MW championships game.

MWCFAN12 · Post by **MWCFAN12** » October 31st, 2021, 10:44 am

What needs to happen for us to host this thing?

1 USU win out.

If Boise beats Fresno and sdsu would we host this ?

ineptimusprime · Post by **ineptimusprime** » October 31st, 2021, 11:44 am

If we win out, I think we could host if Boise also wins out.

The other question is who we want to play out of Fresno, SDSU, and Nevada? I’ve honestly not watched a single minute of any of those teams, but I suspect the answer is whichever of those teams has the smallest offensive and defensive lines.

We do soooo much better when we aren’t mismatched on the LoS. We barely overcame this against CSU and UNLV, and it killed us against Boise and BYU.

Blake Anderson’s comment that Hawaii “looked more like us” on the lines was telling in how the game played out.

BeNo · Post by **BeNo** » October 31st, 2021, 11:55 am

if we get 2 losses the only way we host is via tie-breakers and seeing utaggies great breakdown of a tie-breaker with 2 losses just to win the division - we had better win out and have only one loss in order to have a chance to host.

as far as opponent - I prefer sdsu. they are legacy MW and will extend the ongoing championship game rivalry in bball.

ViAggie · Post by **ViAggie** » October 31st, 2021, 12:07 pm

For very selfish reasons, I hope that we get play SDSU in LA, then beat them and get the LA Bowl in LA, two home games for me (and others).

ususports · Post by **ususports** » October 31st, 2021, 12:15 pm

BeNo wrote: ↑
October 31st, 2021, 11:55 am
if we get 2 losses the only way we host is via tie-breakers and seeing utaggies great breakdown of a tie-breaker with 2 losses just to win the division - we had better win out and have only one loss in order to have a chance to host.

as far as opponent - I prefer sdsu. they are legacy MW and will extend the ongoing championship game rivalry in bball.

That would only relate to getting to the championship game, not hosting it. The team that has the highest ranking hosts the game. Tiebreakers have nothing to do with it.

BeNo · Post by **BeNo** » October 31st, 2021, 12:20 pm

ususports wrote: ↑
October 31st, 2021, 12:15 pm

BeNo wrote: ↑
October 31st, 2021, 11:55 am
if we get 2 losses the only way we host is via tie-breakers and seeing utaggies great breakdown of a tie-breaker with 2 losses just to win the division - we had better win out and have only one loss in order to have a chance to host.

as far as opponent - I prefer sdsu. they are legacy MW and will extend the ongoing championship game rivalry in bball.
That would only relate to getting to the championship game, not hosting it. The team that has the highest ranking hosts the game. Tiebreakers have nothing to do with it.

Thanks for clarification - so if we have one loss and west winner has two losses the one with the highest ranking hosts?

GameFAQSAggie · Post by **GameFAQSAggie** » October 31st, 2021, 12:33 pm

BeNo wrote: ↑
October 31st, 2021, 12:20 pm

ususports wrote: ↑
October 31st, 2021, 12:15 pm

BeNo wrote: ↑
October 31st, 2021, 11:55 am
if we get 2 losses the only way we host is via tie-breakers and seeing utaggies great breakdown of a tie-breaker with 2 losses just to win the division - we had better win out and have only one loss in order to have a chance to host.

as far as opponent - I prefer sdsu. they are legacy MW and will extend the ongoing championship game rivalry in bball.
That would only relate to getting to the championship game, not hosting it. The team that has the highest ranking hosts the game. Tiebreakers have nothing to do with it.
Thanks for clarification - so if we have one loss and west winner has two losses the one with the highest ranking hosts?

We host with one loss if west champ has two.

FL350Aggie · Post by **FL350Aggie** » October 31st, 2021, 12:36 pm

As much as I would love to host the game, it will likely be a late in early December. I think it’s time to schedule it yearly in Vegas.

slcagg · Post by **slcagg** » October 31st, 2021, 12:46 pm

GameFAQSAggie wrote: ↑
October 31st, 2021, 12:33 pm

BeNo wrote: ↑
October 31st, 2021, 12:20 pm

ususports wrote: ↑
October 31st, 2021, 12:15 pm

BeNo wrote: ↑
October 31st, 2021, 11:55 am
if we get 2 losses the only way we host is via tie-breakers and seeing utaggies great breakdown of a tie-breaker with 2 losses just to win the division - we had better win out and have only one loss in order to have a chance to host.

as far as opponent - I prefer sdsu. they are legacy MW and will extend the ongoing championship game rivalry in bball.
That would only relate to getting to the championship game, not hosting it. The team that has the highest ranking hosts the game. Tiebreakers have nothing to do with it.
Thanks for clarification - so if we have one loss and west winner has two losses the one with the highest ranking hosts?
We host with one loss if west champ has two.

