What happened to AJ Vongphachanh?

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What happened to AJ Vongphachanh?

Post by jpswensen » September 23rd, 2021, 8:58 am

Is he hurt? Doghouse? Grades? Something else?

He looked like a rising start in last season's miserable performance, but I'm not sure I have seen him on the field yet this year.


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Re: What happened to AJ Vongphachanh?

Post by slcagg » September 23rd, 2021, 8:59 am

jpswensen wrote:
September 23rd, 2021, 8:58 am
Is he hurt? Doghouse? Grades? Something else?

He looked like a rising start in last season's miserable performance, but I'm not sure I have seen him on the field yet this year.
He is splitting time with Kevin metz. However I agree I expected him to grab that second linebacker position and be the main man next to Justin rice this year.
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Re: What happened to AJ Vongphachanh?

Post by Roy McAvoy » September 23rd, 2021, 9:03 am

jpswensen wrote:
September 23rd, 2021, 8:58 am
Is he hurt? Doghouse? Grades? Something else?

He looked like a rising start in last season's miserable performance, but I'm not sure I have seen him on the field yet this year.
I've wondered myself if he's hurt after splitting so many reps with Meitzenheimer. AJV has played plenty though and has 13 tackles on the season.



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Re: What happened to AJ Vongphachanh?

Post by AggieFBObsession » September 23rd, 2021, 9:16 am

They were playing him a lot in the AFA game with Metz and Rice on the field at the same time.



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Re: What happened to AJ Vongphachanh?

Post by GeoAg » September 23rd, 2021, 9:21 am

AJ has been playing a ton. You may have missed him due to his number change. He is now #10.
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Re: What happened to AJ Vongphachanh?

Post by hickaggie » September 23rd, 2021, 10:06 am

GeoAg wrote:
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AJ has been playing a ton. You may have missed him due to his number change. He is now #10.
Was he playing outside. I only saw him in on a play once in the second half and thought he was coming from the inside. However, when Metz blew that long TD they moved Gilliam inside for the next couple of series. I thought Gilliam would have stayed outside and AJV inside. I can't understand what issues he is having that he can't beat out Metz or that Gilliam is a better option at ILB?



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Re: What happened to AJ Vongphachanh?

Post by AggieFBObsession » September 23rd, 2021, 10:16 am

hickaggie wrote:
September 23rd, 2021, 10:06 am
GeoAg wrote:
September 23rd, 2021, 9:21 am
AJ has been playing a ton. You may have missed him due to his number change. He is now #10.
Was he playing outside. I only saw him in on a play once in the second half and thought he was coming from the inside. However, when Metz blew that long TD they moved Gilliam inside for the next couple of series. I thought Gilliam would have stayed outside and AJV inside. I can't understand what issues he is having that he can't beat out Metz or that Gilliam is a better option at ILB?
I don't think it's an issue of beating out Metz. They were playing 3 LBs at a time in the AFA game. And the rotation seems to be mostly 4LBs (Rice, AJV, Metz and Gilliam). Who else would you play in that 4-man rotation? Maile??

I've attached a photo from the first series of the game. You can see AJV starting on the far side of the field.

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Re: What happened to AJ Vongphachanh?

Post by slcagg » September 23rd, 2021, 10:28 am

AggieFBObsession wrote:
September 23rd, 2021, 10:16 am
hickaggie wrote:
September 23rd, 2021, 10:06 am
GeoAg wrote:
September 23rd, 2021, 9:21 am
AJ has been playing a ton. You may have missed him due to his number change. He is now #10.
Was he playing outside. I only saw him in on a play once in the second half and thought he was coming from the inside. However, when Metz blew that long TD they moved Gilliam inside for the next couple of series. I thought Gilliam would have stayed outside and AJV inside. I can't understand what issues he is having that he can't beat out Metz or that Gilliam is a better option at ILB?
I don't think it's an issue of beating out Metz. They were playing 3 LBs at a time in the AFA game. And the rotation seems to be mostly 4LBs (Rice, AJV, Metz and Gilliam). Who else would you play in that 4-man rotation? Maile??

I've attached a photo from the first series of the game. You can see AJV starting on the far side of the field.

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I think generally we play the two true linebackers at one time and line up cash or ajani as the specialty linebacker if you will. Air Force and their style of play is more of the exception to our standard sets.
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Re: What happened to AJ Vongphachanh?

Post by Sl7vk » September 23rd, 2021, 10:36 am

AJ had 7 tackles against AFA. That seems like a solid contribution to me.
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Re: What happened to AJ Vongphachanh?

Post by newhouse9 » September 23rd, 2021, 10:39 am

AJ's played a ton this year. I'm always happy to see him on the field.



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Re: What happened to AJ Vongphachanh?

Post by hickaggie » September 23rd, 2021, 10:41 am

Yeah they definitely were playing in an interesting way with AJV on the line in almost the old 5 2 4 look. No wonder AFA decided just to run counter through A gap the whole second half. It basically took 7-8 guys out of the play with as fast as it developed and half the time the MLB were following the decoy and making it 9 guys out of the play.

That we couldn't stop pitch with a 5 man front in the 1st half is mindblowing.
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Re: What happened to AJ Vongphachanh?

Post by AggieFBObsession » September 23rd, 2021, 10:42 am

hickaggie wrote:
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Yeah they definitely were playing in an interesting way with AJV on the line in almost the old 5 2 4 look. No wonder AFA decided just to run counter through A gap the whole second half. It basically took 7-8 guys out of the play with as fast as it developed and half the time the MLB were following the decoy and making it 9 guys out of the play.

