My understanding is even with a Hawaii win tomorrow they won't be bowl eligible. Please correct me if I am wrong. That means the conference has 7 bowl eligible teams, right? How many bowl tie ins does the conference have? If we lose to SDSU next week what is the next best bowl game, and would we be invited?

After the LA Bowl slot is filled with our champion, there are no criteria, it is just a drafting order. I’m not sure what the exact order is of precedence for the bowls, but whoever gets first pick can pick whichever team they think is going to sell the most tickets and get the highest TV ratings.

The conference has 6 tie ins with 7 currently eligible. There are currently 73 teams that have qualified for a bowl game. There are 82 open slots. There are 4 games with teams that are each 5-6 so that would bring the total to 77. There are like 7 additional teams that are 5-6 that play teams that are either already bowl eligible or have no chance of being bowl eligible. If all those 7 won that would put the total at like ~84 teams. The odds of that happening are super low. I am guessing the Aggies if they don't win would end up in either the Arizona, HAW or Frisco Bowl. We have not played at HAW this year so that opens up that possibility although I would not be surprised to see AF go the HAW bowl.

ronburgandee wrote: ↑

November 26th, 2021, 5:33 pm

My understanding is even with a Hawaii win tomorrow they won't be bowl eligible. Please correct me if I am wrong. That means the conference has 7 bowl eligible teams, right? How many bowl tie ins does the conference have? If we lose to SDSU next week what is the next best bowl game, and would we be invited?

HAW had 13 games so they needed 7 wins. They will not be going bowling. Scheduling 2 games against NMSU should also disqualify you as well.

Aggie84025 wrote: ↑

November 26th, 2021, 6:08 pm

ronburgandee wrote: ↑

November 26th, 2021, 5:33 pm

My understanding is even with a Hawaii win tomorrow they won't be bowl eligible. Please correct me if I am wrong. That means the conference has 7 bowl eligible teams, right? How many bowl tie ins does the conference have? If we lose to SDSU next week what is the next best bowl game, and would we be invited?

HAW had 13 games so they needed 7 wins. They will not be going bowling. Scheduling 2 games against NMSU should also disqualify you as well.

So you are advising against a four-game series, including a twi-night doubleheader against NMSU next year?

Yeah, the bowl situation is really complicated. Each conference has "primary" bowls for which they have a contract. Some have "secondary" bowls for which they are the preferred fill in if one of the "primary" conferences can't get enough teams bowl eligible to fill their "primary" contracts. Then there are the playoff bowls, the New Years Day bowls, and then the 4-5 bowls that are "any G-5". There are just too many moving parts. A few things are starting to become clear, though. The PAC-12 has 6 primary bowls, not including the NY6 and the playoffs. They currently have 6 bowl eligible teams, and none of the remaining 6 have any chance of getting bowl eligible. So, the PAC-12 is likely to have at least 1 primary bowl that they can't fill. That excess bowl could be the Red Box bowl, which some sources say has been cancelled.

Bottom line, with a few exceptions, like the MWC champion going to the LA Bowl, I don't think anyone will really know anything until December 5.

Aggie84025 wrote: ↑

November 26th, 2021, 6:06 pm

The conference has 6 tie ins with 7 currently eligible. There are currently 73 teams that have qualified for a bowl game. There are 82 open slots. There are 4 games with teams that are each 5-6 so that would bring the total to 77. There are like 7 additional teams that are 5-6 that play teams that are either already bowl eligible or have no chance of being bowl eligible. If all those 7 won that would put the total at like ~84 teams. The odds of that happening are super low. I am guessing the Aggies if they don't win would end up in either the Arizona, HAW or Frisco Bowl. We have not played at HAW this year so that opens up that possibility although I would not be surprised to see AF go the HAW bowl.

I really hope we don't go to the Hawaii bowl. We won't get many fans there, and it's going to be played in the Univ. of Hawaii practice facility, with temporary bleachers seating about 6,000.

LKGates wrote: ↑

November 27th, 2021, 12:08 am

Aggie84025 wrote: ↑

November 26th, 2021, 6:06 pm

The conference has 6 tie ins with 7 currently eligible. There are currently 73 teams that have qualified for a bowl game. There are 82 open slots. There are 4 games with teams that are each 5-6 so that would bring the total to 77. There are like 7 additional teams that are 5-6 that play teams that are either already bowl eligible or have no chance of being bowl eligible. If all those 7 won that would put the total at like ~84 teams. The odds of that happening are super low. I am guessing the Aggies if they don't win would end up in either the Arizona, HAW or Frisco Bowl. We have not played at HAW this year so that opens up that possibility although I would not be surprised to see AF go the HAW bowl.

I really hope we don't go to the Hawaii bowl. We won't get many fans there, and it's going to be played in the Univ. of Hawaii practice facility, with temporary bleachers seating about 6,000.

Yeah and it’s on Christmas Eve. Give me some Arizona Bowl please! Although I’m sure the players would be pumped to go play in Hawaii.