And that why is we need to cheer for these top 3 teams from the west to drop one more…even against Boise.

travelingagg · Post by **travelingagg** » October 31st, 2021, 12:47 pm

FL350Aggie wrote: ↑
October 31st, 2021, 12:36 pm
As much as I would love to host the game, it will likely be a late in early December. I think it’s time to schedule it yearly in Vegas.

+1. Unless teams are playing in So-Fi stadium, it's quite literally the nicest place a team can play. Nothing like a 72-degree game in a city most everyone would rather visit than most (all?) MWC home towns. PAC-12 is already doing it without a team in Vegas. Makes sense that we would as well.

slcagg · Post by **slcagg** » October 31st, 2021, 12:52 pm

travelingagg wrote: ↑
October 31st, 2021, 12:47 pm

FL350Aggie wrote: ↑
October 31st, 2021, 12:36 pm
As much as I would love to host the game, it will likely be a late in early December. I think it’s time to schedule it yearly in Vegas.
+1. Unless teams are playing in So-Fi stadium, it's quite literally the nicest place a team can play. Nothing like a 72-degree game in a city most everyone would rather visit than most (all?) MWC home towns. PAC-12 is already doing it without a team in Vegas. Makes sense that we would as well.

Would it cost? That may be the bottom line

SwaggieAggie · Post by **SwaggieAggie** » October 31st, 2021, 1:05 pm

FL350Aggie wrote: ↑
October 31st, 2021, 12:36 pm
As much as I would love to host the game, it will likely be a late in early December. I think it’s time to schedule it yearly in Vegas.

I always thought a neutral site should be a no-brainer for a conference championship. Vegas would be an amazing venue, but with the P12 playing their championship games there now wouldn't it complicate it? I know they always play on Friday night while we do it the day after on Saturday.

ususports · Post by **ususports** » October 31st, 2021, 5:05 pm

FL350Aggie wrote: ↑
October 31st, 2021, 12:36 pm
As much as I would love to host the game, it will likely be a late in early December. I think it’s time to schedule it yearly in Vegas.

The kickoff time is already set at 1:00 p.m. mountain time. Still very cold if it were to be in Logan, but at least it would not be a night game.

Forrest Dupre · Post by **Forrest Dupre** » October 31st, 2021, 11:31 pm

ususports wrote: ↑
October 31st, 2021, 5:05 pm

FL350Aggie wrote: ↑
October 31st, 2021, 12:36 pm
As much as I would love to host the game, it will likely be a late in early December. I think it’s time to schedule it yearly in Vegas.
The kickoff time is already set at 1:00 p.m. mountain time. Still very cold if it were to be in Logan, but at least it would not be a night game.

The average high temp for December 3 in Logan is a balmy 38 degrees. As a former U of Wisconsin season ticket holder for 29 years, I've sat in a lot of late November games in the teens. To enjoy a game in cold weather:
1. Long johns are a must; put flannel shirt, sweatshirt and parka on top and you'll be toasty.
2. Hiking boots or other warm shoes required.
3. Buy some chemical heatpacks that hunters use. A large pack inside your shirt and a small one inside each of your gloves will fell like you're in the tropics.
4. If you'll be joining me on those steel bleachers in the west stands, bring a blanket to sit on.
5. To feel even warmer, just remind yourself that we're not going to sit through the Idaho Potato Bowl.
6. Think of the LA Bowl or Arizona Bowl in Tucson!

Finally, it won't matter how cold it allegedly is, watching the Aggies win a league title will make you feel warm all over!!

FL350Aggie · Post by **FL350Aggie** » November 1st, 2021, 8:00 am

A 1:00 pm kickoff is huge. Ok bring it to Logan.

NVAggie · Post by **NVAggie** » November 1st, 2021, 8:39 am

Apparently we have a bunch of hunters that are also Aggie fans (I remember hearing this as a reason we don't get people to games). Just wear your hunting gear and you should be just fine, probably a bit too toasty.

3rdGenAggie · Post by **3rdGenAggie** » November 1st, 2021, 8:43 am

If USU wants in the championship game, they need to win out. That's how I see it...all the scenarios are somewhat irrelevant to me.

FL350Aggie · Post by **FL350Aggie** » November 1st, 2021, 9:11 am

3rdGenAggie wrote: ↑
November 1st, 2021, 8:43 am
If USU wants in the championship game, they need to win out. That's how I see it...all the scenarios are somewhat irrelevant to me.

I agree. I really think they can, but SJSU and Wyoming definitely are not gimmes. Would be so amazing if they can make it happen. Just the fact that we are even discussing playing in the MWC championship game is surreal.
That being said I expect Boise and Air Force to slip up one more time.

