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BustaMcNutt · Post by **BustaMcNutt** » July 12th, 2021, 10:05 pm

https://247sports.com/player/shawn-gates-46094645/

Anyone know anything about this guy? 247 has him enrolling yesterday.

BustaMcNutt · Post by **BustaMcNutt** » July 12th, 2021, 10:10 pm

Did more research….his Twitter claims he’s an Aggie. Signed with Boston College 6 months ago. Looks like a good pickup.

Post by **GeoAg** » July 12th, 2021, 10:12 pm

3 P5 offers and one of our top 5 all time recruits on 247. Plus a CB that is 6 feet. A lot to like with this guy. Looks like a great pick up

CaptainChaos · Post by **CaptainChaos** » July 12th, 2021, 10:23 pm

GeoAg wrote: ↑
July 12th, 2021, 10:12 pm
3 P5 offers and one of our top 5 all time recruits on 247. Plus a CB that is 6 feet. A lot to like with this guy. Looks like a great pick up

Bojay is the only one that has done anything of significance on that "all time" list though isn't he?

ROLLEOVERHORDEMANN · Post by **ROLLEOVERHORDEMANN** » July 12th, 2021, 10:53 pm

And the mighty WR London Rockwood is no longer listed.

Post by **aggies22** » July 12th, 2021, 10:58 pm

BustaMcNutt wrote: ↑
July 12th, 2021, 10:05 pm
https://247sports.com/player/shawn-gates-46094645/

Anyone know anything about this guy? 247 has him enrolling yesterday.

It's too late tonight but I'll find out about him in the morning.

Post by **aggies22** » July 12th, 2021, 10:58 pm

ROLLEOVERHORDEMAN wrote: ↑
July 12th, 2021, 10:53 pm
And the mighty WR London Rockwood is no longer listed.

Nope. He chose to walk away today as well.

Post by **aggies22** » July 12th, 2021, 10:59 pm

CaptainChaos wrote: ↑
July 12th, 2021, 10:23 pm

GeoAg wrote: ↑
July 12th, 2021, 10:12 pm
3 P5 offers and one of our top 5 all time recruits on 247. Plus a CB that is 6 feet. A lot to like with this guy. Looks like a great pick up
Bojay is the only one that has done anything of significance on that "all time" list though isn't he?

Give John Gentry some time. It'll happen.

Roy McAvoy · Post by **Roy McAvoy** » July 12th, 2021, 11:09 pm

BustaMcNutt wrote: ↑
July 12th, 2021, 10:10 pm
Did more research….his Twitter claims he’s an Aggie. Signed with Boston College 6 months ago. Looks like a good pickup.

I must admit, from the outside looking in I am shocked we keep bringing in more cornerbacks/DBs and not offensive lineman or Stryker/LB type guys.

I am excited about this pickup though.

BLUERUFiO · Post by **BLUERUFiO** » July 13th, 2021, 6:27 am

And the good news keeps coming with this football team. I can’t keep track of all our exciting, new players.

slcagg · Post by **slcagg** » July 13th, 2021, 6:52 am

Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑
July 12th, 2021, 11:09 pm

BustaMcNutt wrote: ↑
July 12th, 2021, 10:10 pm
Did more research….his Twitter claims he’s an Aggie. Signed with Boston College 6 months ago. Looks like a good pickup.
I must admit, from the outside looking in I am shocked we keep bringing in more cornerbacks/DBs and not offensive lineman or Stryker/LB type guys.

I am excited about this pickup though.

Take talent where you can. But agreed on the oline. We are thin there and is my greatest concern for 2021 success. Can we add some our oline commits a year early?

GameFAQSAggie · Post by **GameFAQSAggie** » July 13th, 2021, 8:34 am

Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑
July 12th, 2021, 11:09 pm

BustaMcNutt wrote: ↑
July 12th, 2021, 10:10 pm
Did more research….his Twitter claims he’s an Aggie. Signed with Boston College 6 months ago. Looks like a good pickup.
I must admit, from the outside looking in I am shocked we keep bringing in more cornerbacks/DBs and not offensive lineman or Stryker/LB type guys.

