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Re: Week One Spring Ball Depth Chart
I'll see if we have enough healthy bodies at the end of spring camp. Right now we are missing several offensive linemen, a few WRs, and we are down to 3 healthy safeties and 3 healthy cornerbacks. I try to give a good reflection of where we stand and right now I can't in several spots.
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Are any of the injuries long term that can affect summer and then fall camp?aggies22 wrote: ↑April 8th, 2021, 8:44 pmI'll see if we have enough healthy bodies at the end of spring camp. Right now we are missing several offensive linemen, a few WRs, and we are down to 3 healthy safeties and 3 healthy cornerbacks. I try to give a good reflection of where we stand and right now I can't in several spots.
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I wonder about the injuries in spring camp, certainly to the O linemen. What are the causes of these problems and can those events be modified or eliminated? Also I wonder about the coming season when players don't have weeks and months to recover from significant injuries. What then? Are these players just too big and oversized for their natural frames? I just wonder about all those injuries seemingly spread throughout the roster. Looking for insight here my friends. and thanks in advance.
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It does seem we are seeing more injuries this spring. It is for sure concerning. Hopefully they all can get healthy to have a good summer for preparation and be ready for fall camp.NavyBlueAggie wrote: ↑April 11th, 2021, 10:32 amI wonder about the injuries in spring camp, certainly to the O linemen. What are the causes of these problems and can those events be modified or eliminated? Also I wonder about the coming season when players don't have weeks and months to recover from significant injuries. What then? Are these players just too big and oversized for their natural frames? I just wonder about all those injuries seemingly spread throughout the roster. Looking for insight here my friends. and thanks in advance.
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Yeah it isaggies22 wrote: ↑March 21st, 2021, 7:47 amI do not. I don't know if they will just keep advancing them and they will one day reach super senior status. My depth charts reflect the players eligibility according to the eligibility freeze.GrandPoubah wrote: ↑March 20th, 2021, 9:12 pmCurious as to why our roster moved everyone up a year while others around the country kept their eligibility the same as last year. Anyone know the answer to that?aggies22 wrote: ↑March 20th, 2021, 3:01 pmIn the case of the defensive line, it doesn't really matter if you start or are on the second team. They line change like it's hockey so the first and second team guys will all see a TON of reps.GrandPoubah wrote: ↑March 20th, 2021, 1:01 pmWhat are the obvious depth chart changes you believe will happen? Definitely Moore will be a 1 or a co #1 on the Dline. Still trying to figure out why Hunter Hill can't rise up the charts. I see some movement on the Oline at the G and C positions. I believe one of the LGs will move to RG as well.aggies22 wrote: ↑March 20th, 2021, 8:10 amI guarantee this depth chart will change.slcagg wrote: ↑March 20th, 2021, 6:56 amThis is awesome work 22. Thanks for all that you do. Would expect this to change quite a bit in the next month and into fall camp. Hoping Bonner can get healthy soon.aggies22 wrote: ↑March 18th, 2021, 10:56 amHere is what I've put together as the depth chart after sitting through the first two days of practice.
https://247sports.com/college/utah-stat ... 162470986/
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Also, it looks like only some of the players "advanced" years. For example, Quazzel White (class of '17) shows:
2017 - freshman
2018 - rs freshman
2019 - sophmore
2020 - junior
2021 - junior again
Whereas, Alfred Edwards (class of '17) shows:
2017 - freshman
2018 - rs freshman
2019 - sophmore
2020 - junior
2021 - senior
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Re: Week One Spring Ball Depth Chart
This might be the best linebacker crew we've had since probably 2015. With Rice, Vongphachanh, Gilliam, and Heninger leading the group and guys like Meitzenheimer and Maile adding depth. If our d-line can get some pressure up from or at least eat up some blockers, those guys will be wreaking havoc!
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Heninger will be playing defensive end.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 1st, 2021, 1:48 amThis might be the best linebacker crew we've had since probably 2015. With Rice, Vongphachanh, Gilliam, and Heninger leading the group and guys like Meitzenheimer and Maile adding depth. If our d-line can get some pressure up from or at least eat up some blockers, those guys will be wreaking havoc!
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Which, it sure sounds like DL pressure is Banda’s MO.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 1st, 2021, 1:48 amThis might be the best linebacker crew we've had since probably 2015. With Rice, Vongphachanh, Gilliam, and Heninger leading the group and guys like Meitzenheimer and Maile adding depth. If our d-line can get some pressure up from or at least eat up some blockers, those guys will be wreaking havoc!
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Exclusively (as a hand-in-the dirt guy)? I know he played some OLB last year.aggies22 wrote: ↑May 1st, 2021, 9:21 amHeninger will be playing defensive end.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 1st, 2021, 1:48 amThis might be the best linebacker crew we've had since probably 2015. With Rice, Vongphachanh, Gilliam, and Heninger leading the group and guys like Meitzenheimer and Maile adding depth. If our d-line can get some pressure up from or at least eat up some blockers, those guys will be wreaking havoc!
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We are switching to a 4 lineman front. He fits as a DE in that scheme.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 2nd, 2021, 12:49 amExclusively (as a hand-in-the dirt guy)? I know he played some OLB last year.aggies22 wrote: ↑May 1st, 2021, 9:21 amHeninger will be playing defensive end.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 1st, 2021, 1:48 amThis might be the best linebacker crew we've had since probably 2015. With Rice, Vongphachanh, Gilliam, and Heninger leading the group and guys like Meitzenheimer and Maile adding depth. If our d-line can get some pressure up from or at least eat up some blockers, those guys will be wreaking havoc!
