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I still don't get how that was a rational option on the table. But if it was they needed to do it Tuesday and they needed to report exactly what was said and the context that it was said. There is nothing that can be said by anyone that warrants not playing the game you love. The solution lies in a myriad of options. If it was bad enough for what they have done, the mere subtantiated report would have Cockett fired by now so the refusal to make the exact allegations public while taking such an insane action is what speaks volumes to me.MWCFAN12 wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 4:46 pmThe fact they did vote to not play should tell you just how bad it was. Think about it .. A entire team. I spent 30 years in and round team sports. There would always be a few guys who would say. " who cares lets just play" to something like that.... ALWAYS.... but there isn't. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM FELT THE NEED TO SIT OUT.. ALL OF THEM.... that speaks volumes to me.hickaggie wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 4:41 pmThen why would you choose this route as your form of protest. It only harms themselves, Maile, and a conference mate. They didn't think this through at all. They needed to make the comments public exactly how they were expressed and do their protesting and whatever social justice canceling is done these days in a normal fashion. YOU DON'T REFUSE TO PLAY A FOOTBALL GAME. THATS INSANE.MWCFAN12 wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 4:38 pmThis 100000000 times. If you have ever looked for a reason to not play a game. You really shouldn't be in or around sports. You are doing it for the wrong reasons and you are going to get yourself or a teammate, or kid ( if you are a coach) hurt.taniataylor wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 4:08 pmI GUARANTEE they weren’t looking for a reason not to play
I cant imagine anything that would make me feel like I need a excuse not to play.
If fact I bet it was the opposite. This was a damn hard decision to make, but right is right and wrong is wrong. I bet there were tear and broken hearts over this. As there should have been. No way that was a easy decison much less a way out.
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Re: Players voted against playing because of comments by President Cockett
We only expect it because we know who you are. Worthless.ajwildcat wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 3:43 pmAfter sitting back and reading all the comments on how superior USU supposedly is, well you have to expect WSU and BYU fans to pile on. At least my team isnt in the national media for all the wrong reasons.taniataylor wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 3:41 pmGo away, this is not your timeajwildcat wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 3:37 pmWOW!!! I mean I knew your program was a dumpster fire but good hell this is bad....
Administration being accused of racial and religious bias, really not good.
Tell me again how USU is such a superior program to Weber State....
Im betting Jay Hill is saying prayers of thanks that he didnt get that job
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Re: Players voted against playing because of comments by President Cockett
The Tribune report said that 3/4 of the players opted not to play.
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Re: Players voted against playing because of comments by President Cockett
i think the rational of this option is that covid put sittin out a game on the table. Also, my thoughts, if they all don't have the option to come back next year this decision doesn't happen.hickaggie wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 4:51 pmI still don't get how that was a rational option on the table. But if it was they needed to do it Tuesday and they needed to report exactly what was said and the context that it was said. There is nothing that can be said by anyone that warrants not playing the game you love. The solution lies in a myriad of options. If it was bad enough for what they have done, the mere subtantiated report would have Cockett fired by now so the refusal to make the exact allegations public while taking such an insane action is what speaks volumes to me.MWCFAN12 wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 4:46 pmThe fact they did vote to not play should tell you just how bad it was. Think about it .. A entire team. I spent 30 years in and round team sports. There would always be a few guys who would say. " who cares lets just play" to something like that.... ALWAYS.... but there isn't. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM FELT THE NEED TO SIT OUT.. ALL OF THEM.... that speaks volumes to me.hickaggie wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 4:41 pmThen why would you choose this route as your form of protest. It only harms themselves, Maile, and a conference mate. They didn't think this through at all. They needed to make the comments public exactly how they were expressed and do their protesting and whatever social justice canceling is done these days in a normal fashion. YOU DON'T REFUSE TO PLAY A FOOTBALL GAME. THATS INSANE.MWCFAN12 wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 4:38 pmThis 100000000 times. If you have ever looked for a reason to not play a game. You really shouldn't be in or around sports. You are doing it for the wrong reasons and you are going to get yourself or a teammate, or kid ( if you are a coach) hurt.taniataylor wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 4:08 pmI GUARANTEE they weren’t looking for a reason not to play
I cant imagine anything that would make me feel like I need a excuse not to play.