I am excited about this pickup though.

You have to think they are trying to get offensive linemen who would be upgrades over who we have returning. But they aren't going to bring in offensive linemen with only one year left who would struggle to beat out our returners just to bring in offensive linemen.

Part of it could be the fact that you don't really rotate offensive linemen an and out the way you do defensive players.

BigBlueDart · Post by **BigBlueDart** » July 13th, 2021, 9:39 am

Didn't GA and company move some guys from OL to DL? Could they move back? Or am I getting it backward?

Post by **GeoAg** » July 13th, 2021, 10:05 am

We have decent experience with 6 guys on the roster that have started D1 games...Alo, Aliifua, South, Edwards, White, and Knight. I am looking forward to seeing contributions from Dolphin, Motes and Owens. The guys across the board have gotten bigger where they needed to get bigger and gotten smaller where they needed to. This is new. Under GA, this wasn't happening and is a key indicator of OL development IMO. Examples are Alo going from 330 last year to 300 this year and Wade Meacham going from 290 to 310. I feel pretty good about it and think we will have decent depth. Next year we lose 4 and have 4 coming in so I think the numbers are good on the OL. I think we'll be much improved there. I know firsthand how much of a difference coaching can make in that position group.

For stryker, we have 1 position. we have 4 guys listed at OLB (which is stryker). I think we are a little light here as you want at least 4 scholie payers and I think we have 2 or 3. I also think we have some big safeties that can come over and play here like Tatum, Reynolds, or Carter. Not ideal, but we'll be ok. If there was one position of need I would put it here and we've had guys show up the last two days that could play here. That said, we need a huge year from Cash Gilliam.

Post by **aggies22** » July 13th, 2021, 10:21 am

BigBlueDart wrote: ↑
July 13th, 2021, 9:39 am
Didn't GA and company move some guys from OL to DL? Could they move back? Or am I getting it backward?

They flipped Mo Uasike from defense to offense and Mo was not pleased.

slcagg · Post by **slcagg** » July 13th, 2021, 10:29 am

aggies22 wrote: ↑
July 13th, 2021, 10:21 am

BigBlueDart wrote: ↑
July 13th, 2021, 9:39 am
Didn't GA and company move some guys from OL to DL? Could they move back? Or am I getting it backward?
They flipped Mo Uasike from defense to offense and Mo was not pleased.

Remember that time gary made our highest rated recruit in a long time move as a short middle linebacker to defensive tackle. That was great.

Post by **aggies22** » July 13th, 2021, 10:34 am

GeoAg wrote: ↑
July 13th, 2021, 10:05 am
We have decent experience with 6 guys on the roster that have started D1 games...Alo, Aliifua, South, Edwards, White, and Knight. I am looking forward to seeing contributions from Dolphin, Motes and Owens. The guys across the board have gotten bigger where they needed to get bigger and gotten smaller where they needed to. This is new. Under GA, this wasn't happening and is a key indicator of OL development IMO. Examples are Alo going from 330 last year to 300 this year and Wade Meacham going from 290 to 310. I feel pretty good about it and think we will have decent depth. Next year we lose 4 and have 4 coming in so I think the numbers are good on the OL. I think we'll be much improved there. I know firsthand how much of a difference coaching can make in that position group.

For stryker, we have 1 position. we have 4 guys listed at OLB (which is stryker). I think we are a little light here as you want at least 4 scholie payers and I think we have 2 or 3. I also think we have some big safeties that can come over and play here like Tatum, Reynolds, or Carter. Not ideal, but we'll be ok. If there was one position of need I would put it here and we've had guys show up the last two days that could play here. That said, we need a huge year from Cash Gilliam.

The experience along the offensive line is fine. What worries me is the lack of depth. With five positions across the line we SHOULD have AT LEAST three scholarship dudes at each spot and we do not. That concerns me, big time.

