Wyoming is the most important game of the season

YoungBloodAggie · Post by **YoungBloodAggie** » October 16th, 2022, 9:24 pm

As I look at our schedule going forward, it’s hard to ignore that Wyoming represents a major inflection point.

Lose and we are 3-5 with games against Boise and a feisty SJSU team that could see us stay home during a bowl season where we could really use the extra game to maintain momentum forward.

Win and we are (perhaps miraculously) back to .500 and still have a real chance at the division title (especially if AFA can beat Boise). We are also looking at games against Hawaii, UNM, and that SJSU team to secure a bowl and a nice season even if we don’t end up beating Boise.

Air Force wasn’t as much a “game of the season” because at the time it didn’t seem like it could mean so much. Any game after this (with the exception of heading into Boise with the division on the line) won’t have that combination of a tight expected margin AND the major consequences of either a win or loss.

Throw in the rivalry aspect, the QB swap, and the whooping we took last year…and this game has it all.

flying_scotsman2.0 · Post by **flying_scotsman2.0** » October 16th, 2022, 10:23 pm

I just don't feel good about this game. I think Peasley is going to have a monster game. I think Davenport will still be too new to the system and playbook (although I think he will be great in a year or two), and I just have some PTSD from this game last year. It was the only home game I made it to, despite having season tickets. Wyoming to me is the FBS version of Weber State. Strong, fundamental football with a stingy defense. Hopefully we are up to the task, but I would not bet on us to win this game.

CaptainChaos · Post by **CaptainChaos** » October 17th, 2022, 7:54 am

You gotta think Williams wants to do everything he can to play in this game. We'll see.

Post by **aggies22** » October 17th, 2022, 8:42 am

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October 17th, 2022, 7:54 am
You gotta think Williams wants to do everything he can to play in this game. We'll see.

It can't be to the detriment of the team. We've played that game already this season and lost big time. A 100% Bishop Davenport is going to be better than 75% or less Levi Williams.

LarryTheAggie · Post by **LarryTheAggie** » October 17th, 2022, 8:54 am

aggies22 wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2022, 8:42 am

CaptainChaos wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2022, 7:54 am
You gotta think Williams wants to do everything he can to play in this game. We'll see.
It can't be to the detriment of the team. We've played that game already this season and lost big time. A 100% Bishop Davenport is going to be better than 75% or less Levi Williams.

To be honest, I don't think Williams showed anything on Saturday to make me sure that a 100% Williams is better than a 100% Davenport. Esspecially, after Davenport has a week to prepare.

I mean Williams might be better, but they seemed pretty even to me.

FloridaAggie13 · Post by **FloridaAggie13** » October 17th, 2022, 9:17 am

I just don't see how we are able to win on Saturday if we can only run about 20% of the playbook. With William's ankle injury, the offense would be the same as it was the first four games and it already has shown we don't have the talent at WR to rely on throwing the ball 40 times. It will have to be Davenport and a small sliver of the offensive playbook.

YoungBloodAggie · Post by **YoungBloodAggie** » October 17th, 2022, 9:22 am

Is Legas officially out?

OrangeCountyAggie · Post by **OrangeCountyAggie** » October 17th, 2022, 9:30 am

FloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2022, 9:17 am
I just don't see how we are able to win on Saturday if we can only run about 20% of the playbook. With William's ankle injury, the offense would be the same as it was the first four games and it already has shown we don't have the talent at WR to rely on throwing the ball 40 times. It will have to be Davenport and a small sliver of the offensive playbook.

Such a Debbie Downer! You can still win running 20% of the playbook. It's all about execution and attacking what the defense gives you. Also our own D needs to step up.

AgMac · Post by **AgMac** » October 17th, 2022, 9:31 am

YoungBloodAggie wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2022, 9:22 am
Is Legas officially out?

I don't think we'll hear anything definitive until gameday. But in the current climate, I don't think there is any chance a player at any level plays the week after a concussion.

Roy McAvoy · Post by **Roy McAvoy** » October 17th, 2022, 9:36 am

I have to think Legas won’t play this week, nor should he play.