If fact I bet it was the opposite. This was a damn hard decision to make, but right is right and wrong is wrong. I bet there were tear and broken hearts over this. As there should have been. No way that was a easy decison much less a way out.
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Re: Players voted against playing because of comments by President Cockett
That is the part I have a hard time understanding. If the meeting was on Tuesday and these things are true but we didn't hear anything until Friday that just seems outrageous to me. Especially in the days of social media, you can have somebody fired within a couple of hours why would we have waited 3 days if these accusations were true.hickaggie wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 4:51 pmI still don't get how that was a rational option on the table. But if it was they needed to do it Tuesday and they needed to report exactly what was said and the context that it was said. There is nothing that can be said by anyone that warrants not playing the game you love. The solution lies in a myriad of options. If it was bad enough for what they have done, the mere subtantiated report would have Cockett fired by now so the refusal to make the exact allegations public while taking such an insane action is what speaks volumes to me.MWCFAN12 wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 4:46 pmThe fact they did vote to not play should tell you just how bad it was. Think about it .. A entire team. I spent 30 years in and round team sports. There would always be a few guys who would say. " who cares lets just play" to something like that.... ALWAYS.... but there isn't. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM FELT THE NEED TO SIT OUT.. ALL OF THEM.... that speaks volumes to me.hickaggie wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 4:41 pmThen why would you choose this route as your form of protest. It only harms themselves, Maile, and a conference mate. They didn't think this through at all. They needed to make the comments public exactly how they were expressed and do their protesting and whatever social justice canceling is done these days in a normal fashion. YOU DON'T REFUSE TO PLAY A FOOTBALL GAME. THATS INSANE.MWCFAN12 wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 4:38 pmThis 100000000 times. If you have ever looked for a reason to not play a game. You really shouldn't be in or around sports. You are doing it for the wrong reasons and you are going to get yourself or a teammate, or kid ( if you are a coach) hurt.taniataylor wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 4:08 pmI GUARANTEE they weren’t looking for a reason not to play
I cant imagine anything that would make me feel like I need a excuse not to play.
If fact I bet it was the opposite. This was a damn hard decision to make, but right is right and wrong is wrong. I bet there were tear and broken hearts over this. As there should have been. No way that was a easy decison much less a way out.
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Re: Players voted against playing because of comments by President Cockett
So, we can get their voting tallies, but not what was said. Thanks Trib.
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Re: Players voted against playing because of comments by President Cockett
I just wanted to see me baby play one more game with a QB that will throw the ball....mehhhh
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Re: Players voted against playing because of comments by President Cockett
All the news stations just eat this type of stuff up. They don't wait until all the facts are out they just start putting out one side of the story.3rdGenAggie wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 4:58 pmSo, we can get their voting tallies, but not what was said. Thanks Trib.
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I know we are not always going to win all of our games. That being said for us to just quit and not play our last game is an embarrassment.
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Most often, they just make stuff up. I really want to hear both sides. They boys have, and have had, serious concerns.Aggie84025 wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 5:00 pmAll the news stations just eat this type of stuff up. They don't wait until all the facts are out they just start putting out one side of the story.3rdGenAggie wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 4:58 pmSo, we can get their voting tallies, but not what was said. Thanks Trib.
