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Football in Utah

Post by Chatman » August 17th, 2022, 4:49 pm

I agree with this take:

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Re: Football in Utah

Post by slcagg » August 17th, 2022, 4:52 pm

Uh doesn’t georgia have 4 d1 teams and thus more scholarships? But I get his point.



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Re: Football in Utah

Post by frankiesaysrelax » August 17th, 2022, 6:24 pm

slcagg wrote:
August 17th, 2022, 4:52 pm
Uh doesn’t georgia have 4 d1 teams and thus more scholarships? But I get his point.
He says “most underrated” not “most overrated”
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Re: Football in Utah

Post by Aggie84025 » August 17th, 2022, 6:28 pm

The guy is spot on. High school football in Utah is very good and produces a lot of D1 athletes in football based on its size.
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Re: Football in Utah

Post by slcagg » August 17th, 2022, 8:28 pm

frankiesaysrelax wrote:
August 17th, 2022, 6:24 pm
slcagg wrote:
August 17th, 2022, 4:52 pm
Uh doesn’t georgia have 4 d1 teams and thus more scholarships? But I get his point.
He says “most underrated” not “most overrated”
You are missing my point. He said utah offers more d1 scholarships than the state of Georgia. That isn’t true. Georgia has 4 d1 programs. Utah has 3.

Anyways to your point. UGa does seem to fall short of expectations quite often (granted last year they did not).



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Re: Football in Utah

Post by frankiesaysrelax » August 17th, 2022, 8:35 pm

slcagg wrote:
August 17th, 2022, 8:28 pm
frankiesaysrelax wrote:
August 17th, 2022, 6:24 pm
slcagg wrote:
August 17th, 2022, 4:52 pm
Uh doesn’t georgia have 4 d1 teams and thus more scholarships? But I get his point.
He says “most underrated” not “most overrated”
You are missing my point. He said utah offers more d1 scholarships than the state of Georgia. That isn’t true. Georgia has 4 d1 programs. Utah has 3.

Anyways to your point. UGa does seem to fall short of expectations quite often (granted last year they did not).
I was just messing around. I have no opinion on GA football or any knowledge of that state and their football status.



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Re: Football in Utah

Post by slcagg » August 17th, 2022, 8:38 pm

frankiesaysrelax wrote:
August 17th, 2022, 8:35 pm
slcagg wrote:
August 17th, 2022, 8:28 pm
frankiesaysrelax wrote:
August 17th, 2022, 6:24 pm
slcagg wrote:
August 17th, 2022, 4:52 pm
Uh doesn’t georgia have 4 d1 teams and thus more scholarships? But I get his point.
He says “most underrated” not “most overrated”
You are missing my point. He said utah offers more d1 scholarships than the state of Georgia. That isn’t true. Georgia has 4 d1 programs. Utah has 3.

Anyways to your point. UGa does seem to fall short of expectations quite often (granted last year they did not).
I was just messing around. I have no opinion on GA football or any knowledge of that state and their football status.
So you saying I need to relax. I gotcha now bro.
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Re: Football in Utah

Post by USU78 » August 17th, 2022, 8:57 pm

So ... GA has four FBS programs and two FCS programs

And

Utah has three FBS programs and three FCS programs.

Not all that much of a difference between a single FCS and a single FBS program in terms of Division I scholy numbers.


You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

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Re: Football in Utah

Post by slcagg » August 17th, 2022, 9:05 pm

USU78 wrote:
August 17th, 2022, 8:57 pm
So ... GA has four FBS programs and two FCS programs

And

Utah has three FBS programs and three FCS programs.

Not all that much of a difference between a single FCS and a single FBS program in terms of Division I scholy numbers.
Ok now we are getting technical. So still less and talent quality also less at the fcs level.

However I get the point. I just pointed out the guy was wrong in that one aspect.

I do agree with his overall point.
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Re: Football in Utah

Post by GeoAg » August 18th, 2022, 8:45 am

slcagg wrote:
August 17th, 2022, 8:28 pm
frankiesaysrelax wrote:
August 17th, 2022, 6:24 pm
slcagg wrote:
August 17th, 2022, 4:52 pm
Uh doesn’t georgia have 4 d1 teams and thus more scholarships? But I get his point.
He says “most underrated” not “most overrated”
You are missing my point. He said utah offers more d1 scholarships than the state of Georgia. That isn’t true. Georgia has 4 d1 programs. Utah has 3.