We have a bye week next week too. He should get 3 weeks of rest. He took 2 nasty hits to the head. Both were plays he was attempting to slide too.

One was the very first play of the game, and the next one was the play he went out on when he was sliding and got hit, causing his head to bounce off the turf.

Post by **aggies22** » October 17th, 2022, 9:38 am

LarryTheAggie wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2022, 8:54 am

aggies22 wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2022, 8:42 am

CaptainChaos wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2022, 7:54 am
You gotta think Williams wants to do everything he can to play in this game. We'll see.
It can't be to the detriment of the team. We've played that game already this season and lost big time. A 100% Bishop Davenport is going to be better than 75% or less Levi Williams.
To be honest, I don't think Williams showed anything on Saturday to make me sure that a 100% Williams is better than a 100% Davenport. Esspecially, after Davenport has a week to prepare.

I mean Williams might be better, but they seemed pretty even to me.

You said it but I don't disagree.

Post by **aggies22** » October 17th, 2022, 9:39 am

Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2022, 9:36 am
I have to think Legas won’t play this week, nor should he play.

We have a bye week next week too. He should get 3 weeks of rest. He took 2 nasty hits to the head. Both were plays he was attempting to slide too.

One was the very first play of the game, and the next one was the play he went out on when he was sliding and got hit, causing his head to bounce off the turf.

Yet, no flags........seems like everybody's QB is protected but ours.

FloridaAggie13 · Post by **FloridaAggie13** » October 17th, 2022, 9:40 am

OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2022, 9:30 am

FloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2022, 9:17 am
I just don't see how we are able to win on Saturday if we can only run about 20% of the playbook. With William's ankle injury, the offense would be the same as it was the first four games and it already has shown we don't have the talent at WR to rely on throwing the ball 40 times. It will have to be Davenport and a small sliver of the offensive playbook.
Such a Debbie Downer! You can still win running 20% of the playbook. It's all about execution and attacking what the defense give you. Also our own D needs to step up.

We saw what happened when we could only run a portion of the playbook the first month of the season. Their defense will give us the pass, forcing an inexperienced freshman to beat them with his arm; just as we did to CSU's inexperienced freshman last week.

I will happy to be proven wrong.

Section_L_Aggie · Post by **Section_L_Aggie** » October 17th, 2022, 9:43 am

aggies22 wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2022, 9:39 am

Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2022, 9:36 am
I have to think Legas won’t play this week, nor should he play.

We have a bye week next week too. He should get 3 weeks of rest. He took 2 nasty hits to the head. Both were plays he was attempting to slide too.

One was the very first play of the game, and the next one was the play he went out on when he was sliding and got hit, causing his head to bounce off the turf.
Yet, no flags........seems like everybody's QB is protected but ours.

Agreed 22! I couldn't believe the zebras just let those go. But at that same time I've come to expect it. Officials are just awful at their jobs, thankless though the job is.

Post by **aggies22** » October 17th, 2022, 9:44 am

FloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2022, 9:40 am

OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2022, 9:30 am

FloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2022, 9:17 am
I just don't see how we are able to win on Saturday if we can only run about 20% of the playbook. With William's ankle injury, the offense would be the same as it was the first four games and it already has shown we don't have the talent at WR to rely on throwing the ball 40 times. It will have to be Davenport and a small sliver of the offensive playbook.
Such a Debbie Downer! You can still win running 20% of the playbook. It's all about execution and attacking what the defense give you. Also our own D needs to step up.
We saw what happened when we could only run a portion of the playbook the first month of the season. Their defense will give us the pass, forcing an inexperienced freshman to beat them with his arm; just as we did to CSU's inexperienced freshman last week.

I will happy to be proven wrong.

If they give Bishop the pass, he'll make them pay. Big time.

