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Re: Colorado State

Post by Turtle » December 11th, 2020, 2:57 pm

Wow... This is embarrassing. Good luck to anyone trying to transfer, this will be a huge red flag.



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Re: Colorado State

Post by GeoAg » December 11th, 2020, 2:58 pm

They are killing Franks chances of being a head coach anywhere with this, and rightfully so TBH.


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Re: Colorado State

Post by ViAggie » December 11th, 2020, 3:00 pm

WELP there you have it


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Re: Colorado State

Post by GeoAg » December 11th, 2020, 3:01 pm

ProvoAggie wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 2:57 pm
There it is.

I honestly do not believe this for a second. I want to hear what was said. Not this general stuff.


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Re: Colorado State

Post by Turtle » December 11th, 2020, 3:01 pm

GeoAg wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 2:58 pm
They are killing Franks chances of being a head coach anywhere with this, and rightfully so TBH.
This is actually really sad for Frank because he was not a part of the meeting and wasn't even aware of it, according the article linked prior.. Frustrating.



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Re: Colorado State

Post by GordoAggie » December 11th, 2020, 3:01 pm

Article says a unanimous vote to not play



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Re: Colorado State

Post by ViAggie » December 11th, 2020, 3:03 pm

what the hell did Crotchet tell the team??? That statement is weird, I guess they asked her why USU didn't consider hiring FM and she made some comments? Really weird.


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Re: Colorado State

Post by Elkaggie » December 11th, 2020, 3:04 pm

Posted this in another thread.

You all that are pointing the finger at Frank don’t have a clue. You should be pointing the finger at Mr. Hartwell the way he has handled this entire this is a complete embarrassment. I have lost a lot of respect for him. It’s absolutely 100% his fault. I hope somebody asks him straight up about it at the press conference... assuming there is one.



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Re: Colorado State

Post by coolag » December 11th, 2020, 3:06 pm

Bunch of pu$$ies.



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Re: Colorado State

Post by GeoAg » December 11th, 2020, 3:06 pm

Elkaggie wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 3:04 pm
Posted this in another thread.

You all that are pointing the finger at Frank don’t have a clue. You should be pointing the finger at Mr. Hartwell the way he has handled this entire this is a complete embarrassment. I have lost a lot of respect for him. It’s absolutely 100% his fault. I hope somebody asks him straight up about it at the press conference... assuming there is one.
Share what you are talking about.


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Re: Colorado State

Post by coolag » December 11th, 2020, 3:06 pm

Elkaggie wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 3:04 pm
Posted this in another thread.

You all that are pointing the finger at Frank don’t have a clue. You should be pointing the finger at Mr. Hartwell the way he has handled this entire this is a complete embarrassment. I have lost a lot of respect for him. It’s absolutely 100% his fault. I hope somebody asks him straight up about it at the press conference... assuming there is one.
Ok tell us how he has handled it then smarty.



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Re: Colorado State

Post by CastIronAggie » December 11th, 2020, 3:08 pm

ViAggie wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 3:03 pm
what the hell did Crotchet tell the team??? That statement is weird, I guess they asked her why USU didn't consider hiring FM and she made some comments? Really weird.
Yep. I want to hear the specific comments that they are upset about. Then I can decide whether they are in the right or not.



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Re: Colorado State

Post by AgMac » December 11th, 2020, 3:09 pm

I'm honestly stunned right now. I do not want one kid returning to play for us next year. Absolute and complete sweep of the program. I don't buy the Noelle Cockett said something racial excuse. Not for one second. Truly embarrassing.
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Re: Colorado State

Post by aggieguy13 » December 11th, 2020, 3:09 pm

"After Tuesday’s Zoom call with Cockett and Athletic Director John Hartwell to discuss Maile’s candidacy for the Utah State job, the team’s leadership council raised issues about Cockett’s comments regarding Maile, who is a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The players were so “dumbfounded” by Cockett’s comments that a player conducted an anonymous players-only survey asking the players if they were on the zoom call and whether they were concerned about anything they heard in the meeting."

I obviously don't know what happened in that meeting, but I'd also be "dumbfounded" if Cockett didn't begin and end her discussion about Maile vs. Anderson with, "Look at their resumes."



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Re: Colorado State

Post by AgMac » December 11th, 2020, 3:14 pm

aggieguy13 wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 3:09 pm
"After Tuesday’s Zoom call with Cockett and Athletic Director John Hartwell to discuss Maile’s candidacy for the Utah State job, the team’s leadership council raised issues about Cockett’s comments regarding Maile, who is a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The players were so “dumbfounded” by Cockett’s comments that a player conducted an anonymous players-only survey asking the players if they were on the zoom call and whether they were concerned about anything they heard in the meeting."

I obviously don't know what happened in that meeting, but I'd also be "dumbfounded" if Cockett didn't begin and end her discussion about Maile vs. Anderson with, "Look at their resumes."
I just don't buy it. Tell us what was said, players. Cockett is not stupid.
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Re: Colorado State

Post by AgMan21 » December 11th, 2020, 3:14 pm

Is there any word from those in the know about what was allegedly said? And should we expect a response from them University?


