 4 doesn't make you happier.
And this whole generational wealth thing cracks me up. More often than not, generational wealth yields more problems than solutions.
Don't think for a second that he would not have been fired by USU after having a few bad years after Jordan Love and Coach Yost left him.
If the assumption is that he stunk, then he really did make the best move by selling high.
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Re: Matt Wells biography from Tulsa World
It cracks me up when people (in cases of all coaches, not just specifically Matt Wells) make assumptions about what is best for them personally and whether or not they made the "right" decision.
If his number one goal in life is continuing to climb up the coaching ladder and becoming one of the nation's premiere coaches, sure, Texas Tech was probably not the best career move. If securing the bag and guaranteeing that he and his children will never have to worry about money again is his top priority, well, he did that. But there are a million other factors that go into these kinds of things, so I just think it's silly to call his situation a "cautionary tale" like we know absolutely anything at all.
Besides that, as Larry pointed out, it's not like Matt could have likely stayed at USU and settled down for the next 20 years even if that's what he wanted to do. Just two years before his 11-2 season Aggie fans were nearly universally calling for his job.
If his number one goal in life is continuing to climb up the coaching ladder and becoming one of the nation's premiere coaches, sure, Texas Tech was probably not the best career move. If securing the bag and guaranteeing that he and his children will never have to worry about money again is his top priority, well, he did that. But there are a million other factors that go into these kinds of things, so I just think it's silly to call his situation a "cautionary tale" like we know absolutely anything at all.
Besides that, as Larry pointed out, it's not like Matt could have likely stayed at USU and settled down for the next 20 years even if that's what he wanted to do. Just two years before his 11-2 season Aggie fans were nearly universally calling for his job.
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Re: Matt Wells biography from Tulsa World
This. There are very few coaches that don't end up fired eventually if they stay where they are. There are the rare Stew type exceptions but Wells never gained that kind of immunity. Not even close. His AD had given an ultimatum just two years before to stop calling plays and chose his OC for him.Sl7vk wrote: ↑October 27th, 2022, 2:11 pmTrue. All this assumes that Wells is not a very good coach and that he would have been fired in Logan eventually.LarryTheAggie wrote: ↑October 27th, 2022, 2:06 pmYou are making the assumption that his job in Logan was secure. Don't forget that we all wanted him fired in 2016 (and he probably would have been fired if we had the cash to do it.Sl7vk wrote: ↑October 27th, 2022, 1:58 pmYeah, wells was making close to a million a year and would have gotten more. His TT contract was way more lucrative, but money ain't everything. Once you're making a million a year, making 4 doesn't make you happier.
And this whole generational wealth thing cracks me up. More often than not, generational wealth yields more problems than solutions.
Don't think for a second that he would not have been fired by USU after having a few bad years after Jordan Love and Coach Yost left him.
If the assumption is that he stunk, then he really did make the best move by selling high.
Coaches are not doing themselves or their family any favors in the vast majority of these situations not taking the money and running. Especially in cases like Wells where he knew he had hit lightning in a bottle.
GA might be the exception to this but then again he had one great season and a barely winning season with a team loaded with talent when he took the job at Wisky and he was honestly probably being carried by Chuckie and Dave.
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Re: Matt Wells biography from Tulsa World
The other thing to consider is that he is not a local guy.stang wrote: ↑October 27th, 2022, 2:24 pmIt cracks me up when people (in cases of all coaches, not just specifically Matt Wells) make assumptions about what is best for them personally and whether or not they made the "right" decision.
If his number one goal in life is continuing to climb up the coaching ladder and becoming one of the nation's premiere coaches, sure, Texas Tech was probably not the best career move. If securing the bag and guaranteeing that he and his children will never have to worry about money again is his top priority, well, he did that. But there are a million other factors that go into these kinds of things, so I just think it's silly to call his situation a "cautionary tale" like we know absolutely anything at all.
Besides that, as Larry pointed out, it's not like Matt could have likely stayed at USU and settled down for the next 20 years even if that's what he wanted to do. Just two years before his 11-2 season Aggie fans were nearly universally calling for his job.
He mentioned in the article that it was good to be back near his mother again in Oklahoma. Granted Lubbock is a little further, but he sounds like he wanted to get back closer to home.
All of those things can factor into a decision. He had been in Maryland, New Mexico, Louisville, and Logan in his coaching career. Family ties can play a big role in all of this.