FloridaAggie13 · Post by **FloridaAggie13** » October 17th, 2022, 9:45 am

aggies22 wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2022, 9:44 am

FloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2022, 9:40 am

OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2022, 9:30 am

FloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2022, 9:17 am
I just don't see how we are able to win on Saturday if we can only run about 20% of the playbook. With William's ankle injury, the offense would be the same as it was the first four games and it already has shown we don't have the talent at WR to rely on throwing the ball 40 times. It will have to be Davenport and a small sliver of the offensive playbook.
Such a Debbie Downer! You can still win running 20% of the playbook. It's all about execution and attacking what the defense give you. Also our own D needs to step up.
We saw what happened when we could only run a portion of the playbook the first month of the season. Their defense will give us the pass, forcing an inexperienced freshman to beat them with his arm; just as we did to CSU's inexperienced freshman last week.

I will happy to be proven wrong.
If they give Bishop the pass, he'll make them pay. Big time.

I hope so.

YoungBloodAggie · Post by **YoungBloodAggie** » October 17th, 2022, 9:47 am

AgMac wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2022, 9:31 am

YoungBloodAggie wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2022, 9:22 am
Is Legas officially out?
I don't think we'll hear anything definitive until gameday. But in the current climate, I don't think there is any chance a player at any level plays the week after a concussion.

Did Legas have a confirmed concussion?

Post by **aggies22** » October 17th, 2022, 9:47 am

FloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2022, 9:45 am

aggies22 wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2022, 9:44 am

FloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2022, 9:40 am

OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2022, 9:30 am

FloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2022, 9:17 am
I just don't see how we are able to win on Saturday if we can only run about 20% of the playbook. With William's ankle injury, the offense would be the same as it was the first four games and it already has shown we don't have the talent at WR to rely on throwing the ball 40 times. It will have to be Davenport and a small sliver of the offensive playbook.
Such a Debbie Downer! You can still win running 20% of the playbook. It's all about execution and attacking what the defense give you. Also our own D needs to step up.
We saw what happened when we could only run a portion of the playbook the first month of the season. Their defense will give us the pass, forcing an inexperienced freshman to beat them with his arm; just as we did to CSU's inexperienced freshman last week.

I will happy to be proven wrong.
If they give Bishop the pass, he'll make them pay. Big time.
I hope so.

Kid has the best arm on the team when you combine strength with accuracy.

FloridaAggie13 · Post by **FloridaAggie13** » October 17th, 2022, 9:49 am

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October 17th, 2022, 9:47 am

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FloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2022, 9:40 am

OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑
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I just don't see how we are able to win on Saturday if we can only run about 20% of the playbook. With William's ankle injury, the offense would be the same as it was the first four games and it already has shown we don't have the talent at WR to rely on throwing the ball 40 times. It will have to be Davenport and a small sliver of the offensive playbook.
Such a Debbie Downer! You can still win running 20% of the playbook. It's all about execution and attacking what the defense give you. Also our own D needs to step up.
We saw what happened when we could only run a portion of the playbook the first month of the season. Their defense will give us the pass, forcing an inexperienced freshman to beat them with his arm; just as we did to CSU's inexperienced freshman last week.

I will happy to be proven wrong.
If they give Bishop the pass, he'll make them pay. Big time.
I hope so.
Kid has the best arm on the team when you combine strength with accuracy.

Is it realistic to think he is going to make the proper read, quickly, going to the right receiver, having only a few days practice with the first team?

AgMac · Post by **AgMac** » October 17th, 2022, 9:51 am

YoungBloodAggie wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2022, 9:47 am

AgMac wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2022, 9:31 am

YoungBloodAggie wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2022, 9:22 am
Is Legas officially out?
I don't think we'll hear anything definitive until gameday. But in the current climate, I don't think there is any chance a player at any level plays the week after a concussion.
Did Legas have a confirmed concussion?

Valid question. I believe it's just the general assumption, but not confirmed. That said, I don't think we'll get a definitive answer on that either.

