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Post by aggies22 » May 12th, 2022, 11:22 am

IS DONE!! Good riddance!
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Post by UStateTim » May 12th, 2022, 11:32 am

When they join the Big 12?



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Post by Aggie84025 » May 12th, 2022, 11:33 am

Other than it is a game that generates a lot of interest and is always well attended I have no problem taking a break from the series for a while. Utah did the same thing and now BYU is doing the exact same thing. It was a good game for both teams
very little travel costs, local game, a lot of times on conference weekend etc. This opens up an opportunity to get some home/home agreements with some group of 5 teams.

I would love to do some home/home with the following teams. Memphis, App State, Marshall, UTSA, Louisiana, SMU etc.
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Post by Imakeitrain » May 12th, 2022, 11:34 am

As I’ve said before we don’t need BYU anymore especially if it’s on unfavorable terms. We can sign other P5 programs 1:1 or a 1:1 plus an away money game in more interesting destinations.
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Post by Aggie84025 » May 12th, 2022, 11:34 am

UStateTim wrote:
May 12th, 2022, 11:32 am
When they join the Big 12?
They join in 2023. The game at Provo this September will be the last game that is scheduled. The remaining 4 games on the contract from 2023 to 2026 were cancelled. Apparently there was wording in it they could back out due to conference affiliation.
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Post by ViAggie » May 12th, 2022, 11:41 am

Aggie84025 wrote:
May 12th, 2022, 11:34 am
UStateTim wrote:
May 12th, 2022, 11:32 am
When they join the Big 12?
They join in 2023. The game at Provo this September will be the last game that is scheduled. The remaining 4 games on the contract from 2023 to 2026 were cancelled. Apparently there was wording in it they could back out due to conference affiliation.
Color me surprised! Not
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Post by Tetonkatest » May 12th, 2022, 11:45 am

Looks like they are dumping a lot of games so they can fit in their Big12 schedule.
I think there will be future games schedules between USU and BYU. But who knows how often?


USU future football schedules

https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/utah-state/

BYU future football schedules

https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/byu/



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Post by Aggie84025 » May 12th, 2022, 11:48 am

Tetonkatest wrote:
May 12th, 2022, 11:45 am
Looks like they are dumping a lot of games so they can fit in their Big12 schedule.
I think there will be future games schedules between USU and BYU. But who knows how often?


USU future football schedules

https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/utah-state/

BYU future football schedules

https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/byu/
The only concern in the near future is who will Hartwell schedule for a home game in 2023 since that was BYU home year. I hope he is able to get a decent team under contract for a home/home.
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Post by LarryTheAggie » May 12th, 2022, 11:49 am

Well looks like we will just have to beat the crap out of them this year so we can keep the Wagon Wheel for the "foreseeable future." Then never schedule them again.
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Post by BleedAggieBlue0 » May 12th, 2022, 11:55 am

I’ll miss playing them, just like the Utes. Hate both schools and their fan bases. No reason to pretend like we don’t enjoy in-state rivalry games. Stupid to see what their athletic directors have done to ruin these rivalries.

There’s a talent discrepancy with us and the Utes, but nothing close to other states P5s vs G5s.


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Post by Tetonkatest » May 12th, 2022, 11:56 am

Aggie84025 wrote:
May 12th, 2022, 11:48 am
Tetonkatest wrote:
May 12th, 2022, 11:45 am
Looks like they are dumping a lot of games so they can fit in their Big12 schedule.
I think there will be future games schedules between USU and BYU. But who knows how often?


USU future football schedules

https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/utah-state/

BYU future football schedules

https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/byu/
The only concern in the near future is who will Hartwell schedule for a home game in 2023 since that was BYU home year. I hope he is able to get a decent team under contract for a home/home.
Good point. Hopefully we schedule a P5 team
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Post by Tetonkatest » May 12th, 2022, 11:58 am

BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
May 12th, 2022, 11:55 am
I’ll miss playing them, just like the Utes. Hate both schools and their fan bases. No reason to pretend like we don’t enjoy in-state rivalry games. Stupid to see what their athletic directors have done to ruin these rivalries.

There’s a talent discrepancy with us and the Utes, but nothing close to other states P5s vs G5s.


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With regard to scheduling I give BYU more of a pass, as they have to shed a lot of scheduled games in order to fit their Big12 schedule. But they usually schedule USU in basketball and football.

Utah only cancelled playing USU after they lost in football and basketball. They have refused to ever play a game in Logan ever again.



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Post by SwaggieAggie » May 12th, 2022, 12:06 pm

I’m honestly really bummed out. Was bummed out when Utah left the schedule too. Maybe some of you disagree, but I enjoy playing teams that I hate. Rivalries is what makes college sports so unique.