NVAggie · Post by **NVAggie** » November 1st, 2021, 9:28 am

It kind of sucks that we can't seem to make this game when we have our best teams. That is just how it goes, but it is rather frustrating. I wish we could have made it in 2018. That would have been really awesome.

hickaggie · Post by **hickaggie** » November 1st, 2021, 10:25 am

3rdGenAggie wrote: ↑
November 1st, 2021, 8:43 am
If USU wants in the championship game, they need to win out. That's how I see it...all the scenarios are somewhat irrelevant to me.

I agree but from a practical standpoint doesn't it come down to a 3-0 finish or 2-1 with a Boise loss as pretty much certainties. Its only if Boise wins out and the Aggies don't that its complicated.

SJSU will be a real battle I think and may be another game when the Aggies might not even be the favorites. They've got a good back and a pretty stout D-line and playing at home with some pride on the line. I keep thinking Wyoming will be a trap game but it looks more and more like the wheels are coming off for them.

Sl7vk · Post by **Sl7vk** » November 1st, 2021, 11:36 am

We now are tied with Fresneck to win the MWC Championship. Obviously those odds go down if we make it to the final, and then meet them SDSU or Nevada.

Now have a 79% chance of representing the Mountain, with AFA at 13% and Boise at 7%

http://www.playoffstatus.com/mountainwe ... nprob.html

HomeTown · Post by **HomeTown** » November 1st, 2021, 12:59 pm

The MW website says the host is decided by the team with the higher composite computer rankings. I think that last year San Jose hosted it in Vegas due to California COVID restrictions.

https://themw.com/news/2020/12/13/mount ... -game.aspx

utaggies · Post by **utaggies** » November 1st, 2021, 1:09 pm

HomeTown wrote: ↑
November 1st, 2021, 12:59 pm
The MW website says the host is decided by the team with the higher composite computer rankings. I think that last year San Jose hosted it in Vegas due to California COVID restrictions.

https://themw.com/news/2020/12/13/mount ... -game.aspx

The computer ranking comes into play only after all other tie-breakers are unsatisfied.

Forrest Dupre · Post by **Forrest Dupre** » November 1st, 2021, 2:46 pm

Here are the criteria to host the Mountain West Championship game:

The division champion with the better conference record will host the championship game. If the teams have the same record, the following tie-breaking procedure is used:

1. Head-to-head record
2. Higher College Football Playoff ranking going into the final week of regular season, excluding teams who are not ranked and/or that lost their final regular season game
3. Composite of selected computer rankings
4. Record versus common conference opponents
5. Highest overall winning percentage (conference and non-conference excluding exempt games)
6. Coin toss

See: https://themw.com/news/2018/7/23/mounta ... edure.aspx

So for the Aggies to host the MWCG, we need to win out and for San Diego State to lose another game .It would also help our chances to host if 4-4 Boise beat Fresno. I know many will say our chances of winning the Mountain division, and thus getting into the MWCG, are better if Fresno wins. But I want some Cali guys to play in Logan cold in December.

Isn't this fun?

WAAggie · Post by **WAAggie** » November 1st, 2021, 3:15 pm

To make lots of friends, bring a box of hand warmers. I had lots of friends at the potato bowl cause I passed out my extras.

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NowhereLandAggie · Post by **NowhereLandAggie** » November 1st, 2021, 3:32 pm

SwaggieAggie wrote: ↑
October 31st, 2021, 1:05 pm

FL350Aggie wrote: ↑
October 31st, 2021, 12:36 pm
As much as I would love to host the game, it will likely be a late in early December. I think it’s time to schedule it yearly in Vegas.
I always thought a neutral site should be a no-brainer for a conference championship. Vegas would be an amazing venue, but with the P12 playing their championship games there now wouldn't it complicate it? I know they always play on Friday night while we do it the day after on Saturday.

The old WAC 16 Championship games at Sam Boyd stadium were very poorly attended, unless BYU was involved. Even then it wasn't a sellout always. When BYU had their last truly elite season, they sold over 41,000 seats. My guess is that there would be less than 20,000 in the stands if we had it in Vegas unless one of the teams was in the top 10.

NavyBlueAggie · Post by **NavyBlueAggie** » November 1st, 2021, 5:22 pm

FL350Aggie wrote: ↑
October 31st, 2021, 12:36 pm
As much as I would love to host the game, it will likely be a late in early December. I think it’s time to schedule it yearly in Vegas.

CAPITAL Suggestion,,,,FL350. I wonder if decision makers had considered that possibility.

USU78 · Post by **USU78** » November 1st, 2021, 6:27 pm

HomeTown wrote: ↑
November 1st, 2021, 12:59 pm
The MW website says the host is decided by the team with the higher composite computer rankings. I think that last year San Jose hosted it in Vegas due to California COVID restrictions.

https://themw.com/news/2020/12/13/mount ... -game.aspx

Yes, the old encoded Boazy favoritism provisions. And this one's my favorite.