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Ahhhh, remember Tipa? That LB>DE transition didn't go so well. Why does Heninger fit as DE?slcagg wrote: ↑May 2nd, 2021, 7:09 amWe are switching to a 4 lineman front. He fits as a DE in that scheme.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 2nd, 2021, 12:49 amExclusively (as a hand-in-the dirt guy)? I know he played some OLB last year.aggies22 wrote: ↑May 1st, 2021, 9:21 amHeninger will be playing defensive end.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 1st, 2021, 1:48 amThis might be the best linebacker crew we've had since probably 2015. With Rice, Vongphachanh, Gilliam, and Heninger leading the group and guys like Meitzenheimer and Maile adding depth. If our d-line can get some pressure up from or at least eat up some blockers, those guys will be wreaking havoc!
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Good point. But didn’t heninger play there 2 years ago and was pretty good there?El Sapo wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 9:57 amAhhhh, remember Tipa? That LB>DE transition didn't go so well. Why does Heninger fit as DE?slcagg wrote: ↑May 2nd, 2021, 7:09 amWe are switching to a 4 lineman front. He fits as a DE in that scheme.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 2nd, 2021, 12:49 amExclusively (as a hand-in-the dirt guy)? I know he played some OLB last year.aggies22 wrote: ↑May 1st, 2021, 9:21 amHeninger will be playing defensive end.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 1st, 2021, 1:48 amThis might be the best linebacker crew we've had since probably 2015. With Rice, Vongphachanh, Gilliam, and Heninger leading the group and guys like Meitzenheimer and Maile adding depth. If our d-line can get some pressure up from or at least eat up some blockers, those guys will be wreaking havoc!
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Because regardless of what he was ever listed as, Tipa was only 215 to 220 pounds. Having a dude that size put his hand in the dirt and try to beat a 300+ pound offensive tackle was a recipe for disaster. He was swallowed up on most plays. The old staff completely neutralized one of our best players. Nick Heninger is already a legitimate 235 and will likely add more weight this summer in order to take the pounding on the defensive line.El Sapo wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 9:57 amAhhhh, remember Tipa? That LB>DE transition didn't go so well. Why does Heninger fit as DE?slcagg wrote: ↑May 2nd, 2021, 7:09 amWe are switching to a 4 lineman front. He fits as a DE in that scheme.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 2nd, 2021, 12:49 amExclusively (as a hand-in-the dirt guy)? I know he played some OLB last year.aggies22 wrote: ↑May 1st, 2021, 9:21 amHeninger will be playing defensive end.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 1st, 2021, 1:48 amThis might be the best linebacker crew we've had since probably 2015. With Rice, Vongphachanh, Gilliam, and Heninger leading the group and guys like Meitzenheimer and Maile adding depth. If our d-line can get some pressure up from or at least eat up some blockers, those guys will be wreaking havoc!
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Well said, plus Tipa was often doubled and got held A LOT but was rarely called that year (obviously more strength would have helped). What about Byron Vaughns the transfer from Texas? He is also listed as a DE but he looks more like an athletic OLB. How has he looked in camp?aggies22 wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 12:00 pmBecause regardless of what he was ever listed as, Tipa was only 215 to 220 pounds. Having a dude that size put his hand in the dirt and try to beat a 300+ pound offensive tackle was a recipe for disaster. He was swallowed up on most plays. The old staff completely neutralized one of our best players. Nick Heninger is already a legitimate 235 and will likely add more weight this summer in order to take the pounding on the defensive line.El Sapo wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 9:57 amAhhhh, remember Tipa? That LB>DE transition didn't go so well. Why does Heninger fit as DE?slcagg wrote: ↑May 2nd, 2021, 7:09 amWe are switching to a 4 lineman front. He fits as a DE in that scheme.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 2nd, 2021, 12:49 amExclusively (as a hand-in-the dirt guy)? I know he played some OLB last year.aggies22 wrote: ↑May 1st, 2021, 9:21 amHeninger will be playing defensive end.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 1st, 2021, 1:48 amThis might be the best linebacker crew we've had since probably 2015. With Rice, Vongphachanh, Gilliam, and Heninger leading the group and guys like Meitzenheimer and Maile adding depth. If our d-line can get some pressure up from or at least eat up some blockers, those guys will be wreaking havoc!
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I only attended the first scrimmage, but Vaughns was a beast to handle and was constantly beating his guy and in the back field. It is hard to guage based on that scrimmage, but he seems like he has the potential to make a large impact on the defense this year.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 12:24 pmWell said, plus Tipa was often doubled and got held A LOT but was rarely called that year (obviously more strength would have helped). What about Byron Vaughns the transfer from Texas? He is also listed as a DE but he looks more like an athletic OLB. How has he looked in camp?aggies22 wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 12:00 pmBecause regardless of what he was ever listed as, Tipa was only 215 to 220 pounds. Having a dude that size put his hand in the dirt and try to beat a 300+ pound offensive tackle was a recipe for disaster. He was swallowed up on most plays. The old staff completely neutralized one of our best players. Nick Heninger is already a legitimate 235 and will likely add more weight this summer in order to take the pounding on the defensive line.El Sapo wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 9:57 amAhhhh, remember Tipa? That LB>DE transition didn't go so well. Why does Heninger fit as DE?slcagg wrote: ↑May 2nd, 2021, 7:09 amWe are switching to a 4 lineman front. He fits as a DE in that scheme.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 2nd, 2021, 12:49 amExclusively (as a hand-in-the dirt guy)? I know he played some OLB last year.aggies22 wrote: ↑May 1st, 2021, 9:21 amHeninger will be playing defensive end.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 1st, 2021, 1:48 amThis might be the best linebacker crew we've had since probably 2015. With Rice, Vongphachanh, Gilliam, and Heninger leading the group and guys like Meitzenheimer and Maile adding depth. If our d-line can get some pressure up from or at least eat up some blockers, those guys will be wreaking havoc!