And with that, who are we possibly going to add to our home non-conference schedule that would draw close to the amount attention as BYU coming to town? We gonna get NMSU or UConn instead now as a replacement or something? With the rare exceptions of Washington State (which got cancelled) and then Oregon in 2026 or something, we don’t get good non-conference home games.
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Post by LarryTheAggie » May 12th, 2022, 12:21 pm

Aggie84025 wrote:
May 12th, 2022, 11:48 am
Tetonkatest wrote:
May 12th, 2022, 11:45 am
Looks like they are dumping a lot of games so they can fit in their Big12 schedule.
I think there will be future games schedules between USU and BYU. But who knows how often?


USU future football schedules

https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/utah-state/

BYU future football schedules

https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/byu/
The only concern in the near future is who will Hartwell schedule for a home game in 2023 since that was BYU home year. I hope he is able to get a decent team under contract for a home/home.
Yeah we are pretty much hosed in 2023. Most decent teama already have their 2023 schedule finalized. My guess is we will have the pleasure of hosting nmsu or Liberty. ...


It does look like Marshall has an opening for an away game that weekend in 2023. I would be cool with that.
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Post by Full » May 12th, 2022, 12:24 pm

Aggie84025 wrote:
May 12th, 2022, 11:48 am
The only concern in the near future is who will Hartwell schedule for a home game in 2023 since that was BYU home year. I hope he is able to get a decent team under contract for a home/home.
How many teams have an opening on their schedule in 2023 that can be filled with an away game as the first game of a home and home. That’s got to be a very short list. I think Hartwell is smart enough to not repeat the mistake of scheduling a 2-1 with a team like Wake Forest the last time we had a similar situation. I don’t care about P5 or G5 or UMass, I just want a home and home agreement.
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Post by Kevincurtisforlife » May 12th, 2022, 12:25 pm

We just need that wagon wheel back before they bounce. 😉
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Post by ratofallaggies » May 12th, 2022, 12:28 pm

just wait for the big 12 to implode....
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Post by LarryTheAggie » May 12th, 2022, 12:31 pm

ratofallaggies wrote:
May 12th, 2022, 12:28 pm
just wait for the big 12 to implode....
I always think this is wishful thinking... then I see Rato make these comments and think, "what does he know that I dont know???"
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Post by Aggie84025 » May 12th, 2022, 12:32 pm

Full wrote:
May 12th, 2022, 12:24 pm
Aggie84025 wrote:
May 12th, 2022, 11:48 am
The only concern in the near future is who will Hartwell schedule for a home game in 2023 since that was BYU home year. I hope he is able to get a decent team under contract for a home/home.
How many teams have an opening on their schedule in 2023 that can be filled with an away game as the first game of a home and home. That’s got to be a very short list. I think Hartwell is smart enough to not repeat the mistake of scheduling a 2-1 with a team like Wake Forest the last time we had a similar situation. I don’t care about P5 or G5 or UMass, I just want a home and home agreement.
Exactly just get any G5 on the schedule that is willing to start the series as the away team next year. Hartwell overall has done a good job scheduling and am confident he will make something work. The last thing you can do is only have 5 home games next year.
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Post by LarryTheAggie » May 12th, 2022, 12:32 pm

Full wrote:
May 12th, 2022, 12:24 pm
Aggie84025 wrote:
May 12th, 2022, 11:48 am
The only concern in the near future is who will Hartwell schedule for a home game in 2023 since that was BYU home year. I hope he is able to get a decent team under contract for a home/home.
How many teams have an opening on their schedule in 2023 that can be filled with an away game as the first game of a home and home. That’s got to be a very short list. I think Hartwell is smart enough to not repeat the mistake of scheduling a 2-1 with a team like Wake Forest the last time we had a similar situation. I don’t care about P5 or G5 or UMass, I just want a home and home agreement.
I am really jumping on the Marshall band wagon. Looks like they also need a home game in 2024 which we could provide.
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Post by Usu0505 » May 12th, 2022, 12:36 pm

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Post by Aggie84025 » May 12th, 2022, 12:40 pm

LarryTheAggie wrote:
May 12th, 2022, 12:32 pm
Full wrote:
May 12th, 2022, 12:24 pm
Aggie84025 wrote:
May 12th, 2022, 11:48 am
The only concern in the near future is who will Hartwell schedule for a home game in 2023 since that was BYU home year. I hope he is able to get a decent team under contract for a home/home.
How many teams have an opening on their schedule in 2023 that can be filled with an away game as the first game of a home and home. That’s got to be a very short list. I think Hartwell is smart enough to not repeat the mistake of scheduling a 2-1 with a team like Wake Forest the last time we had a similar situation. I don’t care about P5 or G5 or UMass, I just want a home and home agreement.
I am really jumping on the Marshall band wagon. Looks like they also need a home game in 2024 which we could provide.
Marshall is one of the teams i would love to play a home/home with. They have a really good tradition. I have never been to WV and would love to visit to see all the natural beauty the state has to offer.
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Post by aggies22 » May 12th, 2022, 12:41 pm

Aggie84025 wrote:
May 12th, 2022, 11:48 am
Tetonkatest wrote:
May 12th, 2022, 11:45 am
Looks like they are dumping a lot of games so they can fit in their Big12 schedule.
I think there will be future games schedules between USU and BYU. But who knows how often?