LKGates wrote: ↑

November 27th, 2021, 12:08 am

Aggie84025 wrote: ↑

November 26th, 2021, 6:06 pm

The conference has 6 tie ins with 7 currently eligible. There are currently 73 teams that have qualified for a bowl game. There are 82 open slots. There are 4 games with teams that are each 5-6 so that would bring the total to 77. There are like 7 additional teams that are 5-6 that play teams that are either already bowl eligible or have no chance of being bowl eligible. If all those 7 won that would put the total at like ~84 teams. The odds of that happening are super low. I am guessing the Aggies if they don't win would end up in either the Arizona, HAW or Frisco Bowl. We have not played at HAW this year so that opens up that possibility although I would not be surprised to see AF go the HAW bowl.

I really hope we don't go to the Hawaii bowl. We won't get many fans there, and it's going to be played in the Univ. of Hawaii practice facility, with temporary bleachers seating about 6,000.

I agree, it is just too short of a time to get reasonable airline tickets . I think the players would enjoy it. I am guessing AF, Boise or Nev go to the HAW bowl. Arizona bowl would be great.

I understand the destination and proximity is good but playing a 6 or 7 win MAC team in the Arizona bowl isn’t all that appealing of a matchup to me. Maybe we could get NIU or CMU, which would have at least 8 wins then maybe it’d be ok.

Aggie84025 wrote: ↑

November 26th, 2021, 6:08 pm

ronburgandee wrote: ↑

November 26th, 2021, 5:33 pm

My understanding is even with a Hawaii win tomorrow they won't be bowl eligible. Please correct me if I am wrong. That means the conference has 7 bowl eligible teams, right? How many bowl tie ins does the conference have? If we lose to SDSU next week what is the next best bowl game, and would we be invited?

HAW had 13 games so they needed 7 wins. They will not be going bowling. Scheduling 2 games against NMSU should also disqualify you as well.

As I understand it, 6-7 teams are bowl eligible, but they can only be invited to a bowl if there are unfilled bowl slots after all 6-6 teams have been invited to bowls. This year there are 82 bowl bids and 83 teams with a record of 6-6 or better, so Hawaii is not eligible at 6-7.

LKGates wrote: ↑

November 27th, 2021, 12:08 am

I really hope we don't go to the Hawaii bowl. We won't get many fans there, and it's going to be played in the Univ. of Hawaii practice facility, with temporary bleachers seating about 6,000.

You'd need multiple charter flights to Hawaii to get a significant number of fans there. That's tough for any G5 school let alone Utah State. The bigger question for that bowl would be local interest. The Hawaii locals wouldn't be interested in Utah State.

AggieFBObsession wrote: ↑

November 28th, 2021, 2:57 pm

LKGates wrote: ↑

November 27th, 2021, 12:08 am

I really hope we don't go to the Hawaii bowl. We won't get many fans there, and it's going to be played in the Univ. of Hawaii practice facility, with temporary bleachers seating about 6,000.

You'd need multiple charter flights to Hawaii to get a significant number of fans there. That's tough for any G5 school let alone Utah State. The bigger question for that bowl would be local interest. The Hawaii locals wouldn't be interested in Utah State.

With the high number of polynesian players on Utah State’s roster, this seems wrong. Aside from UH, what team is going to have more appeal?

If the players want to go to Hawaii for Christmas as a reward for their season, I hope that’s where we go. It’s the only one of the conference’s contracted bowls we’ve never played in, and will bring the best opponent, right (well, aside from the LV or LA Bowl).

My dream? The LA Bowl against Oregon State. After that, my second choice would be Hawaii Bowl based on matchup. Armed Forces or First Responder wouldn’t be bad. New Mexico and Arizona would be acceptable. Potato Bowl would be the pits.

The Hawaii Bowl would be miserable. Won't they be playing on basically an intramural field right?

There are 83 teams bowl eligible with 82 spots to fill. MWC has 6 tie-ins be interesting to see if WYO gets left out or if Thompson gets a 7th spot for the conference. I could see someone from MAC getting left out.

FloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑

November 28th, 2021, 5:51 pm

The Hawaii Bowl would be miserable. Won't they be playing on basically an intramural field right?

As opposed to the rusty bombed-out shell of an old Pro Bowl that hardly ever had more than 10,000 people in it?

I'm not sure it's that much of a downgrade.

BearLakeMonster wrote: ↑

November 28th, 2021, 7:20 pm

FloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑

November 28th, 2021, 5:51 pm

The Hawaii Bowl would be miserable. Won't they be playing on basically an intramural field right?

As opposed to the rusty bombed-out shell of an old Pro Bowl that hardly ever had more than 10,000 people in it?

I'm not sure it's that much of a downgrade.

Exactly, the players still get a week in HAW which is awesome for them.

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑

November 28th, 2021, 4:13 pm

With the high number of polynesian players on Utah State’s roster, this seems wrong. Aside from UH, what team is going to have more appeal?

I agree about playing Oregon State. About the above, it's the perception that matters, not the facts in this case.