That we couldn't stop pitch with a 5 man front in the 1st half is mindblowing.
Especially when we had no DBs to contain the edges.



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Re: What happened to AJ Vongphachanh?

Post by hickaggie » September 23rd, 2021, 11:05 am

AggieFBObsession wrote:
September 23rd, 2021, 10:42 am
hickaggie wrote:
September 23rd, 2021, 10:41 am
Yeah they definitely were playing in an interesting way with AJV on the line in almost the old 5 2 4 look. No wonder AFA decided just to run counter through A gap the whole second half. It basically took 7-8 guys out of the play with as fast as it developed and half the time the MLB were following the decoy and making it 9 guys out of the play.

That we couldn't stop pitch with a 5 man front in the 1st half is mindblowing.
Especially when we had no DBs to contain the edges.
I don't like the look of that front for the option at all come to think of it. I know AFA was playing their WOs tight on that particular play but assuming Heninger and AJV had QB that isn't the angle I would have had them in what is essentially a five man front. We already had 2 ILB so they should have been taken another step outside to cut off the QB at a better angle and force an earlier pitch.

Everything about a front 7 on D comes down to the leverage and angles you are taking and the position of both Heninger and AJV means they have to come straight downfield or at outside angle to the QB option as he is running outside 3-4 yards deep in the backfield rather than a direct line in off the edge. Its a lot easier to deal with a pitch that occurs inside the tackle box because it allows better angles for the ILB, the corner, and the safety.

Assuming they were supposed to help with pitch and MLB on their side had QB key they could have hit the pitch man before he got the ball every play if they stepped out a yard and that's not a bad way to play pitch as bad as our safeties and corners have played it. There seems no reason to run that tight as it destroyed their angles while still making them useless on the A gap runs.

It seems like that the way they lined was exactly the way AFA hoped they would in that formation.
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Re: What happened to AJ Vongphachanh?

Post by USU78 » September 23rd, 2021, 11:24 am

Hit the QB. Every down. Every situation. Hit him and hit him and hit him. Put him on the ground. Leave him there. Don't waste energy helping him up. You put him down there for a reason. And just hit him and hit him and hit him.
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Re: What happened to AJ Vongphachanh?

Post by aggies22 » September 23rd, 2021, 11:29 am

USU78 wrote:
September 23rd, 2021, 11:24 am
Hit the QB. Every down. Every situation. Hit him and hit him and hit him. Put him on the ground. Leave him there. Don't waste energy helping him up. You put him down there for a reason. And just hit him and hit him and hit him.
Isn't that the strategy Air Force used on us?



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Re: What happened to AJ Vongphachanh?

Post by USU78 » September 23rd, 2021, 11:44 am

aggies22 wrote:
September 23rd, 2021, 11:29 am
USU78 wrote:
September 23rd, 2021, 11:24 am
Hit the QB. Every down. Every situation. Hit him and hit him and hit him. Put him on the ground. Leave him there. Don't waste energy helping him up. You put him down there for a reason. And just hit him and hit him and hit him.
Isn't that the strategy Air Force used on us?
Well, it is sound strategy after all.
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Re: What happened to AJ Vongphachanh?

Post by IBleedAggieBlue » September 23rd, 2021, 12:20 pm

Hope he's learning from a master. He needs to become Rice 2.0. Plenty of tackles to go around.



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Post by NavyBlueAggie » September 23rd, 2021, 1:25 pm

USU78 wrote:
September 23rd, 2021, 11:24 am
Hit the QB. Every down. Every situation. Hit him and hit him and hit him. Put him on the ground. Leave him there. Don't waste energy helping him up. You put him down there for a reason. And just hit him and hit him and hit him.
Totally agree with your comment 78. Pound and hammer away until prior to each play the Q B is looking even before he hands the ball off.
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Post by NavyBlueAggie » September 23rd, 2021, 1:27 pm

USU78 wrote:
September 23rd, 2021, 11:44 am
aggies22 wrote:
September 23rd, 2021, 11:29 am
USU78 wrote:
September 23rd, 2021, 11:24 am
Hit the QB. Every down. Every situation. Hit him and hit him and hit him. Put him on the ground. Leave him there. Don't waste energy helping him up. You put him down there for a reason. And just hit him and hit him and hit him.
Isn't that the strategy Air Force used on us?
Well, it is sound strategy after all.
Just hit the Q B before the play is over. #49 enjoyed an officials waver of a personal foul and possible game ejection with his late play pounding of Bonner.
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Re: What happened to AJ Vongphachanh?

Post by Blitz79 » September 23rd, 2021, 5:28 pm

Yes, you hit the QB.

There are several that can happen you hit the QB in the option offense.

A) The QB is going to hate it and get hammered.
B) You make them commit earlier than they want to
C) You potentially rush their pitch and could get a turnover.
D) you take the indecisiveness of whomever is playing the end. Sometimes they freeze and don't play anyone.



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Re: What happened to AJ Vongphachanh?

Post by Elkaggie » September 23rd, 2021, 7:52 pm

IBleedAggieBlue wrote:
September 23rd, 2021, 12:20 pm
Hope he's learning from a master. He needs to become Rice 2.0. Plenty of tackles to go around.
Agree but I’m not sure he has the speed to do it.



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Re: What happened to AJ Vongphachanh?

Post by BeNo » September 24th, 2021, 9:06 am

GeoAg wrote:
September 23rd, 2021, 9:21 am
AJ has been playing a ton. You may have missed him due to his number change. He is now #10.
and his body looks like a LB now too versus before he looked more like a lineman.



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