Post by **Aglicious** » November 1st, 2021, 11:06 pm

The reason behind moving to the top team hosting the championship game was to give them the best shot of representing the conference in the NY6 race.

It was felt that a neutral site championship was adding risk to the top team not winning out and thus blowing the MWC's chance of being the G5 rep in a NY6 game.

USU78 · Post by **USU78** » November 1st, 2021, 11:31 pm

Boazy Boazy Boazy. They are the god of the MWC's idolatry.

JennyWilliamson · Post by **JennyWilliamson** » November 2nd, 2021, 6:49 am

ususports wrote: ↑
October 31st, 2021, 12:15 pm

BeNo wrote: ↑
October 31st, 2021, 11:55 am
if we get 2 losses the only way we host is via tie-breakers and seeing utaggies great breakdown of a tie-breaker with 2 losses just to win the division - we had better win out and have only one loss in order to have a chance to host.

as far as opponent - I prefer sdsu. they are legacy MW and will extend the ongoing championship game rivalry in bball.
That would only relate to getting to the championship game, not hosting it. The team that has the highest ranking hosts the game. Tiebreakers have nothing to do with it.

Thanks for clarification

BigBlueDart · Post by **BigBlueDart** » November 2nd, 2021, 2:29 pm

Just to clear up some confusion, the host of the MWC CG is no longer decided by ranking, or at least not initially by ranking. That ended after 2017. Since 2018 the host has been decided by the team with the highest conference winning percentage, followed by the following tie-breakers:

1. Head-to-head result between the tied divisional champions.

2. If still tied:
If one team was ranked in the latest available CFP Selection Committee ranking and wins in the final weekend of the regular season, they will be declared the host. If in that same scenario, the team that was the highest-ranked team in the latest available CFP Selection Committee ranking loses in the final weekend of the regular season, a composite average of selected computer rankings will be used;
OR
If both teams are ranked in the latest available CFP Selection Committee ranking, the highest-ranked team that wins in the final weekend of the regular season;
OR
If neither of the ranked teams win in the final weekend of the regular season, a composite average of selected computer rankings after all games conclude the final weekend of the regular season will be used;
OR
If neither team is ranked in the latest available CFP Selection Committee ranking going into the final weekend of the regular season, a composite average of selected computer rankings after all games conclude the final weekend of the regular season will be used.
3. If still tied, the best record against common Conference opponents.

4. If still tied, the team with the highest overall winning percentage (Conference and non-conference excluding exempt games).

5. If still tied, a coin toss will be conducted by the Commissioner.

Source: https://themw.com/news/2018/7/23/mounta ... edure.aspx

aceofspadeskb · Post by **aceofspadeskb** » November 2nd, 2021, 3:12 pm

Does anyone else wish they'd just play this in Vegas? It's not like UNLV is really ever going to be a risk of being in the game.

AggieFBObsession · Post by **AggieFBObsession** » November 2nd, 2021, 3:54 pm

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑
October 31st, 2021, 11:44 am
The other question is who we want to play out of Fresno, SDSU, and Nevada? I’ve honestly not watched a single minute of any of those teams, but I suspect the answer is whichever of those teams has the smallest offensive and defensive lines.

Besides UNM and Wyoming which teams play boring a$$ football I have watched every single game of every MWC team at least for a couple of quarters each game.

Of the teams you mentioned, I would want to face SDSU the least. They are extremely physical and very big on both of their lines. Not good QB play, but it wouldn't matter because they'd mow us down with their running game.

Fresno would be an entertaining game because we could score on them and then won't run a lot. They do have some extremely good DL, two of which are NFL guys.

Nevada is similar to both of those two but not as talented on both lines. Carson Strong is a very high IQ QB though.

ViAggie · Post by **ViAggie** » November 2nd, 2021, 4:08 pm

AggieFBObsession wrote: ↑
November 2nd, 2021, 3:54 pm

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑
October 31st, 2021, 11:44 am
The other question is who we want to play out of Fresno, SDSU, and Nevada? I’ve honestly not watched a single minute of any of those teams, but I suspect the answer is whichever of those teams has the smallest offensive and defensive lines.
Besides UNM and Wyoming which teams play boring a$$ football I have watched every single game of every MWC team at least for a couple of quarters each game.

Of the teams you mentioned, I would want to face SDSU the least. They are extremely physical and very big on both of their lines. Not good QB play, but it wouldn't matter because they'd mow us down with their running game.

Fresno would be an entertaining game because we could score on them and then won't run a lot. They do have some extremely good DL, two of which are NFL guys.

Nevada is similar to both of those two but not as talented on both lines. Carson Strong is a very high IQ QB though.

We would have a tough slog beating any of the top 3 from the West division, no doubt. Aren’t we 3-0 over Fresno State right now? Something we could never accomplish when we were in the BW together with them. At least we’re 1-0 vs SDSU at the moment

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