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By the end of the 2021 season everyone in the Mountain West Conference will know who Byron Hobbs-Vaughn is.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 12:24 pmWell said, plus Tipa was often doubled and got held A LOT but was rarely called that year (obviously more strength would have helped). What about Byron Vaughns the transfer from Texas? He is also listed as a DE but he looks more like an athletic OLB. How has he looked in camp?aggies22 wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 12:00 pmBecause regardless of what he was ever listed as, Tipa was only 215 to 220 pounds. Having a dude that size put his hand in the dirt and try to beat a 300+ pound offensive tackle was a recipe for disaster. He was swallowed up on most plays. The old staff completely neutralized one of our best players. Nick Heninger is already a legitimate 235 and will likely add more weight this summer in order to take the pounding on the defensive line.El Sapo wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 9:57 amAhhhh, remember Tipa? That LB>DE transition didn't go so well. Why does Heninger fit as DE?slcagg wrote: ↑May 2nd, 2021, 7:09 amWe are switching to a 4 lineman front. He fits as a DE in that scheme.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 2nd, 2021, 12:49 amExclusively (as a hand-in-the dirt guy)? I know he played some OLB last year.aggies22 wrote: ↑May 1st, 2021, 9:21 amHeninger will be playing defensive end.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 1st, 2021, 1:48 amThis might be the best linebacker crew we've had since probably 2015. With Rice, Vongphachanh, Gilliam, and Heninger leading the group and guys like Meitzenheimer and Maile adding depth. If our d-line can get some pressure up from or at least eat up some blockers, those guys will be wreaking havoc!
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Re: Week One Spring Ball Depth Chart
2 years ago Heninger looked like our best player on defense a lot of the time as a DE in the 4-3 defense. Next year, it seems there’s a decent chance he’s not even starting at DE.aggies22 wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 1:01 pmBy the end of the 2021 season everyone in the Mountain West Conference will know who Byron Hobbs-Vaughn is.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 12:24 pmWell said, plus Tipa was often doubled and got held A LOT but was rarely called that year (obviously more strength would have helped). What about Byron Vaughns the transfer from Texas? He is also listed as a DE but he looks more like an athletic OLB. How has he looked in camp?aggies22 wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 12:00 pmBecause regardless of what he was ever listed as, Tipa was only 215 to 220 pounds. Having a dude that size put his hand in the dirt and try to beat a 300+ pound offensive tackle was a recipe for disaster. He was swallowed up on most plays. The old staff completely neutralized one of our best players. Nick Heninger is already a legitimate 235 and will likely add more weight this summer in order to take the pounding on the defensive line.El Sapo wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 9:57 amAhhhh, remember Tipa? That LB>DE transition didn't go so well. Why does Heninger fit as DE?slcagg wrote: ↑May 2nd, 2021, 7:09 amWe are switching to a 4 lineman front. He fits as a DE in that scheme.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 2nd, 2021, 12:49 amExclusively (as a hand-in-the dirt guy)? I know he played some OLB last year.aggies22 wrote: ↑May 1st, 2021, 9:21 amHeninger will be playing defensive end.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 1st, 2021, 1:48 amThis might be the best linebacker crew we've had since probably 2015. With Rice, Vongphachanh, Gilliam, and Heninger leading the group and guys like Meitzenheimer and Maile adding depth. If our d-line can get some pressure up from or at least eat up some blockers, those guys will be wreaking havoc!
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Re: Week One Spring Ball Depth Chart
Don't forget about Justin Rice at LB. Our defense got some legitimate all league guys added to it.aggies22 wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 1:01 pmBy the end of the 2021 season everyone in the Mountain West Conference will know who Byron Hobbs-Vaughn is.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 12:24 pmWell said, plus Tipa was often doubled and got held A LOT but was rarely called that year (obviously more strength would have helped). What about Byron Vaughns the transfer from Texas? He is also listed as a DE but he looks more like an athletic OLB. How has he looked in camp?aggies22 wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 12:00 pmBecause regardless of what he was ever listed as, Tipa was only 215 to 220 pounds. Having a dude that size put his hand in the dirt and try to beat a 300+ pound offensive tackle was a recipe for disaster. He was swallowed up on most plays. The old staff completely neutralized one of our best players. Nick Heninger is already a legitimate 235 and will likely add more weight this summer in order to take the pounding on the defensive line.El Sapo wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 9:57 amAhhhh, remember Tipa? That LB>DE transition didn't go so well. Why does Heninger fit as DE?slcagg wrote: ↑May 2nd, 2021, 7:09 amWe are switching to a 4 lineman front. He fits as a DE in that scheme.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 2nd, 2021, 12:49 amExclusively (as a hand-in-the dirt guy)? I know he played some OLB last year.aggies22 wrote: ↑May 1st, 2021, 9:21 amHeninger will be playing defensive end.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 1st, 2021, 1:48 amThis might be the best linebacker crew we've had since probably 2015. With Rice, Vongphachanh, Gilliam, and Heninger leading the group and guys like Meitzenheimer and Maile adding depth. If our d-line can get some pressure up from or at least eat up some blockers, those guys will be wreaking havoc!