USU future football schedules

https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/utah-state/

BYU future football schedules

https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/byu/
The only concern in the near future is who will Hartwell schedule for a home game in 2023 since that was BYU home year. I hope he is able to get a decent team under contract for a home/home.
I'm sure he's making calls this morning.



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Post by Mr. Sneelock » May 12th, 2022, 12:42 pm

I honestly don't even care. Seriously. BYU is nothing but trouble. The farther we can stay away from them the better as far as I am concerned. They are fun games, but I won't lose any sleep over it. I wouldn't mind playing them at some point again in the future, but only on H/H terms.
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Post by JSHarvey » May 12th, 2022, 12:46 pm

The most annoying thing (to me) is that we don't get one cent to help cover the costs of getting a new schedule in place, BYU just gets to walk away without paying anything. :-(
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Post by SLB » May 12th, 2022, 12:55 pm

This is actually sad because it was that last Aggies vs Utah or BYU thing. There is something great about in-state games, but I will guess that we will go to the PAC 12 down the road.



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Post by AGGIEinIOWA » May 12th, 2022, 1:02 pm

I think BYU dropped a 2023 home game against Rice. Perhaps we pick that one up.
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Post by ineptimusprime » May 12th, 2022, 1:12 pm

I am ambivalent about this. I like playing the game. But I also would like new and exciting opponents at MOFAMS and new and exciting locales to visit for road games. We are fortunate to now have a successful football program that doesn't need BYU financially or competitively.

This would have been a much bigger deal 10-12 years ago, but today -- multiple bowl trophies and a conference championship trophy later -- the landscape is very different.
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Post by NavyBlueAggie » May 12th, 2022, 1:12 pm

This scheduling cancellation and replacement development will take some time to sort out and work through. I wouldn't expect a stunning game schedule upgrade any time soon, especially with the historically our game day attendance at the Mav.

We've had decades to address the pathetic game day attendance and, as an institution, and done nothing to resolve the situation.

Following the Utah series cancellation we should have been motivated to do something beyond raising game day and season ticket pricing, BUT WE HAVE FAILED.



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Post by ineptimusprime » May 12th, 2022, 1:17 pm

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This scheduling cancellation and replacement development will take some time to sort out and work through. I wouldn't expect a stunning game schedule upgrade any time soon, especially with the historically our game day attendance at the Mav.

We've had decades to address the pathetic game day attendance and, as an institution, and done nothing to resolve the situation.

Following the Utah series cancellation we should have been motivated to do something beyond raising game day and season ticket pricing, BUT WE HAVE FAILED.
In some ways I feel like we missed the boat on ever having super solid attendance. We didn't develop a winning tradition during the years when not every game was on live TV and in HD, so we never really built up a sizable, devoted fan base that grew up going to games. Now it's so easy to just watch on TV even for people who are very invested in the program.

I am team "make the stadium nicer but not necessarily bigger" -- just don't think there will ever be a need for more capacity at MOFAMS unless Logan quadruples in size.
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Post by Imakeitrain » May 12th, 2022, 1:19 pm

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I honestly don't even care. Seriously. BYU is nothing but trouble. The farther we can stay away from them the better as far as I am concerned. They are fun games, but I won't lose any sleep over it. I wouldn't mind playing them at some point again in the future, but only on H/H terms.
I predict that at first BYU will be on their best behavior with the Big 12... but then within the first 3-5 years every school in the Big 12 will despise them. It seems to happen with everyone BYU plays.

BYU thinks it's because everyone is jealous of them. The proverbial "they just hate me because they can't date me"

But that doesn't make sense as most of the schools, especially schools outside of Utah have had nothing to be jealous of when they stopped liking BYU.
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Post by 918AGG » May 12th, 2022, 1:21 pm

I hear Manhattan, KS, is beautiful in the fall. Adieu.


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Post by AGGIEinIOWA » May 12th, 2022, 1:27 pm

From what I can glean, these teams may be looking to fill a 2023 road game.

Kansas
Marshall
SMU
Tulane
UCF
MTSU
Liberty
Army
NMSU

GT, Miami, and Virginia could potentially be looking as well but unlikely to agree to a home/home with us.

I’d be all for a home/home with Kansas. Winnable P5 game and a Nice 3.5 hours from me.
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