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Huh? All the comments of superiority? There might be some, but aren't you overstating it just a bit? Maybe in some ways it si "superior" and you just don't like it. Bovee left for USU and apparently Jay Hill was interested, too. Accordingly, there are a lot of programs "superior" to USU, and there are programs to which WSU is "superior." Relax. This can happen anywhere, especially in today's climate. Be careful when you start throwing rocks.ajwildcat wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 3:43 pmAfter sitting back and reading all the comments on how superior USU supposedly is, well you have to expect WSU and BYU fans to pile on. At least my team isnt in the national media for all the wrong reasons.taniataylor wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 3:41 pmGo away, this is not your timeajwildcat wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 3:37 pmWOW!!! I mean I knew your program was a dumpster fire but good hell this is bad....
Administration being accused of racial and religious bias, really not good.
Tell me again how USU is such a superior program to Weber State....
Im betting Jay Hill is saying prayers of thanks that he didnt get that job
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Re: Players voted against playing because of comments by President Cockett
The "All of them" comes from the original story:
"About three-fourths of the team that responded by Thursday mentioned they were concerned about the religious bias against Maile by Cockett. The players said they don’t believe the Zoom call was recorded.
None of the players were aware of each other’s answers and responded individually.
On Friday morning, in a players-only meeting that lasted more than an hour, the players unanimously voted to not play the season finale because of these issues. The coaching staff was not aware of the players’ meeting until after its conclusion. The Aggies finished the year 1-5."
"About three-fourths of the team that responded by Thursday mentioned they were concerned about the religious bias against Maile by Cockett. The players said they don’t believe the Zoom call was recorded.
None of the players were aware of each other’s answers and responded individually.
On Friday morning, in a players-only meeting that lasted more than an hour, the players unanimously voted to not play the season finale because of these issues. The coaching staff was not aware of the players’ meeting until after its conclusion. The Aggies finished the year 1-5."
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Re: Players voted against playing because of comments by President Cockett
"On Friday morning, in a players-only meeting that lasted more than an hour, the players unanimously voted to not play the season finale because of these issues."
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Re: Players voted against playing because of comments by President Cockett
I promise you it's not because the Trib didn't reach out to USU to get their side. This is just how news reporting works. One side gives them information, they report what they have, and wait for the other side to comment. If they waited for Utah State to get back to them and "explain their side" before publishing anything, we'd be sitting here freaking out that the team is still in Utah and nobody is reporting about why.newhouse9 wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 5:06 pmMost often, they just makes stuff up. I really want to hear both sides. They boys have, and have had, serious concerns.Aggie84025 wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 5:00 pmAll the news stations just eat this type of stuff up. They don't wait until all the facts are out they just start putting out one side of the story.3rdGenAggie wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 4:58 pmSo, we can get their voting tallies, but not what was said. Thanks Trib.
Nothing they reported was reported as absolute fact. It was reported as being what they were told by one side. That doesn't make it biased reporting.
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Re: Players voted against playing because of comments by President Cockett
So I take it you didn’t read the statement? Player poll was taken, player meeting had to be organized. 100+ people cannot instantly get a consensus opinion and cannot possibly instantly organize a team meeting about that opinion and poll.Aggie84025 wrote:I guess my concern is they said the meeting was on December 8th which was Tuesday it is now Friday and we are barely getting any of this out. Wouldn't they have brought this out immediately.MrBiggle wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 3:51 pmFrom yahoo...AggiePT wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 3:47 pmWould it be too much to ask for a copy and paste of the actual statement?MrBiggle wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 3:45 pmJust read the released statement from the players. And here goes...
If those dip $hits think that the problem with the head equipment manager was not taken care of properly they can go pound sand! What a bunch of entitled pricks! They know nothing, but what an upset girlfriend said, who by the way was not even present for the incident. The entire thing was taken out of context and the player involved stated what happened is not a problem! These kids, because that is what they are acting like, are going to struggle with life if they think this is how things get accomplished.
The Utah State football players have decided to opt out of our game against Colorado State due to ongoing inequality and prejudicial issues between the players, coaches, and the USU administration.