Your concerns at striker valid. Beyond Gilliam there is no proven experience. Patrick Maddox had a good spring but that's about it.

Post by **aggies22** » July 13th, 2021, 10:35 am

slcagg wrote: ↑
July 13th, 2021, 10:29 am

aggies22 wrote: ↑
July 13th, 2021, 10:21 am

BigBlueDart wrote: ↑
July 13th, 2021, 9:39 am
Didn't GA and company move some guys from OL to DL? Could they move back? Or am I getting it backward?
They flipped Mo Uasike from defense to offense and Mo was not pleased.

Remember that time gary made our highest rated recruit in a long time move as a short middle linebacker to defensive tackle. That was great.

Haha! That made me laugh out loud at my desk bro!

Post by **GeoAg** » July 13th, 2021, 10:44 am

aggies22 wrote: ↑
July 13th, 2021, 10:34 am

GeoAg wrote: ↑
July 13th, 2021, 10:05 am
We have decent experience with 6 guys on the roster that have started D1 games...Alo, Aliifua, South, Edwards, White, and Knight. I am looking forward to seeing contributions from Dolphin, Motes and Owens. The guys across the board have gotten bigger where they needed to get bigger and gotten smaller where they needed to. This is new. Under GA, this wasn't happening and is a key indicator of OL development IMO. Examples are Alo going from 330 last year to 300 this year and Wade Meacham going from 290 to 310. I feel pretty good about it and think we will have decent depth. Next year we lose 4 and have 4 coming in so I think the numbers are good on the OL. I think we'll be much improved there. I know firsthand how much of a difference coaching can make in that position group.

For stryker, we have 1 position. we have 4 guys listed at OLB (which is stryker). I think we are a little light here as you want at least 4 scholie payers and I think we have 2 or 3. I also think we have some big safeties that can come over and play here like Tatum, Reynolds, or Carter. Not ideal, but we'll be ok. If there was one position of need I would put it here and we've had guys show up the last two days that could play here. That said, we need a huge year from Cash Gilliam.
The experience along the offensive line is fine. What worries me is the lack of depth. With five positions across the line we SHOULD have AT LEAST three scholarship dudes at each spot and we do not. That concerns me, big time.

Your concerns at striker valid. Beyond Gilliam there is no proven experience. Patrick Maddox had a good spring but that's about it.

Given what we have coming in and what we are losing for next year, it doesn't look like they expect to carry that number of scholie OLs. Do you know what plans the staff has? Looks like we need about 3 more OL to get to the level you are thinking and we won't have that next year either unless we bring in more than we already have committed.

Roy McAvoy · Post by **Roy McAvoy** » July 13th, 2021, 10:55 am

slcagg wrote: ↑
July 13th, 2021, 10:29 am

aggies22 wrote: ↑
July 13th, 2021, 10:21 am

BigBlueDart wrote: ↑
July 13th, 2021, 9:39 am
Didn't GA and company move some guys from OL to DL? Could they move back? Or am I getting it backward?
They flipped Mo Uasike from defense to offense and Mo was not pleased.

Remember that time gary made our highest rated recruit in a long time move as a short middle linebacker to defensive tackle. That was great.

3 position changes I can think off the top of my head that never made sense to anyone and were also failures from a playing time/productivity standpoint.

Mo Uasike from DL to OL
Logan Lee from DE to TE
Christian Lavalle from LB to DT (this position change is actually what led to him transferring to Texas Tech)

slcagg · Post by **slcagg** » July 13th, 2021, 11:00 am

Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑
July 13th, 2021, 10:55 am

slcagg wrote: ↑
July 13th, 2021, 10:29 am

aggies22 wrote: ↑
July 13th, 2021, 10:21 am

BigBlueDart wrote: ↑
July 13th, 2021, 9:39 am
Didn't GA and company move some guys from OL to DL? Could they move back? Or am I getting it backward?
They flipped Mo Uasike from defense to offense and Mo was not pleased.