Question how did the interior of the dline look in spring? Too banged up to know?
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UgghEl Sapo wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 9:57 amAhhhh, remember Tipa? That LB>DE transition didn't go so well. Why does Heninger fit as DE?slcagg wrote: ↑May 2nd, 2021, 7:09 amWe are switching to a 4 lineman front. He fits as a DE in that scheme.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 2nd, 2021, 12:49 amExclusively (as a hand-in-the dirt guy)? I know he played some OLB last year.aggies22 wrote: ↑May 1st, 2021, 9:21 amHeninger will be playing defensive end.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 1st, 2021, 1:48 amThis might be the best linebacker crew we've had since probably 2015. With Rice, Vongphachanh, Gilliam, and Heninger leading the group and guys like Meitzenheimer and Maile adding depth. If our d-line can get some pressure up from or at least eat up some blockers, those guys will be wreaking havoc!
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That scheme completely neutered Tipa. I still don’t understand the logic of doing that to him. I hope this staff knows how to utilize players to their strengths and not force them to a position they can’t succeed at.Yossarian wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 3:45 pmUgghEl Sapo wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 9:57 amAhhhh, remember Tipa? That LB>DE transition didn't go so well. Why does Heninger fit as DE?slcagg wrote: ↑May 2nd, 2021, 7:09 amWe are switching to a 4 lineman front. He fits as a DE in that scheme.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 2nd, 2021, 12:49 amExclusively (as a hand-in-the dirt guy)? I know he played some OLB last year.aggies22 wrote: ↑May 1st, 2021, 9:21 amHeninger will be playing defensive end.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 1st, 2021, 1:48 amThis might be the best linebacker crew we've had since probably 2015. With Rice, Vongphachanh, Gilliam, and Heninger leading the group and guys like Meitzenheimer and Maile adding depth. If our d-line can get some pressure up from or at least eat up some blockers, those guys will be wreaking havoc!
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Reinforces my point that this year's LB core is going to be stacked!! Probably the best we've ever had (or at least since 2015). Can't wait!aggies22 wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 1:01 pmBy the end of the 2021 season everyone in the Mountain West Conference will know who Byron Hobbs-Vaughn is.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 12:24 pmWell said, plus Tipa was often doubled and got held A LOT but was rarely called that year (obviously more strength would have helped). What about Byron Vaughns the transfer from Texas? He is also listed as a DE but he looks more like an athletic OLB. How has he looked in camp?aggies22 wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 12:00 pmBecause regardless of what he was ever listed as, Tipa was only 215 to 220 pounds. Having a dude that size put his hand in the dirt and try to beat a 300+ pound offensive tackle was a recipe for disaster. He was swallowed up on most plays. The old staff completely neutralized one of our best players. Nick Heninger is already a legitimate 235 and will likely add more weight this summer in order to take the pounding on the defensive line.El Sapo wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 9:57 amAhhhh, remember Tipa? That LB>DE transition didn't go so well. Why does Heninger fit as DE?slcagg wrote: ↑May 2nd, 2021, 7:09 amWe are switching to a 4 lineman front. He fits as a DE in that scheme.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 2nd, 2021, 12:49 amExclusively (as a hand-in-the dirt guy)? I know he played some OLB last year.aggies22 wrote: ↑May 1st, 2021, 9:21 amHeninger will be playing defensive end.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 1st, 2021, 1:48 amThis might be the best linebacker crew we've had since probably 2015. With Rice, Vongphachanh, Gilliam, and Heninger leading the group and guys like Meitzenheimer and Maile adding depth. If our d-line can get some pressure up from or at least eat up some blockers, those guys will be wreaking havoc!
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They were solid early but injuries took it's toll. I never got a look at Jahaziel Lee.slcagg wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 3:02 pmDon't forget about Justin Rice at LB. Our defense got some legitimate all league guys added to it.aggies22 wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 1:01 pmBy the end of the 2021 season everyone in the Mountain West Conference will know who Byron Hobbs-Vaughn is.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 12:24 pmWell said, plus Tipa was often doubled and got held A LOT but was rarely called that year (obviously more strength would have helped). What about Byron Vaughns the transfer from Texas? He is also listed as a DE but he looks more like an athletic OLB. How has he looked in camp?aggies22 wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 12:00 pmBecause regardless of what he was ever listed as, Tipa was only 215 to 220 pounds. Having a dude that size put his hand in the dirt and try to beat a 300+ pound offensive tackle was a recipe for disaster. He was swallowed up on most plays. The old staff completely neutralized one of our best players. Nick Heninger is already a legitimate 235 and will likely add more weight this summer in order to take the pounding on the defensive line.El Sapo wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 9:57 amAhhhh, remember Tipa? That LB>DE transition didn't go so well. Why does Heninger fit as DE?slcagg wrote: ↑May 2nd, 2021, 7:09 amWe are switching to a 4 lineman front. He fits as a DE in that scheme.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 2nd, 2021, 12:49 amExclusively (as a hand-in-the dirt guy)? I know he played some OLB last year.aggies22 wrote: ↑May 1st, 2021, 9:21 amHeninger will be playing defensive end.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 1st, 2021, 1:48 amThis might be the best linebacker crew we've had since probably 2015. With Rice, Vongphachanh, Gilliam, and Heninger leading the group and guys like Meitzenheimer and Maile adding depth. If our d-line can get some pressure up from or at least eat up some blockers, those guys will be wreaking havoc!