“On Tuesday, December 8th, the Utah State University Football Leadership Council held a zoom meeting with Noelle Cockett, President of USU, and John Hartwell, the Athletic Director. The purpose of the meeting was to have a say in the search for our new head coach. During the meeting, we voiced our support for Interim Head Coach Frank Maile. In response to our comments, their primary concern was his religious and cultural background. Players, stating their diverse faiths and backgrounds, then jumped to Coach Frank Maile’s defense in treating everyone with love, equality, and fairness.
“It is not the first time issues of repeated discrimination have happened. In December 2019, our head equipment manager used a racial slur against one of our African-American teammates. After disregarding the incident, pressure resurfaced to investigate in the summer of 2020. After the investigation, the administration concluded he would continue to be employed.
“We want our message to be clear that this has nothing to do with the hiring of Coach Blake Anderson, the recently-named head coach of the program. We are sure he is an excellent coach; we look forward to meeting him and his staff. We are highlighting the ongoing problems of inequality and want to create a better future for the community of Logan and Utah State University.”
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Re: Players voted against playing because of comments by President Cockett
You left out the "Did you hear what I heard?" part of the report. Testimony tainted.BleedAggieBlue0 wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 6:15 pmSo I take it you didn’t read the statement? Player poll was taken, player meeting had to be organized. 100+ people cannot instantly get a consensus opinion and cannot possibly instantly organize a team meeting about that opinion and poll.Aggie84025 wrote:I guess my concern is they said the meeting was on December 8th which was Tuesday it is now Friday and we are barely getting any of this out. Wouldn't they have brought this out immediately.MrBiggle wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 3:51 pmFrom yahoo...AggiePT wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 3:47 pmWould it be too much to ask for a copy and paste of the actual statement?MrBiggle wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 3:45 pmJust read the released statement from the players. And here goes...
If those dip $hits think that the problem with the head equipment manager was not taken care of properly they can go pound sand! What a bunch of entitled pricks! They know nothing, but what an upset girlfriend said, who by the way was not even present for the incident. The entire thing was taken out of context and the player involved stated what happened is not a problem! These kids, because that is what they are acting like, are going to struggle with life if they think this is how things get accomplished.
The Utah State football players have decided to opt out of our game against Colorado State due to ongoing inequality and prejudicial issues between the players, coaches, and the USU administration.
“On Tuesday, December 8th, the Utah State University Football Leadership Council held a zoom meeting with Noelle Cockett, President of USU, and John Hartwell, the Athletic Director. The purpose of the meeting was to have a say in the search for our new head coach. During the meeting, we voiced our support for Interim Head Coach Frank Maile. In response to our comments, their primary concern was his religious and cultural background. Players, stating their diverse faiths and backgrounds, then jumped to Coach Frank Maile’s defense in treating everyone with love, equality, and fairness.
“It is not the first time issues of repeated discrimination have happened. In December 2019, our head equipment manager used a racial slur against one of our African-American teammates. After disregarding the incident, pressure resurfaced to investigate in the summer of 2020. After the investigation, the administration concluded he would continue to be employed.
“We want our message to be clear that this has nothing to do with the hiring of Coach Blake Anderson, the recently-named head coach of the program. We are sure he is an excellent coach; we look forward to meeting him and his staff. We are highlighting the ongoing problems of inequality and want to create a better future for the community of Logan and Utah State University.”
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You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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Re: Players voted against playing because of comments by President Cockett
Exactly. I expect a large percentage of the votes were of the "I didn't hear it, but I'm not going to go against my teammate" variety.
I sure wish we knew what Cockett was purported to have said.
I sure wish we knew what Cockett was purported to have said.
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Re: Players voted against playing because of comments by President Cockett
Understood.stang wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 6:07 pmI promise you it's not because the Trib didn't reach out to USU to get their side. This is just how news reporting works. One side gives them information, they report what they have, and wait for the other side to comment. If they waited for Utah State to get back to them and "explain their side" before publishing anything, we'd be sitting here freaking out that the team is still in Utah and nobody is reporting about why.newhouse9 wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 5:06 pmMost often, they just makes stuff up. I really want to hear both sides. They boys have, and have had, serious concerns.Aggie84025 wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 5:00 pmAll the news stations just eat this type of stuff up. They don't wait until all the facts are out they just start putting out one side of the story.3rdGenAggie wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 4:58 pmSo, we can get their voting tallies, but not what was said. Thanks Trib.