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Re: Colorado State

Post by CastIronAggie » December 11th, 2020, 3:15 pm

aggieguy13 wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 3:09 pm
"After Tuesday’s Zoom call with Cockett and Athletic Director John Hartwell to discuss Maile’s candidacy for the Utah State job, the team’s leadership council raised issues about Cockett’s comments regarding Maile, who is a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The players were so “dumbfounded” by Cockett’s comments that a player conducted an anonymous players-only survey asking the players if they were on the zoom call and whether they were concerned about anything they heard in the meeting."

I obviously don't know what happened in that meeting, but I'd also be "dumbfounded" if Cockett didn't begin and end her discussion about Maile vs. Anderson with, "Look at their resumes."
It's as simple as telling them to think back on how they played against AF. If they wanted Maile, that was their chance.



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Re: Colorado State

Post by taniataylor » December 11th, 2020, 3:17 pm

Coach Anderson will be having a meeting tonight at 8 pm with the players that are returning...


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Post by stang » December 11th, 2020, 3:18 pm

There are a lot of people making some very bold statements while knowing very, very little about what’s happening in this thread.

Maybe before calling for players to be kicked off the team, or for Maile to never get a job again, or calling for Cockett to be fired we should wait for some more information? Just a thought.
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Re: Colorado State

Post by 3rdGenAggie » December 11th, 2020, 3:18 pm

Elkaggie wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 3:04 pm
Posted this in another thread.

You all that are pointing the finger at Frank don’t have a clue. You should be pointing the finger at Mr. Hartwell the way he has handled this entire this is a complete embarrassment. I have lost a lot of respect for him. It’s absolutely 100% his fault. I hope somebody asks him straight up about it at the press conference... assuming there is one.
You keep saying this and you're right. Nobody has a clue. Obviously you claim to, so tell us so we can share in your outrage if that's what is necessary.


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Re: Colorado State

Post by 2004AG » December 11th, 2020, 3:20 pm

Elkaggie wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 3:04 pm
Posted this in another thread.

You all that are pointing the finger at Frank don’t have a clue. You should be pointing the finger at Mr. Hartwell the way he has handled this entire this is a complete embarrassment. I have lost a lot of respect for him. It’s absolutely 100% his fault. I hope somebody asks him straight up about it at the press conference... assuming there is one.
Maybe Hartwell makes mistakes and doesn't walk on water after all........



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Re: Colorado State

Post by splintorb » December 11th, 2020, 3:21 pm

2004AG wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 3:20 pm
Elkaggie wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 3:04 pm
Posted this in another thread.

You all that are pointing the finger at Frank don’t have a clue. You should be pointing the finger at Mr. Hartwell the way he has handled this entire this is a complete embarrassment. I have lost a lot of respect for him. It’s absolutely 100% his fault. I hope somebody asks him straight up about it at the press conference... assuming there is one.
Maybe Hartwell makes mistakes and doesn't walk on water after all........
The statement actually doesn't state that Hartwell said/did anything negatively. It states Crockett said something...



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Re: Colorado State

Post by GeoAg » December 11th, 2020, 3:21 pm

2004AG wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 3:20 pm
Elkaggie wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 3:04 pm
Posted this in another thread.

You all that are pointing the finger at Frank don’t have a clue. You should be pointing the finger at Mr. Hartwell the way he has handled this entire this is a complete embarrassment. I have lost a lot of respect for him. It’s absolutely 100% his fault. I hope somebody asks him straight up about it at the press conference... assuming there is one.
Maybe Hartwell makes mistakes and doesn't walk on water after all........
The players aren't talking about Hartwell.


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Re: Colorado State

Post by USU78 » December 11th, 2020, 3:28 pm

taniataylor wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 3:17 pm
Coach Anderson will be having a meeting tonight at 8 pm with the players that are returning...
A nice small group. Sounds cozy
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You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

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Re: Colorado State

Post by AgMac » December 11th, 2020, 3:30 pm

stang wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 3:18 pm
There are a lot of people making some very bold statements while knowing very, very little about what’s happening in this thread.

Maybe before calling for players to be kicked off the team, or for Maile to never get a job again, or calling for Cockett to be fired we should wait for some more information? Just a thought.
Here's some facts that I know:

1- Many, many players were very mad that Frank didn't get the job and were publicly airing their grievances on social media, but not one indication (outside of Shaq Bond) that anything inappropriate was said at the meeting.
2- Nobody will say what Cockett has supposedly said. Instead, there are just ambiguous allegations of inappropriate religious and cultural statements.
3- We have parents of players on this board who were posting the past 24 hours and obviously heard nothing about such alleged inappropriate statements.
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Re: Colorado State

Post by GeoAg » December 11th, 2020, 3:30 pm

GeoAg wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 3:21 pm
2004AG wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 3:20 pm
Elkaggie wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 3:04 pm
Posted this in another thread.