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Nick vigil, Zach vigil and kyler fackrell would like a word.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 5:14 pmReinforces my point that this year's LB core is going to be stacked!! Probably the best we've ever had (or at least since 2015). Can't wait!aggies22 wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 1:01 pmBy the end of the 2021 season everyone in the Mountain West Conference will know who Byron Hobbs-Vaughn is.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 12:24 pmWell said, plus Tipa was often doubled and got held A LOT but was rarely called that year (obviously more strength would have helped). What about Byron Vaughns the transfer from Texas? He is also listed as a DE but he looks more like an athletic OLB. How has he looked in camp?aggies22 wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 12:00 pmBecause regardless of what he was ever listed as, Tipa was only 215 to 220 pounds. Having a dude that size put his hand in the dirt and try to beat a 300+ pound offensive tackle was a recipe for disaster. He was swallowed up on most plays. The old staff completely neutralized one of our best players. Nick Heninger is already a legitimate 235 and will likely add more weight this summer in order to take the pounding on the defensive line.El Sapo wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 9:57 amAhhhh, remember Tipa? That LB>DE transition didn't go so well. Why does Heninger fit as DE?slcagg wrote: ↑May 2nd, 2021, 7:09 amWe are switching to a 4 lineman front. He fits as a DE in that scheme.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 2nd, 2021, 12:49 amExclusively (as a hand-in-the dirt guy)? I know he played some OLB last year.aggies22 wrote: ↑May 1st, 2021, 9:21 amHeninger will be playing defensive end.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 1st, 2021, 1:48 amThis might be the best linebacker crew we've had since probably 2015. With Rice, Vongphachanh, Gilliam, and Heninger leading the group and guys like Meitzenheimer and Maile adding depth. If our d-line can get some pressure up from or at least eat up some blockers, those guys will be wreaking havoc!
Probably a line up with Bobby Wagner as well.
But I’m excited as well.
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Lee is the one I was hoping you had a good look at!aggies22 wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 5:18 pmThey were solid early but injuries took it's toll. I never got a look at Jahaziel Lee.slcagg wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 3:02 pmDon't forget about Justin Rice at LB. Our defense got some legitimate all league guys added to it.aggies22 wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 1:01 pmBy the end of the 2021 season everyone in the Mountain West Conference will know who Byron Hobbs-Vaughn is.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 12:24 pmWell said, plus Tipa was often doubled and got held A LOT but was rarely called that year (obviously more strength would have helped). What about Byron Vaughns the transfer from Texas? He is also listed as a DE but he looks more like an athletic OLB. How has he looked in camp?aggies22 wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 12:00 pmBecause regardless of what he was ever listed as, Tipa was only 215 to 220 pounds. Having a dude that size put his hand in the dirt and try to beat a 300+ pound offensive tackle was a recipe for disaster. He was swallowed up on most plays. The old staff completely neutralized one of our best players. Nick Heninger is already a legitimate 235 and will likely add more weight this summer in order to take the pounding on the defensive line.El Sapo wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 9:57 amAhhhh, remember Tipa? That LB>DE transition didn't go so well. Why does Heninger fit as DE?slcagg wrote: ↑May 2nd, 2021, 7:09 amWe are switching to a 4 lineman front. He fits as a DE in that scheme.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 2nd, 2021, 12:49 amExclusively (as a hand-in-the dirt guy)? I know he played some OLB last year.aggies22 wrote: ↑May 1st, 2021, 9:21 amHeninger will be playing defensive end.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 1st, 2021, 1:48 amThis might be the best linebacker crew we've had since probably 2015. With Rice, Vongphachanh, Gilliam, and Heninger leading the group and guys like Meitzenheimer and Maile adding depth. If our d-line can get some pressure up from or at least eat up some blockers, those guys will be wreaking havoc!
Question how did the interior of the dline look in spring? Too banged up to know?
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Yea 2015.slcagg wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 5:29 pmNick vigil, Zach vigil and kyler fackrell would like a word.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 5:14 pmReinforces my point that this year's LB core is going to be stacked!! Probably the best we've ever had (or at least since 2015). Can't wait!aggies22 wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 1:01 pmBy the end of the 2021 season everyone in the Mountain West Conference will know who Byron Hobbs-Vaughn is.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 12:24 pmWell said, plus Tipa was often doubled and got held A LOT but was rarely called that year (obviously more strength would have helped). What about Byron Vaughns the transfer from Texas? He is also listed as a DE but he looks more like an athletic OLB. How has he looked in camp?aggies22 wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 12:00 pmBecause regardless of what he was ever listed as, Tipa was only 215 to 220 pounds. Having a dude that size put his hand in the dirt and try to beat a 300+ pound offensive tackle was a recipe for disaster. He was swallowed up on most plays. The old staff completely neutralized one of our best players. Nick Heninger is already a legitimate 235 and will likely add more weight this summer in order to take the pounding on the defensive line.El Sapo wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 9:57 amAhhhh, remember Tipa? That LB>DE transition didn't go so well. Why does Heninger fit as DE?slcagg wrote: ↑May 2nd, 2021, 7:09 amWe are switching to a 4 lineman front. He fits as a DE in that scheme.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 2nd, 2021, 12:49 amExclusively (as a hand-in-the dirt guy)? I know he played some OLB last year.aggies22 wrote: ↑May 1st, 2021, 9:21 amHeninger will be playing defensive end.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 1st, 2021, 1:48 amThis might be the best linebacker crew we've had since probably 2015. With Rice, Vongphachanh, Gilliam, and Heninger leading the group and guys like Meitzenheimer and Maile adding depth. If our d-line can get some pressure up from or at least eat up some blockers, those guys will be wreaking havoc!