Nothing they reported was reported as absolute fact. It was reported as being what they were told by one side. That doesn't make it biased reporting.
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Re: Players voted against playing because of comments by President Cockett
I would bet that something was said along the lines of, “we can’t just hire Coach Maile because he is LDS and Polynesian”. In other words, even though those two point are true, they aren’t the most important factors in this decision. The players didn’t like the logic, and being super sensitive right now, misinterpreted the statement.3rdGenAggie wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 6:23 pmExactly. I expect a large percentage of the votes were of the "I didn't hear it, but I'm not going to go against my teammate" variety.
I sure wish we knew what Cockett was purported to have said.
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Re: Players voted against playing because of comments by President Cockett
Your AD quit to be our associate AD.ajwildcat wrote:After sitting back and reading all the comments on how superior USU supposedly is, well you have to expect WSU and BYU fans to pile on. At least my team isnt in the national media for all the wrong reasons.taniataylor wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 3:41 pmGo away, this is not your timeajwildcat wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 3:37 pmWOW!!! I mean I knew your program was a dumpster fire but good hell this is bad....
Administration being accused of racial and religious bias, really not good.
Tell me again how USU is such a superior program to Weber State....
Im betting Jay Hill is saying prayers of thanks that he didnt get that job
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Re: Players voted against playing because of comments by President Cockett
As an attorney I am naturally skeptical of most things reported by the media, since most every story has at least three sides - each side has its version and the truth is usually somewhere in-between - and the media usually only publishes the side that will drive the most clicks and eyeballs.
However, I cannot believe the claims that a university president would blatantly comment that she was engaging in illegal employment discrimination based on someone's religion and race. Especially when it was allegedly sat on for three days before any word about it was leaked. Some player would have said something about it to a friend, roommate, parent, sibling, spouse, etc. before today and it would have hit social media.
It will take irrefutable evidence for me to believe otherwise in this situation. But as many have commented, the damage occurring from the mere allegation is done and will be lasting, even if all the evidence shows no such comment was even remotely made.
However, I cannot believe the claims that a university president would blatantly comment that she was engaging in illegal employment discrimination based on someone's religion and race. Especially when it was allegedly sat on for three days before any word about it was leaked. Some player would have said something about it to a friend, roommate, parent, sibling, spouse, etc. before today and it would have hit social media.
It will take irrefutable evidence for me to believe otherwise in this situation. But as many have commented, the damage occurring from the mere allegation is done and will be lasting, even if all the evidence shows no such comment was even remotely made.
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Re: Players voted against playing because of comments by President Cockett
This is where I fall. I am not an employment attorney, but we have a large employment group at my firm, and there are certainly times where someone in such a position does say something just that dumb, but it would stun me if it were true here. She really told 100 people in a public forum we didn't hire someone because he is a LDS Polynesian? And it didn't hit twitter 50 times in the next 10 minutes? And no other university official on the call stepped in?bwcrc wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 6:51 pmAs an attorney I am naturally skeptical of most things reported by the media, since most every story has at least three sides - each side has its version and the truth is usually somewhere in-between - and the media usually only publishes the side that will drive the most clicks and eyeballs.
However, I cannot believe the claims that a university president would blatantly comment that she was engaging in illegal employment discrimination based on someone's religion and race. Especially when it was allegedly sat on for three days before any word about it was leaked. Some player would have said something about it to a friend, roommate, parent, sibling, spouse, etc. before today and it would have hit social media.
It will take irrefutable evidence for me to believe otherwise in this situation. But as many have commented, the damage occurring from the mere allegation is done and will be lasting, even if all the evidence shows no such comment was even remotely made.