You all that are pointing the finger at Frank don’t have a clue. You should be pointing the finger at Mr. Hartwell the way he has handled this entire this is a complete embarrassment. I have lost a lot of respect for him. It’s absolutely 100% his fault. I hope somebody asks him straight up about it at the press conference... assuming there is one.
Maybe Hartwell makes mistakes and doesn't walk on water after all........
The players aren't talking about Hartwell.
Ok, the players statement doesn't talk about Hartwell or Cockett. It is the Brett McMurphy report that mentions Noelle. We'll see what was said.

Also, the meeting happened 3 days ago and this doesn't come up until now?


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Re: Colorado State

Post by Aggie84025 » December 11th, 2020, 3:33 pm

Elkaggie wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 3:04 pm
Posted this in another thread.

You all that are pointing the finger at Frank don’t have a clue. You should be pointing the finger at Mr. Hartwell the way he has handled this entire this is a complete embarrassment. I have lost a lot of respect for him. It’s absolutely 100% his fault. I hope somebody asks him straight up about it at the press conference... assuming there is one.
The report says it was cocketts comment not hartwell's. How did hartwell actually botch the hiring process. I dont think frank is qualified for the job from a orofe1ssional standpoint, but his religion and cultural background should have nothing to do it.



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Re: Colorado State

Post by 2004AG » December 11th, 2020, 3:38 pm

GeoAg wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 3:21 pm
2004AG wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 3:20 pm
Elkaggie wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 3:04 pm
Posted this in another thread.

You all that are pointing the finger at Frank don’t have a clue. You should be pointing the finger at Mr. Hartwell the way he has handled this entire this is a complete embarrassment. I have lost a lot of respect for him. It’s absolutely 100% his fault. I hope somebody asks him straight up about it at the press conference... assuming there is one.
Maybe Hartwell makes mistakes and doesn't walk on water after all........
The players aren't talking about Hartwell.
I'm clearly referencing what ElkAggie said



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Re: Colorado State

Post by bluegrouse » December 11th, 2020, 3:41 pm

taniataylor wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 3:17 pm
Coach Anderson will be having a meeting tonight at 8 pm with the players that are returning...
Bet he’s regretting his decision right about now.... what a sh!t show.



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Re: Colorado State

Post by taniataylor » December 11th, 2020, 3:44 pm

bluegrouse wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 3:41 pm
taniataylor wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 3:17 pm
Coach Anderson will be having a meeting tonight at 8 pm with the players that are returning...
Bet he’s regretting his decision right about now.... what a sh!t show.
No, it’s going to be ok. The true, dedicated players are meeting with their new coach tonight...Im looking at it that way
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Re: Colorado State

Post by bluegrouse » December 11th, 2020, 3:47 pm

taniataylor wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 3:44 pm
bluegrouse wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 3:41 pm
taniataylor wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 3:17 pm
Coach Anderson will be having a meeting tonight at 8 pm with the players that are returning...
Bet he’s regretting his decision right about now.... what a sh!t show.
No, it’s going to be ok. The true, dedicated players are meeting with their new coach tonight...Im looking at it that way
I hope you’re right but these type of things have a tendency to take on a life of their own - no matter what the actual facts are.



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Re: Colorado State

Post by taniataylor » December 11th, 2020, 3:48 pm

bluegrouse wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 3:47 pm
taniataylor wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 3:44 pm
bluegrouse wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 3:41 pm
taniataylor wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 3:17 pm
Coach Anderson will be having a meeting tonight at 8 pm with the players that are returning...
Bet he’s regretting his decision right about now.... what a sh!t show.
No, it’s going to be ok. The true, dedicated players are meeting with their new coach tonight...Im looking at it that way
I hope you’re right but these type of things have a tendency to take on a life of their own - no matter what the actual facts are.
I know. I will update what I know, but I am very very disappointed
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Re: Colorado State

Post by bluegrouse » December 11th, 2020, 3:49 pm

taniataylor wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 3:44 pm
bluegrouse wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 3:41 pm
taniataylor wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 3:17 pm
Coach Anderson will be having a meeting tonight at 8 pm with the players that are returning...
Bet he’s regretting his decision right about now.... what a sh!t show.
No, it’s going to be ok. The true, dedicated players are meeting with their new coach tonight...Im looking at it that way
BTW, can we hire you to stay around as a voice of reason long after Jordan leaves? Honestly, you’re one of the best things about coming to this board for me.
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Re: Colorado State

Post by GeoAg » December 11th, 2020, 3:50 pm

bluegrouse wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 3:49 pm
taniataylor wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 3:44 pm
bluegrouse wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 3:41 pm
taniataylor wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 3:17 pm
Coach Anderson will be having a meeting tonight at 8 pm with the players that are returning...
Bet he’s regretting his decision right about now.... what a sh!t show.
No, it’s going to be ok. The true, dedicated players are meeting with their new coach tonight...Im looking at it that way
BTW, can we hire you to stay around as a voice of reason long after Jordan leaves? Honestly, you’re one of the best things about coming to this board for me.
Yes please! You know they say once an Aggie always an Aggie.
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Re: Colorado State

Post by coolag » December 11th, 2020, 4:20 pm

Still waiting elkaggie. What reason do you have to point the finger at Hartwell and lecture the rest of us about pointing the finger at the coaches and players? My guess is your full of shi+
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