Probably a line up with Bobby Wagner as well.
But I’m excited as well.
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Oh missed that!OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 5:31 pmYea 2015.slcagg wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 5:29 pmNick vigil, Zach vigil and kyler fackrell would like a word.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 5:14 pmReinforces my point that this year's LB core is going to be stacked!! Probably the best we've ever had (or at least since 2015). Can't wait!aggies22 wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 1:01 pmBy the end of the 2021 season everyone in the Mountain West Conference will know who Byron Hobbs-Vaughn is.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 12:24 pmWell said, plus Tipa was often doubled and got held A LOT but was rarely called that year (obviously more strength would have helped). What about Byron Vaughns the transfer from Texas? He is also listed as a DE but he looks more like an athletic OLB. How has he looked in camp?aggies22 wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 12:00 pmBecause regardless of what he was ever listed as, Tipa was only 215 to 220 pounds. Having a dude that size put his hand in the dirt and try to beat a 300+ pound offensive tackle was a recipe for disaster. He was swallowed up on most plays. The old staff completely neutralized one of our best players. Nick Heninger is already a legitimate 235 and will likely add more weight this summer in order to take the pounding on the defensive line.El Sapo wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 9:57 amAhhhh, remember Tipa? That LB>DE transition didn't go so well. Why does Heninger fit as DE?slcagg wrote: ↑May 2nd, 2021, 7:09 amWe are switching to a 4 lineman front. He fits as a DE in that scheme.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 2nd, 2021, 12:49 amExclusively (as a hand-in-the dirt guy)? I know he played some OLB last year.aggies22 wrote: ↑May 1st, 2021, 9:21 amHeninger will be playing defensive end.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 1st, 2021, 1:48 amThis might be the best linebacker crew we've had since probably 2015. With Rice, Vongphachanh, Gilliam, and Heninger leading the group and guys like Meitzenheimer and Maile adding depth. If our d-line can get some pressure up from or at least eat up some blockers, those guys will be wreaking havoc!
Probably a line up with Bobby Wagner as well.
But I’m excited as well.
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That's an interesting debate:slcagg wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 5:29 pmNick vigil, Zach vigil and kyler fackrell would like a word.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 5:14 pmReinforces my point that this year's LB core is going to be stacked!! Probably the best we've ever had (or at least since 2015). Can't wait!aggies22 wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 1:01 pmBy the end of the 2021 season everyone in the Mountain West Conference will know who Byron Hobbs-Vaughn is.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 12:24 pmWell said, plus Tipa was often doubled and got held A LOT but was rarely called that year (obviously more strength would have helped). What about Byron Vaughns the transfer from Texas? He is also listed as a DE but he looks more like an athletic OLB. How has he looked in camp?aggies22 wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 12:00 pmBecause regardless of what he was ever listed as, Tipa was only 215 to 220 pounds. Having a dude that size put his hand in the dirt and try to beat a 300+ pound offensive tackle was a recipe for disaster. He was swallowed up on most plays. The old staff completely neutralized one of our best players. Nick Heninger is already a legitimate 235 and will likely add more weight this summer in order to take the pounding on the defensive line.El Sapo wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 9:57 amAhhhh, remember Tipa? That LB>DE transition didn't go so well. Why does Heninger fit as DE?slcagg wrote: ↑May 2nd, 2021, 7:09 amWe are switching to a 4 lineman front. He fits as a DE in that scheme.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 2nd, 2021, 12:49 amExclusively (as a hand-in-the dirt guy)? I know he played some OLB last year.aggies22 wrote: ↑May 1st, 2021, 9:21 amHeninger will be playing defensive end.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 1st, 2021, 1:48 amThis might be the best linebacker crew we've had since probably 2015. With Rice, Vongphachanh, Gilliam, and Heninger leading the group and guys like Meitzenheimer and Maile adding depth. If our d-line can get some pressure up from or at least eat up some blockers, those guys will be wreaking havoc!
Probably a line up with Bobby Wagner as well.
But I’m excited as well.
2010's team had a linebacker corps of:
Bobby Wagner
Jake Doughty
Zach Vigil
Kyle Gallagher
Junior Keiaho
Matt Ah You
Maxim Dinka
That was a solid group.