I am certainly willing to entertain she said something just that egregious because it does happen from time to time, but I am skeptical without something more than an oddly well-crafted statement compared to what players usually put out when they make some sort of announcement.
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Re: Players voted against playing because of comments by President Cockett
Three for three
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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Re: Players voted against playing because of comments by President Cockett
So am I correct in assuming he was amongst the 1/4 who voted to play? If so, props to him!taniataylor wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 4:59 pmI just wanted to see me baby play one more game with a QB that will throw the ball....mehhhh
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The vote to not play was reportedly unanimous.OrangeCountyAggie wrote:So am I correct in assuming he was amongst the 1/4 who voted to play? If so, props to him!taniataylor wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 4:59 pmI just wanted to see me baby play one more game with a QB that will throw the ball....mehhhh
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Let's call this what it actually is: a group of immature (and frankly, stupid) prima donna football players with a pathetic won-loss record somehow got it into their heads that the world revolves around them and concomitantly that somehow it is de rigueur for the University president and AD not merely to consult them on who the University should hire to coach them, but to actually give them veto power over the decision! It is the quintessence of nonsense to believe these kids care so deeply about Mormons (or Polynesians for that matter) that a remark that might be creatively construed as religiously or culturally insensitive offended them so deeply that they had no choice but to make a stand against religious and cultural bigotry and this no less on behalf of a culture dominated by Mormons and to a lesser degree Polynesians! That is utter nonsense. In fact and in truth, these "players" (I use the term guardedly) actually care so little about cultural and religious bigotry that they are willing to hijack it for the illegitimate purpose of camouflaging their own narcissism and justifying their temper tantrum over not being permitted to dictate who their coach is. No wonder this "team" got blown out in damn near every game they played this season! The reason is now irrefutably evident and it has little if anything to do with coaching and everything to do with character. Is there an actual man among them? Can someone please arrange to send these children masquerading as post-pubescent footballers back to junior high school and a second chance at growing up?
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That was what was reported, but that's not what happened according to players.BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:The vote to not play was reportedly unanimous.OrangeCountyAggie wrote:So am I correct in assuming he was amongst the 1/4 who voted to play? If so, props to him!taniataylor wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 4:59 pmI just wanted to see me baby play one more game with a QB that will throw the ball....mehhhh
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Oh I guess I missed that? I saw that the poll that was 75% was regarding who was concerned about the comments made. And the decision to not play was unanimous- just what I read tho.treesap32 wrote:That was what was reported, but that's not what happened according to players.BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:The vote to not play was reportedly unanimous.OrangeCountyAggie wrote:So am I correct in assuming he was amongst the 1/4 who voted to play? If so, props to him!taniataylor wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 4:59 pmI just wanted to see me baby play one more game with a QB that will throw the ball....mehhhh
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Re: Players voted against playing because of comments by President Cockett
"I am devastated that my comments were interpreted as bias against anyone's religious background," Cockett said in a statement. "Throughout my professional career and, especially, as president of USU, I have welcomed the opportunity to meet directly and often with students about their experiences. Regardless of how difficult the conversations might be in the coming days, I remain committed to giving our students a voice."
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Predictably, we’re one of the top ESPN headlines... =\
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Predictably, we’re one of the top ESPN headlines... =\
GO AGGIES! GO AGGIES! HEY! HEY! HEY!
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Yes, that's what the media reported. Parents of players in this very thread indicated that some players wanted to play.BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:Oh I guess I missed that? I saw that the poll that was 75% was regarding who was concerned about the comments made. And the decision to not play was unanimous- just what I read tho.treesap32 wrote:That was what was reported, but that's not what happened according to players.BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:The vote to not play was reportedly unanimous.OrangeCountyAggie wrote:So am I correct in assuming he was amongst the 1/4 who voted to play? If so, props to him!taniataylor wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 4:59 pmI just wanted to see me baby play one more game with a QB that will throw the ball....mehhhh
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I'm guessing that the majority ruled. They shouldn't have reported it as "unanimous" if it wasn't unanimous though.