Anyways to your point. UGa does seem to fall short of expectations quite often (granted last year they did not).
I think you missed the per capita part.


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Re: Football in Utah

Post by slcagg » August 18th, 2022, 9:18 am

GeoAg wrote:
August 18th, 2022, 8:45 am
slcagg wrote:
August 17th, 2022, 8:28 pm
frankiesaysrelax wrote:
August 17th, 2022, 6:24 pm
slcagg wrote:
August 17th, 2022, 4:52 pm
Uh doesn’t georgia have 4 d1 teams and thus more scholarships? But I get his point.
He says “most underrated” not “most overrated”
You are missing my point. He said utah offers more d1 scholarships than the state of Georgia. That isn’t true. Georgia has 4 d1 programs. Utah has 3.

Anyways to your point. UGa does seem to fall short of expectations quite often (granted last year they did not).
I think you missed the per capita part.
This is silly we are arguing this.

This guy says the state offers more d1 scholarships than the entire state of Georgia does. He does make the point georgia also has more people. But he says utah offers more d1 scholarships than the state of Georgia. That is not correct.



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Re: Football in Utah

Post by HomeTown » August 18th, 2022, 11:27 am

There are a number of guys going out of state on scholarship. It could be scholarships earned by high school players in Utah and not scholarships offered by Utah schools. Just a thought.
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Re: Football in Utah

Post by Coloraggie » August 19th, 2022, 9:08 am

Hometown said what I thought but it could be worded better. Perhaps the guy meant to say:

"More scholarships are offered to Utah High School kids than to Georgia high school kids"
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Re: Football in Utah

Post by Hoot » August 19th, 2022, 9:13 am

Coloraggie wrote:
August 19th, 2022, 9:08 am
Hometown said what I thought but it could be worded better. Perhaps the guy meant to say:

"More scholarships are offered to Utah High School kids than to Georgia high school kids"
“I couldn’t have said it better myself, but I’ll try”
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Re: Football in Utah

Post by cbingham » August 19th, 2022, 12:53 pm

Not sure that I buy this whole underpenetrated or unappreciated discussion. Yes, the state of Utah has 3 D1 programs that are arguably competitive nationally which is a high number relative to the population. That being said I'm not sure that I buy this idea that the talent level produced within the state is in line with this same argument. I think that U of U is the best point of analysis as they arguably get the first shot at premier in state talent. Of their roster of 115 players they have 37 that hail from Utah (32% of roster) whereas 27 players hail from CA (25% of roster). If you add players from TX you get a total of 37 from CA and TX which equals the sum total from UT. Of course CA has on order of 13 times the overall population but the state also carries 7 FBS programs and then also populates a significant amount of rosters across the western US and across the country.
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Re: Football in Utah

Post by Slim80 » August 19th, 2022, 1:23 pm

Coloraggie wrote:
August 19th, 2022, 9:08 am
Hometown said what I thought but it could be worded better. Perhaps the guy meant to say:

"More scholarships are offered to Utah High School kids than to Georgia high school kids"
There is no way that is accurate. Georgia has a population that is over 3 times what Utah's is.....No way more Utah kids get offered scholarships than Georgia kids. If you put in the "per capita" qualifier then I could start believing that.



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Re: Football in Utah

Post by Coloraggie » August 19th, 2022, 3:28 pm

Hoot wrote:
August 19th, 2022, 9:13 am
Coloraggie wrote:
August 19th, 2022, 9:08 am
Hometown said what I thought but it could be worded better. Perhaps the guy meant to say:

"More scholarships are offered to Utah High School kids than to Georgia high school kids"
“I couldn’t have said it better myself, but I’ll try”
Hoot, I wasn't trying to rephrase what Hometown said. I was trying to take what Hometown said to rephrase what the commentator meant. Sorry for the confusion. But awesome attempt at slamming me.



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Re: Football in Utah

Post by Hoot » August 19th, 2022, 4:49 pm

Coloraggie wrote:
August 19th, 2022, 3:28 pm
Hoot wrote:
August 19th, 2022, 9:13 am
Coloraggie wrote:
August 19th, 2022, 9:08 am
Hometown said what I thought but it could be worded better. Perhaps the guy meant to say:

"More scholarships are offered to Utah High School kids than to Georgia high school kids"
“I couldn’t have said it better myself, but I’ll try”
Hoot, I wasn't trying to rephrase what Hometown said. I was trying to take what Hometown said to rephrase what the commentator meant. Sorry for the confusion. But awesome attempt at slamming me.
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