Post by **aggies22** » October 17th, 2022, 10:02 am

FloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑
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aggies22 wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2022, 9:44 am

FloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2022, 9:40 am

OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑
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FloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑
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I just don't see how we are able to win on Saturday if we can only run about 20% of the playbook. With William's ankle injury, the offense would be the same as it was the first four games and it already has shown we don't have the talent at WR to rely on throwing the ball 40 times. It will have to be Davenport and a small sliver of the offensive playbook.
Such a Debbie Downer! You can still win running 20% of the playbook. It's all about execution and attacking what the defense give you. Also our own D needs to step up.
We saw what happened when we could only run a portion of the playbook the first month of the season. Their defense will give us the pass, forcing an inexperienced freshman to beat them with his arm; just as we did to CSU's inexperienced freshman last week.

I will happy to be proven wrong.
If they give Bishop the pass, he'll make them pay. Big time.
I hope so.
Kid has the best arm on the team when you combine strength with accuracy.
Is it realistic to think he is going to make the proper read, quickly, going to the right receiver, having only a few days practice with the first team?

Perhaps not always BUT he played at a VERY high level at the highest level of Texas high school football.

Post by **Aglicious** » October 17th, 2022, 10:33 am

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FloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑
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I just don't see how we are able to win on Saturday if we can only run about 20% of the playbook. With William's ankle injury, the offense would be the same as it was the first four games and it already has shown we don't have the talent at WR to rely on throwing the ball 40 times. It will have to be Davenport and a small sliver of the offensive playbook.
Such a Debbie Downer! You can still win running 20% of the playbook. It's all about execution and attacking what the defense give you. Also our own D needs to step up.
We saw what happened when we could only run a portion of the playbook the first month of the season. Their defense will give us the pass, forcing an inexperienced freshman to beat them with his arm; just as we did to CSU's inexperienced freshman last week.

I will happy to be proven wrong.
If they give Bishop the pass, he'll make them pay. Big time.
I hope so.
Kid has the best arm on the team when you combine strength with accuracy.

The loudest I got in that game was after watching Davenport's first pass. Ball just jumps off his hand. The velocity he threw with was shocking after watching Legas' more steady and almost floating high-arc deep balls. I didn't expect that from BD's slight frame but I don't get the feeling that arm strength is an issue for him.

FloridaAggie13 · Post by **FloridaAggie13** » October 17th, 2022, 10:49 am

aggies22 wrote: ↑
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aggies22 wrote: ↑
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FloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2022, 9:40 am

OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑
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FloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑
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I just don't see how we are able to win on Saturday if we can only run about 20% of the playbook. With William's ankle injury, the offense would be the same as it was the first four games and it already has shown we don't have the talent at WR to rely on throwing the ball 40 times. It will have to be Davenport and a small sliver of the offensive playbook.
Such a Debbie Downer! You can still win running 20% of the playbook. It's all about execution and attacking what the defense give you. Also our own D needs to step up.
We saw what happened when we could only run a portion of the playbook the first month of the season. Their defense will give us the pass, forcing an inexperienced freshman to beat them with his arm; just as we did to CSU's inexperienced freshman last week.

I will happy to be proven wrong.
If they give Bishop the pass, he'll make them pay. Big time.
I hope so.
Kid has the best arm on the team when you combine strength with accuracy.
Is it realistic to think he is going to make the proper read, quickly, going to the right receiver, having only a few days practice with the first team?
Perhaps not always BUT he played at a VERY high level at the highest level of Texas high school football.

Very good point. Same thing happens here with the players leaving SoFlo and starting as true freshman for P5 teams. My only concern is that he will have limited practice and reps. If our Oline holds up and we are able to run with some effectiveness, it will simplify the coverages and he can pick a guy and let it fly, as Dan Marino used to say.

El Sapo · Post by **El Sapo** » October 17th, 2022, 11:12 am

We have 5 games left. Wyoming is one of them, no more than that.

It IS our the most important game this week. I don't think we beat Wyoming playing how we did v Colorado State. Peasley is going to be highly motivated, and I'd expect Wyoming as a team will follow his lead.

This game is going to be close. I think we will "play up" to the competition. If it comes down to it, let Bishop be Bishop!