Remember that time gary made our highest rated recruit in a long time move as a short middle linebacker to defensive tackle. That was great.
3 position changes I can think off the top of my head that never made sense to anyone and were also failures from a playing time/productivity standpoint.

Mo Uasike from DL to OL
Logan Lee from DE to TE
Christian Lavalle from LB to DT (this position change is actually what led to him transferring to Texas Tech)

You are right. Anyone but the coaching staff. And no player produced following those changes.

Roy McAvoy · Post by **Roy McAvoy** » July 13th, 2021, 11:03 am

BustaMcNutt wrote: ↑
July 12th, 2021, 10:05 pm
https://247sports.com/player/shawn-gates-46094645/

Anyone know anything about this guy? 247 has him enrolling yesterday.

Another thought I just had is that I think bringing in Shawn Gates is the replacement for Cornelius Wright who we thought was going to commit but then backed out. Seems Wright has likely lost his opportunity to now.

Post by **aggies22** » July 13th, 2021, 11:10 am

GeoAg wrote: ↑
July 13th, 2021, 10:44 am

aggies22 wrote: ↑
July 13th, 2021, 10:34 am

GeoAg wrote: ↑
July 13th, 2021, 10:05 am
We have decent experience with 6 guys on the roster that have started D1 games...Alo, Aliifua, South, Edwards, White, and Knight. I am looking forward to seeing contributions from Dolphin, Motes and Owens. The guys across the board have gotten bigger where they needed to get bigger and gotten smaller where they needed to. This is new. Under GA, this wasn't happening and is a key indicator of OL development IMO. Examples are Alo going from 330 last year to 300 this year and Wade Meacham going from 290 to 310. I feel pretty good about it and think we will have decent depth. Next year we lose 4 and have 4 coming in so I think the numbers are good on the OL. I think we'll be much improved there. I know firsthand how much of a difference coaching can make in that position group.

For stryker, we have 1 position. we have 4 guys listed at OLB (which is stryker). I think we are a little light here as you want at least 4 scholie payers and I think we have 2 or 3. I also think we have some big safeties that can come over and play here like Tatum, Reynolds, or Carter. Not ideal, but we'll be ok. If there was one position of need I would put it here and we've had guys show up the last two days that could play here. That said, we need a huge year from Cash Gilliam.
The experience along the offensive line is fine. What worries me is the lack of depth. With five positions across the line we SHOULD have AT LEAST three scholarship dudes at each spot and we do not. That concerns me, big time.

Your concerns at striker valid. Beyond Gilliam there is no proven experience. Patrick Maddox had a good spring but that's about it.
Given what we have coming in and what we are losing for next year, it doesn't look like they expect to carry that number of scholie OLs. Do you know what plans the staff has? Looks like we need about 3 more OL to get to the level you are thinking and we won't have that next year either unless we bring in more than we already have committed.

I think we'll add one more before fall camp. IF we don't, I think we'll sign another 2022 kid. We also have an RM that will be in the 2022 class.

Post by **aggies22** » July 13th, 2021, 11:12 am

Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑
July 13th, 2021, 11:03 am

BustaMcNutt wrote: ↑
July 12th, 2021, 10:05 pm
https://247sports.com/player/shawn-gates-46094645/

Anyone know anything about this guy? 247 has him enrolling yesterday.
Another thought I just had is that I think bringing in Shawn Gates is the replacement for Cornelius Wright who we thought was going to commit but then backed out. Seems Wright has likely lost his opportunity to now.

You might be onto something BUT Wright lost his shot here the moment he backed off announcing a commitment.

Post by **aggies22** » July 13th, 2021, 11:20 am

BustaMcNutt wrote: ↑
July 12th, 2021, 10:05 pm
https://247sports.com/player/shawn-gates-46094645/

Anyone know anything about this guy? 247 has him enrolling yesterday.

Shawn signed with Boston College in December but changed his mind and asked out of his LOI. He had a connection with one of the members of our coaching staff and with him having 4 or 5 years of eligibility the decision was made to bring him in.

