When was the last time we saw a designed run from under center at USU in a non Goal line package?

Roy McAvoy · Post by **Roy McAvoy** » October 17th, 2021, 7:18 am

Seriously. When was the last time we saw that play called? The QB goes under center and the play is a designed handoff through a certain hole in the line.

My memory is thinking it’s got to be back to like 2010. Is it really that long, or longer? Has it really never happened in 10+ seasons at Usu and about 8 different OC’s?

NVAggie · Post by **NVAggie** » October 17th, 2021, 7:24 am

Last year.

Roy McAvoy · Post by **Roy McAvoy** » October 17th, 2021, 7:26 am

NVAggie wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2021, 7:24 am
Last year.

Did it? I’ve eliminated last season from my memory. It didn’t happen & doesn’t count. So, when else?

slcagg · Post by **slcagg** » October 17th, 2021, 7:27 am

This past game. And we fumbled it.

Roy McAvoy · Post by **Roy McAvoy** » October 17th, 2021, 7:29 am

slcagg wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2021, 7:27 am
This past game. And we fumbled it.

I know I’m creating a lot of exceptions here, but I don’t really count a goal line package as to what I’m referencing.

I’m just talking straight up normal play, around midfield, not extenuating circumstances, and we get under center and run the ball.

I’m not complaining, just pointing out how crazy it is we’ve gone through this many OC’s with never really seeing it as a part of the offense at all.

Elkaggie · Post by **Elkaggie** » October 17th, 2021, 7:31 am

We did it early in the season maybe against Washington state.

There was a decent hole it in all likelihood he would have scored.

slcagg · Post by **slcagg** » October 17th, 2021, 7:54 am

Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2021, 7:29 am

slcagg wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2021, 7:27 am
This past game. And we fumbled it.
I know I’m creating a lot of exceptions here, but I don’t really count a goal line package as to what I’m referencing.

I’m just talking straight up normal play, around midfield, not extenuating circumstances, and we get under center and run the ball.

I’m not complaining, just pointing out how crazy it is we’ve gone through this many OC’s with never really seeing it as a part of the offense at all.

It’s a good point. My question is why is that? Hartwell and what he wants in an offense and who he has hired? Personnel?

brownjeans · Post by **brownjeans** » October 17th, 2021, 8:11 am

It's no wonder we fumbled the snap.

If we rarely do it, we won't do it well. I wish we did it more often.

NVAggie · Post by **NVAggie** » October 17th, 2021, 8:12 am

It would have went for six too. Bonner could have flipped it to the RB and still scored.

CaptainChaos · Post by **CaptainChaos** » October 17th, 2021, 8:14 am

I’ve never seen the victory formation with the qb in the shotgun before either. We don’t even go under center for that.

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rollinsm32 · Post by **rollinsm32** » October 17th, 2021, 10:07 am

CaptainChaos wrote:I’ve never seen the victory formation with the qb in the shotgun before either. We don’t even go under center for that.

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That was really strange when they ended the game like that! It made very little sense. Why not just get under center???

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Post by **GeoAg** » October 17th, 2021, 10:19 am

Who cares. Going under center between the 20s isn't our problem

Roy McAvoy · Post by **Roy McAvoy** » October 17th, 2021, 10:25 am

GeoAg wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2021, 10:19 am
Who cares. Going under center between the 20s isn't our problem

I care because it’s an interesting observation to me. I asked a question because I’m curious. I never said it was a problem.

The whole point of a message board is discussing things like this. Not meeting it all with a lazy response of “who cares?”.

Post by **GeoAg** » October 17th, 2021, 10:31 am

Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2021, 10:25 am

GeoAg wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2021, 10:19 am
Who cares. Going under center between the 20s isn't our problem
I care because it’s an interesting observation to me. I asked a question because I’m curious. I never said it was a problem.

The whole point of a message board is discussing things like this. Not meeting it all with a lazy response of “who cares?”.

Well, in that case, it is the evolution of football over the past decade. Nearly everyone runs a spread with a zone read blocking scheme in which the QB is rarely if ever under center. The point is to give the QB a better vantage point to read the defense and to get the ball out on the pass faster by getting it back to 5 step drop depth more quickly.

It is crazy how long it has been since we've seen much work under center, but I think it is the same for most teams unless you are somebody like Wisconsin.

hickaggie · Post by **hickaggie** » October 17th, 2021, 1:26 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2021, 7:29 am

slcagg wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2021, 7:27 am
This past game. And we fumbled it.
I know I’m creating a lot of exceptions here, but I don’t really count a goal line package as to what I’m referencing.

I’m just talking straight up normal play, around midfield, not extenuating circumstances, and we get under center and run the ball.

I’m not complaining, just pointing out how crazy it is we’ve gone through this many OC’s with never really seeing it as a part of the offense at all.

They do not trust a snap under center right now. First time I can remember running victory formation out of shotgun. And unless they operate out of some other formation how effective would that be. QB goes under center, defense starts calling watch the play action. What else is there. QB sneak I guess.

Hoot · Post by **Hoot** » October 17th, 2021, 2:05 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑
October 17th, 2021, 7:18 am
Seriously. When was the last time we saw that play called? The QB goes under center and the play is a designed handoff through a certain hole in the line.

My memory is thinking it’s got to be back to like 2010. Is it really that long, or longer? Has it really never happened in 10+ seasons at Usu and about 8 different OC’s?

I see this undercover BYU fan has updated his vocabulary to be “we” instead of “they”.

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