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Re: Matt Wells biography from Tulsa World
Sometimes I look out the window of my office and see a garbage truck driver working on emptying a dumpster and I think, I could do that.
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Re: Matt Wells biography from Tulsa World
I don't think this assumes that Wells was a bad coach. Sometimes success or failure as a coach has as much to do with luck as it does coaching ability, particularly at the G5 level. A coach can do everything right and still have a season derailed by a couple critical injuries or blown plays (or blown calls) in critical games. Wells probably realized that he could just as easily be unemployed after a couple unlucky seasons at USU as he could at Texas Tech. I can't blame him for wanting to have as much money in the bank as possible in case his luck turned south.Sl7vk wrote: ↑October 27th, 2022, 2:11 pmTrue. All this assumes that Wells is not a very good coach and that he would have been fired in Logan eventually.LarryTheAggie wrote: ↑October 27th, 2022, 2:06 pmYou are making the assumption that his job in Logan was secure. Don't forget that we all wanted him fired in 2016 (and he probably would have been fired if we had the cash to do it.Sl7vk wrote: ↑October 27th, 2022, 1:58 pmYeah, wells was making close to a million a year and would have gotten more. His TT contract was way more lucrative, but money ain't everything. Once you're making a million a year, making 4 doesn't make you happier.
And this whole generational wealth thing cracks me up. More often than not, generational wealth yields more problems than solutions.
Don't think for a second that he would not have been fired by USU after having a few bad years after Jordan Love and Coach Yost left him.
If the assumption is that he stunk, then he really did make the best move by selling high.
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And how much simpler life would be.WannabeAgAlum wrote: ↑October 28th, 2022, 10:55 amSometimes I look out the window of my office and see a garbage truck driver working on emptying a dumpster and I think, I could do that.
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Re: Matt Wells biography from Tulsa World
I would very much like to experience these problems and see if I have it in me to overcome them. Test of fortitude as it were.Sl7vk wrote: ↑October 27th, 2022, 1:58 pmYeah, wells was making close to a million a year and would have gotten more. His TT contract was way more lucrative, but money ain't everything. Once you're making a million a year, making 4 doesn't make you happier.
And this whole generational wealth thing cracks me up. More often than not, generational wealth yields more problems than solutions.
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Re: Matt Wells biography from Tulsa World
And Wells and OU lose. 6-6 on the year. Worst year in how many for the Sooners?
TT looks way better post Wells.
TT looks way better post Wells.
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Re: Matt Wells biography from Tulsa World
What is an analyst in this context and are they compensated well?
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Re: Matt Wells biography from Tulsa World
I think some commenters here are a bit off in their math.
Well had increased from about $850K to $1M over his time at USU. Let's assume he ended up going up another $150K over the time he was at TTU (had he stayed at USU). That means the total over the TTU contract duration would have been about $1.15M x 6 years = $6.9M.
His TTU contract was $18.8M over 6 years.
Both of those are almost unfathomable numbers, and both are money that most of us would say he never needs to work again if he chose to, but let's not downplay the difference an extra $12M makes when he is still only 49 years old and in a cutthroat industry. The first amount lets him maintain his lifestyle and not work for several years. The latter allows him to be very picky about when and where he takes another job.
Well had increased from about $850K to $1M over his time at USU. Let's assume he ended up going up another $150K over the time he was at TTU (had he stayed at USU). That means the total over the TTU contract duration would have been about $1.15M x 6 years = $6.9M.
His TTU contract was $18.8M over 6 years.
Both of those are almost unfathomable numbers, and both are money that most of us would say he never needs to work again if he chose to, but let's not downplay the difference an extra $12M makes when he is still only 49 years old and in a cutthroat industry. The first amount lets him maintain his lifestyle and not work for several years. The latter allows him to be very picky about when and where he takes another job.
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Re: Matt Wells biography from Tulsa World
You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villan.
There are very few coaches that don't end up fired eventually if they stay where they are. There are the rare Stew type exceptions but Wells never gained that kind of immunity. Not even close. His AD had given an ultimatum just two years before to stop calling plays and chose his OC for him.
If you recall the students were calling for STU to be fired also. Lifetime coaching winners who retire as heroes are very rare.
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Re: Matt Wells biography from Tulsa World
When is the last time a head coach at USU left Logan for the same position at another school and improved the situation for the team they were going to?
Presumptuous and ill-informed.
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Re: Matt Wells biography from Tulsa World
You could make a case that John L. Smith made Louisville better with him than they were before him.