Roy McAvoy · Post by **Roy McAvoy** » July 13th, 2021, 12:14 pm

I've shared this before in other threads, but with where the conversation is I figured I'd post my updated visual 3-deep depth-chart I have that's a best guess based off watching spring practice and reports/depth charts aggies22 has given. (Again, I feel like we have to bring in a few more guys for depth on the OL.)

Post by **aggies22** » July 13th, 2021, 1:25 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑
July 13th, 2021, 12:14 pm
I've shared this before in other threads, but with where the conversation is I figured I'd post my updated visual 3-deep depth-chart I have that's a best guess based off watching spring practice and reports/depth charts aggies22 has given. (Again, I feel like we have to bring in a few more guys for depth on the OL.)

Now the problem along the offensive line is we just don't have the room scholarship wise to add anyone else.

slcagg · Post by **slcagg** » July 15th, 2021, 6:32 am

aggies22 wrote: ↑
July 13th, 2021, 1:25 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑
July 13th, 2021, 12:14 pm
I've shared this before in other threads, but with where the conversation is I figured I'd post my updated visual 3-deep depth-chart I have that's a best guess based off watching spring practice and reports/depth charts aggies22 has given. (Again, I feel like we have to bring in a few more guys for depth on the OL.)

Now the problem along the offensive line is we just don't have the room scholarship wise to add anyone else.

How do scholarships work with transfers out? When a guy transfers out does that mean it opens a spot in our recruiting numbers or no? I would assume it opens a spot for the 85 but maybe doesn’t change how many we can sign?

Post by **aggies22** » July 15th, 2021, 6:46 am

slcagg wrote: ↑
July 15th, 2021, 6:32 am

aggies22 wrote: ↑
July 13th, 2021, 1:25 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑
July 13th, 2021, 12:14 pm
I've shared this before in other threads, but with where the conversation is I figured I'd post my updated visual 3-deep depth-chart I have that's a best guess based off watching spring practice and reports/depth charts aggies22 has given. (Again, I feel like we have to bring in a few more guys for depth on the OL.)

Now the problem along the offensive line is we just don't have the room scholarship wise to add anyone else.
How do scholarships work with transfers out? When a guy transfers out does that mean it opens a spot in our recruiting numbers or no? I would assume it opens a spot for the 85 but maybe doesn’t change how many we can sign?

It does not change how many we can sign. We are still nearing our 2022 limit of 25 schollies. At this point any scholarship player that leaves opens up space in our unusually small 2023 class.

We are one of the few schools that have all 25 schollies available and we will fill them all.

BLUERUFiO · Post by **BLUERUFiO** » July 15th, 2021, 8:35 am

I love how everything unfolded to make it easier/faster for us to rebuild our roster. Good timing.

slcagg · Post by **slcagg** » July 18th, 2021, 6:47 am

Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑
July 12th, 2021, 11:09 pm

BustaMcNutt wrote: ↑
July 12th, 2021, 10:10 pm
Did more research….his Twitter claims he’s an Aggie. Signed with Boston College 6 months ago. Looks like a good pickup.
I must admit, from the outside looking in I am shocked we keep bringing in more cornerbacks/DBs and not offensive lineman or Stryker/LB type guys.

I am excited about this pickup though.

Looking at the roster we have 5 senior corners. Not sure if they all will leave this year with their extra year of eligibility but if they do we have a lot of spots to fill.

AggieFBObsession · Post by **AggieFBObsession** » July 18th, 2021, 8:16 am

Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑
July 13th, 2021, 12:14 pm
I've shared this before in other threads, but with where the conversation is I figured I'd post my updated visual 3-deep depth-chart I have that's a best guess based off watching spring practice and reports/depth charts aggies22 has given. (Again, I feel like we have to bring in a few more guys for depth on the OL.)

The job that the staff was given is a complete rebuild of the team. That's because Gary Andersen basically sabotaged the program in every way.