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This program was blue-collar-tough not too long ago.
Strong people who actually believed in Maile would go to war for him and give him a victory. End the season with a celebration or one hell of a fight.
Weak people play the victim to get power. They feel better by sitting in the bleachers and hurting others by the power society has given accusations.
This backfired on everyone. The toenail hurt so we cut-off the whole leg to feel better for the moment.
Here's to a winning team in 2021
Strong people who actually believed in Maile would go to war for him and give him a victory. End the season with a celebration or one hell of a fight.
Weak people play the victim to get power. They feel better by sitting in the bleachers and hurting others by the power society has given accusations.
This backfired on everyone. The toenail hurt so we cut-off the whole leg to feel better for the moment.
Here's to a winning team in 2021
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Re: Players voted against playing because of comments by President Cockett
BLUERUFiO wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 7:52 pm"I am devastated that my comments were interpreted as bias against anyone's religious background," Cockett said in a statement. "Throughout my professional career and, especially, as president of USU, I have welcomed the opportunity to meet directly and often with students about their experiences. Regardless of how difficult the conversations might be in the coming days, I remain committed to giving our students a voice."
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Predictably, we’re one of the top ESPN headlines... =\
What a year. On espn headlines for bottom 10 and player boycott. My goodness.
Luckily we had Sam in what feels like forever ago.
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Re: Players voted against playing because of comments by President Cockett
I'm not talking about the meeting that they had today but that we didn't hear any of these comments or accusations prior to today when they happened on tuesday. I have a hard time believing that they sat for two days and none of this information was leaked if the comments were so outrageous.BleedAggieBlue0 wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 6:15 pmSo I take it you didn’t read the statement? Player poll was taken, player meeting had to be organized. 100+ people cannot instantly get a consensus opinion and cannot possibly instantly organize a team meeting about that opinion and poll.Aggie84025 wrote:I guess my concern is they said the meeting was on December 8th which was Tuesday it is now Friday and we are barely getting any of this out. Wouldn't they have brought this out immediately.MrBiggle wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 3:51 pmFrom yahoo...AggiePT wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 3:47 pmWould it be too much to ask for a copy and paste of the actual statement?MrBiggle wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 3:45 pmJust read the released statement from the players. And here goes...
If those dip $hits think that the problem with the head equipment manager was not taken care of properly they can go pound sand! What a bunch of entitled pricks! They know nothing, but what an upset girlfriend said, who by the way was not even present for the incident. The entire thing was taken out of context and the player involved stated what happened is not a problem! These kids, because that is what they are acting like, are going to struggle with life if they think this is how things get accomplished.
The Utah State football players have decided to opt out of our game against Colorado State due to ongoing inequality and prejudicial issues between the players, coaches, and the USU administration.
“On Tuesday, December 8th, the Utah State University Football Leadership Council held a zoom meeting with Noelle Cockett, President of USU, and John Hartwell, the Athletic Director. The purpose of the meeting was to have a say in the search for our new head coach. During the meeting, we voiced our support for Interim Head Coach Frank Maile. In response to our comments, their primary concern was his religious and cultural background. Players, stating their diverse faiths and backgrounds, then jumped to Coach Frank Maile’s defense in treating everyone with love, equality, and fairness.
“It is not the first time issues of repeated discrimination have happened. In December 2019, our head equipment manager used a racial slur against one of our African-American teammates. After disregarding the incident, pressure resurfaced to investigate in the summer of 2020. After the investigation, the administration concluded he would continue to be employed.
“We want our message to be clear that this has nothing to do with the hiring of Coach Blake Anderson, the recently-named head coach of the program. We are sure he is an excellent coach; we look forward to meeting him and his staff. We are highlighting the ongoing problems of inequality and want to create a better future for the community of Logan and Utah State University.”
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Shaq Bond tweeted a teaser yesterday.
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