NVAggie · Post by **NVAggie** » October 17th, 2022, 11:19 am

Bishop actually hit receivers last Saturday in stride and in the numbers. Williams was hitting guys on the sideline with their helmets off. If throw over McGriff then you are not very accurate. Hopefully Peasley has one of his off games though I doubt that will happen.

cval · Post by **cval** » October 17th, 2022, 11:29 am

1. Bishop looked pretty good with no practice and likely a very limited playbook.
2. Receivers had a hard time catching the ball with more zip on it than they were used to.

Both of these things should improve with a week of practice with the first team.

Should be able to expand the playbook and develop some chemistry.
Receivers get a week to practice catching balls with more zip on them.

I see some room for optimism here.

Elkaggie · Post by **Elkaggie** » October 17th, 2022, 11:30 am

He also made decent reads in the RPO. This is what surprised me the most.

ViAggie · Post by **ViAggie** » October 17th, 2022, 12:01 pm

ESPN is giving us about the same chances to win this game as they did with AFA.

Sl7vk · Post by **Sl7vk** » October 17th, 2022, 12:28 pm

Davenport gave me flashbacks to Jordon Love the second he made his first throw.

Post by **aggies22** » October 17th, 2022, 12:46 pm

Elkaggie wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2022, 11:30 am
He also made decent reads in the RPO. This is what surprised me the most.

He ran an RPO in high school, so he's no stranger to it. You will get different defensive looks but the reads and keys will always be the same.

Aggie84025 · Post by **Aggie84025** » October 17th, 2022, 1:14 pm

AF and WYO absolutely abused the USU defense last year with their run game. Banda made huge improvements to the AF game this year. I think Banda will have a good game plan about stopping the WYO rush defense this year. I expect the defense to be motivated to not let that happen again.

Peasley for sure is going to be motivated to lay it on the Aggies in this game. His scrambling ability really scares me, I hope the defense is ready to go. The WYO defense is really solid and the Aggies will need to have a good game plan to have success. If the Aggies are able to run for 200+ yards like the last 3 games I like the chances of an Aggie win, although that will be a tall task.

Roy McAvoy · Post by **Roy McAvoy** » October 17th, 2022, 1:22 pm

NVAggie wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2022, 11:19 am
Bishop actually hit receivers last Saturday in stride and in the numbers. Williams was hitting guys on the sideline with their helmets off. If throw over McGriff then you are not very accurate. Hopefully Peasley has one of his off games though I doubt that will happen.

That's a great point. Peasley does seem to be a bit more like a streaky outside shooter in basketball than most QB's. He definitely has on & off games that can swing pretty hard to one side or the other. Let's hope we maybe get him on an off day.

Post by **aggies22** » October 17th, 2022, 1:41 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2022, 1:22 pm

NVAggie wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2022, 11:19 am
Bishop actually hit receivers last Saturday in stride and in the numbers. Williams was hitting guys on the sideline with their helmets off. If throw over McGriff then you are not very accurate. Hopefully Peasley has one of his off games though I doubt that will happen.
That's a great point. Peasley does seem to be a bit more like a streaky outside shooter in basketball than most QB's. He definitely has on & off games that can swing pretty hard to one side or the other. Let's hope we maybe get him on an off day.

How about we FORCE him to have an off day?

newhouse9 · Post by **newhouse9** » October 17th, 2022, 2:04 pm

I did not understand in the CSU game why Tucker kept having Davenport throw long sideline routes to McGriff. It may have only been a couple of throws, but why not continue with the shorter passes that were actually effective and keep building the kid's confidence.

Yossarian · Post by **Yossarian** » October 17th, 2022, 2:10 pm

newhouse9 wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2022, 2:04 pm
I did not understand in the CSU game why Tucker kept having Davenport throw long sideline routes to McGriff. It may have only been a couple of throws, but why not continue with the shorter passes that were actually effective and keep building the kid's confidence.

And why not use the tight ends in the passing game? These can be relatively simple throws with mismatches (coverage by LBs, instead of DBs). They are good to give the QB some confidence with simple patterns and shorter throws.

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