It's clear to me that this staff has made a commitment to fix the defense first. You can win if you hold your opponents to fewer than 30ppg. There's depth there and plenty of talent to compete at the highest level in the MWC. Maybe an issue at Stryker but that is basically the nickle position anyway. We have enough depth at safety and linebacker to fill a gap.

The offense is another story. The staff brought in players that could compete now at a couple of key positions, not the least of which is QB. That was the biggest priority to get us through 2021. Because of the scholarship limitations we couldn't fix this team in an instant. You also have to adapt based on who you can recruit. Rome wasn't built in a day. I fully expect this staff to recruit more for the future on offense. We already have seen that with the OL.

Anything that I'm missing? Go Aggies!

Post by **aggies22** » July 18th, 2021, 8:30 am

AggieFBObsession wrote: ↑
July 18th, 2021, 8:16 am

Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑
July 13th, 2021, 12:14 pm
I've shared this before in other threads, but with where the conversation is I figured I'd post my updated visual 3-deep depth-chart I have that's a best guess based off watching spring practice and reports/depth charts aggies22 has given. (Again, I feel like we have to bring in a few more guys for depth on the OL.)

The job that the staff was given is a complete rebuild of the team. That's because Gary Andersen basically sabotaged the program in every way.

It's clear to me that this staff has made a commitment to fix the defense first. You can win if you hold your opponents to fewer than 30ppg. There's depth there and plenty of talent to compete at the highest level in the MWC. Maybe an issue at Stryker but that is basically the nickle position anyway. We have enough depth at safety and linebacker to fill a gap.

The offense is another story. The staff brought in players that could compete now at a couple of key positions, not the least of which is QB. That was the biggest priority to get us through 2021. Because of the scholarship limitations we couldn't fix this team in an instant. You also have to adapt based on who you can recruit. Rome wasn't built in a day. I fully expect this staff to recruit more for the future on offense. We already have seen that with the OL.

Anything that I'm missing? Go Aggies!

The only thing I'm curious about is having 5 senior WRs and we have none committed and don't appear to be recruiting them very hard.

LoveMyAggies · Post by **LoveMyAggies** » July 18th, 2021, 9:45 am

aggies22 wrote:
AggieFBObsession wrote: ↑
July 18th, 2021, 8:16 am

Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑
July 13th, 2021, 12:14 pm
I've shared this before in other threads, but with where the conversation is I figured I'd post my updated visual 3-deep depth-chart I have that's a best guess based off watching spring practice and reports/depth charts aggies22 has given. (Again, I feel like we have to bring in a few more guys for depth on the OL.)

The job that the staff was given is a complete rebuild of the team. That's because Gary Andersen basically sabotaged the program in every way.

It's clear to me that this staff has made a commitment to fix the defense first. You can win if you hold your opponents to fewer than 30ppg. There's depth there and plenty of talent to compete at the highest level in the MWC. Maybe an issue at Stryker but that is basically the nickle position anyway. We have enough depth at safety and linebacker to fill a gap.

The offense is another story. The staff brought in players that could compete now at a couple of key positions, not the least of which is QB. That was the biggest priority to get us through 2021. Because of the scholarship limitations we couldn't fix this team in an instant. You also have to adapt based on who you can recruit. Rome wasn't built in a day. I fully expect this staff to recruit more for the future on offense. We already have seen that with the OL.

Anything that I'm missing? Go Aggies!
The only thing I'm curious about is having 5 senior WRs and we have none committed and don't appear to be recruiting them very hard.

I’m sorry if I’m stating the obvious, and correct me if I’m wrong, do any of these Senior WR get 1 more COVID year??

AggieFBObsession · Post by **AggieFBObsession** » July 18th, 2021, 9:58 am

aggies22 wrote: ↑
July 18th, 2021, 8:30 am
The only thing I'm curious about is having 5 senior WRs and we have none committed and don't appear to be recruiting them very hard.

That's equally a concern for me too, my dear Aggie brother.

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