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Re: Week One Spring Ball Depth Chart
And Zach Vigil was on the bench and only played as a special teams guy.Yossarian wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 6:35 pmThat's an interesting debate:slcagg wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 5:29 pmNick vigil, Zach vigil and kyler fackrell would like a word.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 5:14 pmReinforces my point that this year's LB core is going to be stacked!! Probably the best we've ever had (or at least since 2015). Can't wait!aggies22 wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 1:01 pmBy the end of the 2021 season everyone in the Mountain West Conference will know who Byron Hobbs-Vaughn is.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 12:24 pmWell said, plus Tipa was often doubled and got held A LOT but was rarely called that year (obviously more strength would have helped). What about Byron Vaughns the transfer from Texas? He is also listed as a DE but he looks more like an athletic OLB. How has he looked in camp?aggies22 wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 12:00 pmBecause regardless of what he was ever listed as, Tipa was only 215 to 220 pounds. Having a dude that size put his hand in the dirt and try to beat a 300+ pound offensive tackle was a recipe for disaster. He was swallowed up on most plays. The old staff completely neutralized one of our best players. Nick Heninger is already a legitimate 235 and will likely add more weight this summer in order to take the pounding on the defensive line.El Sapo wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 9:57 amAhhhh, remember Tipa? That LB>DE transition didn't go so well. Why does Heninger fit as DE?slcagg wrote: ↑May 2nd, 2021, 7:09 amWe are switching to a 4 lineman front. He fits as a DE in that scheme.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 2nd, 2021, 12:49 amExclusively (as a hand-in-the dirt guy)? I know he played some OLB last year.aggies22 wrote: ↑May 1st, 2021, 9:21 amHeninger will be playing defensive end.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 1st, 2021, 1:48 amThis might be the best linebacker crew we've had since probably 2015. With Rice, Vongphachanh, Gilliam, and Heninger leading the group and guys like Meitzenheimer and Maile adding depth. If our d-line can get some pressure up from or at least eat up some blockers, those guys will be wreaking havoc!
Probably a line up with Bobby Wagner as well.
But I’m excited as well.
2010's team had a linebacker corps of:
Bobby Wagner
Jake Doughty
Zach Vigil
Kyle Gallagher
Junior Keiaho
Matt Ah You
Maxim Dinka
That was a solid group.
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Re: Week One Spring Ball Depth Chart
Sorry, I see Jake Doughty's name and I think of one thing.Yossarian wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 6:35 pmThat's an interesting debate:slcagg wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 5:29 pmNick vigil, Zach vigil and kyler fackrell would like a word.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 5:14 pmReinforces my point that this year's LB core is going to be stacked!! Probably the best we've ever had (or at least since 2015). Can't wait!aggies22 wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 1:01 pmBy the end of the 2021 season everyone in the Mountain West Conference will know who Byron Hobbs-Vaughn is.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 12:24 pmWell said, plus Tipa was often doubled and got held A LOT but was rarely called that year (obviously more strength would have helped). What about Byron Vaughns the transfer from Texas? He is also listed as a DE but he looks more like an athletic OLB. How has he looked in camp?aggies22 wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 12:00 pmBecause regardless of what he was ever listed as, Tipa was only 215 to 220 pounds. Having a dude that size put his hand in the dirt and try to beat a 300+ pound offensive tackle was a recipe for disaster. He was swallowed up on most plays. The old staff completely neutralized one of our best players. Nick Heninger is already a legitimate 235 and will likely add more weight this summer in order to take the pounding on the defensive line.El Sapo wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 9:57 amAhhhh, remember Tipa? That LB>DE transition didn't go so well. Why does Heninger fit as DE?slcagg wrote: ↑May 2nd, 2021, 7:09 amWe are switching to a 4 lineman front. He fits as a DE in that scheme.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 2nd, 2021, 12:49 amExclusively (as a hand-in-the dirt guy)? I know he played some OLB last year.aggies22 wrote: ↑May 1st, 2021, 9:21 amHeninger will be playing defensive end.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 1st, 2021, 1:48 amThis might be the best linebacker crew we've had since probably 2015. With Rice, Vongphachanh, Gilliam, and Heninger leading the group and guys like Meitzenheimer and Maile adding depth. If our d-line can get some pressure up from or at least eat up some blockers, those guys will be wreaking havoc!
Probably a line up with Bobby Wagner as well.
But I’m excited as well.
2010's team had a linebacker corps of:
Bobby Wagner
Jake Doughty
Zach Vigil
Kyle Gallagher
Junior Keiaho
Matt Ah You
Maxim Dinka
That was a solid group.
I replayed the Auburn v USU on-side kick over 20 times to see what happened. BWags blocked 2 Auburn players from getting to the ball by himself. Doughty completely whiffed. If he just gets in the way of somebody, we recover the ball and win that game. I don't blame him. It didn't look like he was the only one who had no clue what to do. Obviously, GA never lined up a team to defend an on-side kick in practice.
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Is on-side kick coverage given a lot of time in practices leading up to the first game of the year against the defending National Champion? That might have come later?El Sapo wrote: ↑May 5th, 2021, 4:43 pmSorry, I see Jake Doughty's name and I think of one thing.Yossarian wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 6:35 pmThat's an interesting debate:slcagg wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 5:29 pmNick vigil, Zach vigil and kyler fackrell would like a word.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 5:14 pmReinforces my point that this year's LB core is going to be stacked!! Probably the best we've ever had (or at least since 2015). Can't wait!aggies22 wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 1:01 pmBy the end of the 2021 season everyone in the Mountain West Conference will know who Byron Hobbs-Vaughn is.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 12:24 pmWell said, plus Tipa was often doubled and got held A LOT but was rarely called that year (obviously more strength would have helped). What about Byron Vaughns the transfer from Texas? He is also listed as a DE but he looks more like an athletic OLB. How has he looked in camp?aggies22 wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 12:00 pmBecause regardless of what he was ever listed as, Tipa was only 215 to 220 pounds. Having a dude that size put his hand in the dirt and try to beat a 300+ pound offensive tackle was a recipe for disaster. He was swallowed up on most plays. The old staff completely neutralized one of our best players. Nick Heninger is already a legitimate 235 and will likely add more weight this summer in order to take the pounding on the defensive line.El Sapo wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 9:57 amAhhhh, remember Tipa? That LB>DE transition didn't go so well. Why does Heninger fit as DE?slcagg wrote: ↑May 2nd, 2021, 7:09 amWe are switching to a 4 lineman front. He fits as a DE in that scheme.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 2nd, 2021, 12:49 amExclusively (as a hand-in-the dirt guy)? I know he played some OLB last year.aggies22 wrote: ↑May 1st, 2021, 9:21 amHeninger will be playing defensive end.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 1st, 2021, 1:48 amThis might be the best linebacker crew we've had since probably 2015. With Rice, Vongphachanh, Gilliam, and Heninger leading the group and guys like Meitzenheimer and Maile adding depth. If our d-line can get some pressure up from or at least eat up some blockers, those guys will be wreaking havoc!
Probably a line up with Bobby Wagner as well.
But I’m excited as well.
2010's team had a linebacker corps of:
Bobby Wagner
Jake Doughty
Zach Vigil
Kyle Gallagher
Junior Keiaho
Matt Ah You
Maxim Dinka
That was a solid group.
I replayed the Auburn v USU on-side kick over 20 times to see what happened. BWags blocked 2 Auburn players from getting to the ball by himself. Doughty completely whiffed. If he just gets in the way of somebody, we recover the ball and win that game. I don't blame him. It didn't look like he was the only one who had no clue what to do. Obviously, GA never lined up a team to defend an on-side kick in practice.
I would bet that the majority of freshmen that come in have never been involved in an onside kick in high school or even practiced one, for that matter.
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Lol when I think of Doughty I think of a onside kick too... but a different onside kick. My next thought usually has something to do with a shopping cart.El Sapo wrote: ↑May 5th, 2021, 4:43 pmSorry, I see Jake Doughty's name and I think of one thing.Yossarian wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 6:35 pmThat's an interesting debate:slcagg wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 5:29 pmNick vigil, Zach vigil and kyler fackrell would like a word.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 5:14 pmReinforces my point that this year's LB core is going to be stacked!! Probably the best we've ever had (or at least since 2015). Can't wait!aggies22 wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 1:01 pmBy the end of the 2021 season everyone in the Mountain West Conference will know who Byron Hobbs-Vaughn is.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 12:24 pmWell said, plus Tipa was often doubled and got held A LOT but was rarely called that year (obviously more strength would have helped). What about Byron Vaughns the transfer from Texas? He is also listed as a DE but he looks more like an athletic OLB. How has he looked in camp?aggies22 wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 12:00 pmBecause regardless of what he was ever listed as, Tipa was only 215 to 220 pounds. Having a dude that size put his hand in the dirt and try to beat a 300+ pound offensive tackle was a recipe for disaster. He was swallowed up on most plays. The old staff completely neutralized one of our best players. Nick Heninger is already a legitimate 235 and will likely add more weight this summer in order to take the pounding on the defensive line.El Sapo wrote: ↑May 4th, 2021, 9:57 amAhhhh, remember Tipa? That LB>DE transition didn't go so well. Why does Heninger fit as DE?slcagg wrote: ↑May 2nd, 2021, 7:09 amWe are switching to a 4 lineman front. He fits as a DE in that scheme.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 2nd, 2021, 12:49 amExclusively (as a hand-in-the dirt guy)? I know he played some OLB last year.aggies22 wrote: ↑May 1st, 2021, 9:21 amHeninger will be playing defensive end.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑May 1st, 2021, 1:48 amThis might be the best linebacker crew we've had since probably 2015. With Rice, Vongphachanh, Gilliam, and Heninger leading the group and guys like Meitzenheimer and Maile adding depth. If our d-line can get some pressure up from or at least eat up some blockers, those guys will be wreaking havoc!
Probably a line up with Bobby Wagner as well.
But I’m excited as well.
2010's team had a linebacker corps of:
Bobby Wagner
Jake Doughty
Zach Vigil
Kyle Gallagher
Junior Keiaho
Matt Ah You
Maxim Dinka
That was a solid group.
I replayed the Auburn v USU on-side kick over 20 times to see what happened. BWags blocked 2 Auburn players from getting to the ball by himself. Doughty completely whiffed. If he just gets in the way of somebody, we recover the ball and win that game. I don't blame him. It didn't look like he was the only one who had no clue what to do. Obviously, GA never lined up a team to defend an on-side kick in practice.
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And that is EXACTLY why, being just one example, I argue that GA, even in his first stint, was not that great of an in-game adjusting coach, and accomplished what he did cause of how great he was recruiting and developing players IN SPITE of being a poor in-game adjuster.
It likewise was an accomplishment he built our program to getting the big wins in 2012 over Utah and LA Tech, but those were wins we got IN SPITE of his poor in-game adjusting, rather than cause of it.
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Craig Smith had that going for him also.GameFAQSAggie wrote: ↑May 5th, 2021, 7:11 pmAnd that is EXACTLY why, being just one example, I argue that GA, even in his first stint, was not that great of an in-game adjusting coach, and accomplished what he did cause of how great he was recruiting and developing players IN SPITE of being a poor in-game adjuster.
It likewise was an accomplishment he built our program to getting the big wins in 2012 over Utah and LA Tech, but those were wins we got IN SPITE of his poor in-game adjusting, rather than cause of it.