Both coached at Arkansas State
Bryan Harsin
2013 6-5 then left for Boise State before the bowl game (the same team went on to win the bowl game). 54.5 % or 58.3% depending if you count the bowl game
Blake Anderson
2014 7-6
2015 9-4
2016 7-5
2017 8-5
2018 8-5
2019 8-5
2020 4-7
Overall 51-37 58%

Hard to compare the two. Harsin had a long history with BSU and only spent a year with Arkansas St.

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From what I've seen, AK-State beat Kansas State at the beginning of the year then was hit hard by Covid which cost them several games. So on an average year, they probably would have gone 8-5 as well.

I think he has a good chance to succeed here. I hope that a new start will be good for him and that he feels at home here in Logan.

SLB wrote: ↑

December 10th, 2020, 1:24 pm

Both coached at Arkansas State
Bryan Harsin
2013 6-5 then left for Boise State before the bowl game (the same team went on to win the bowl game). 54.5 % or 58.3% depending if you count the bowl game
Blake Anderson
2014 7-6
2015 9-4
2016 7-5
2017 8-5
2018 8-5
2019 8-5
2020 4-7
Overall 51-37 58%

Winning is winning. I like winning!

aggies22 wrote: ↑

December 10th, 2020, 1:36 pm

SLB wrote: ↑

December 10th, 2020, 1:24 pm

Both coached at Arkansas State
Bryan Harsin
2013 6-5 then left for Boise State before the bowl game (the same team went on to win the bowl game). 54.5 % or 58.3% depending if you count the bowl game
Blake Anderson
2014 7-6
2015 9-4
2016 7-5
2017 8-5
2018 8-5
2019 8-5
2020 4-7
Overall 51-37 58%

Winning is winning. I like winning!

In your view 22 how is the guy as a recruiter?

aggies22 wrote: ↑

December 10th, 2020, 1:36 pm

SLB wrote: ↑

December 10th, 2020, 1:24 pm

Both coached at Arkansas State
Bryan Harsin
2013 6-5 then left for Boise State before the bowl game (the same team went on to win the bowl game). 54.5 % or 58.3% depending if you count the bowl game
Blake Anderson
2014 7-6
2015 9-4
2016 7-5
2017 8-5
2018 8-5
2019 8-5
2020 4-7
Overall 51-37 58%

Winning is winning. I like winning!

Soon I heard about the reports, I was curious how Anderson compared to Harsin at Arkansas State.

JFW_AGGIES wrote: ↑

December 10th, 2020, 1:37 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑

December 10th, 2020, 1:36 pm

SLB wrote: ↑

December 10th, 2020, 1:24 pm

Both coached at Arkansas State
Bryan Harsin
2013 6-5 then left for Boise State before the bowl game (the same team went on to win the bowl game). 54.5 % or 58.3% depending if you count the bowl game
Blake Anderson
2014 7-6
2015 9-4
2016 7-5
2017 8-5
2018 8-5
2019 8-5
2020 4-7
Overall 51-37 58%

Winning is winning. I like winning!

In your view 22 how is the guy as a recruiter?

He recruited a WR that is probably going to the NFL after this season.

High Freeze and Gus Malzhan were also one year wonders at ASU before Harsin. I respect Anderson for really hanging around and building a program rather than jumping ship like his predecessors even though it sounds like he’s had the opportunity. Maybe the Boise -USU game will develop into more of a rivalry game seeing as I’m sure both coaches have a little extra incentive to beat each other.

Anderson was the fifth coach in five years. Prior to the second season, his stock opening line at functions was. I'm still here.

I have mad respect for Harsin. He was trying to run the Boise system with an offensive line built for spread option. He fired himself as playcaller and handed it over to Eli Drinkwitz who you may recognize as head coach at Mizzou. He was open and honest about the change. He's a stand-up guy.

I've never enjoyed talking football with a coach more than Harsin. He would figure out your level of knowledge and talk at your level without being condescending. All that said, he is one WEIRD CAT. Could not connect with a crowd or large group, but great one-on-one or a really small group.

Anderson had a real roster mess and never fully got ahead of it.

Blake's slogan here was Faith, Family, Fun replacing Fast, Fun and Violent or something like that when he was reminded fans don't understand the word violent the way coaches and players do

Never discussed it with him but his social media after the season every year would feature the family skiing so I suspect he will take advantage of not having to fly.

May be a culture change not going to the largest church in town, because in Jonesboro the two largest churches are Southern Baptist.

As to Logan. I've visited. I was at the 2016 game and flipped my lid over the penalties (school record). Blaise Taylor (Trooper's son) even drew a 15 which was wild, he rarely even drew PI as a corner. Never been to a game like that until.... we gave UCF their last loss before their streak and long slogging game that had the same crew that worked AState-USU in Logan. Unlike most COMPETENT officiating crews if a couple guys jaw the crew steps between them and warns someone. Those cats were just tossing the flag making no effort to head anything off which made it worse.

I'd love to transfer out west in a few years but our only office in Utah is in Salt Lake and I didn't like SLC at all when I spent a week there for a conference. Probably more like Colorado Springs or Albuquerque or Reno but I really enjoyed Logan.

One of Aggiedom's favorite all-time coaches is Chuck Mills, a cigar chomping Southerner, a Baptist, who was a recruiting dynamo. He was my coach. Just love the guy (he's long in the tooth and puttering along the beaches of Hawaii these days). Anderson should have no qualms about moving to Mormon Central.

Just win, baby!

SLB wrote: ↑

December 10th, 2020, 1:50 pm

JFW_AGGIES wrote: ↑

December 10th, 2020, 1:37 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑

December 10th, 2020, 1:36 pm

SLB wrote: ↑

December 10th, 2020, 1:24 pm

Both coached at Arkansas State
Bryan Harsin
2013 6-5 then left for Boise State before the bowl game (the same team went on to win the bowl game). 54.5 % or 58.3% depending if you count the bowl game
Blake Anderson
2014 7-6
2015 9-4
2016 7-5
2017 8-5
2018 8-5
2019 8-5
2020 4-7
Overall 51-37 58%

Winning is winning. I like winning!

In your view 22 how is the guy as a recruiter?

He recruited a WR that is probably going to the NFL after this season.

He has a WR in the NFL now.

JFW_AGGIES wrote: ↑

December 10th, 2020, 1:37 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑

December 10th, 2020, 1:36 pm

SLB wrote: ↑

December 10th, 2020, 1:24 pm

Both coached at Arkansas State
Bryan Harsin
2013 6-5 then left for Boise State before the bowl game (the same team went on to win the bowl game). 54.5 % or 58.3% depending if you count the bowl game
Blake Anderson
2014 7-6
2015 9-4
2016 7-5
2017 8-5
2018 8-5
2019 8-5
2020 4-7
Overall 51-37 58%

Winning is winning. I like winning!

In your view 22 how is the guy as a recruiter?

He seems pretty consistent. He was routinely in the top 4 in the conference according to ratings. He only finished outside the top 5 once. His average class rating is around 92 or so (without doing the math). He recruits the high schools and the JuCos. He routinely signed a class of 23 or 24 dudes, which tell me he doesn't rely on "push forwards". That's a good thing. We CURRENTLY have 69 scholarship players on the roster. Raiding the transfer portal is a MUST if he wants to be successful immediately. I think that he will keep a coach or three just to have a connection with the west, the polynesian culture and possibly Utah. He has little to no experience this side of the Rockies when it comes to the recruiting game.

If I were asked this is what I would recommend. With the number of open scholarships we have I would take 5 to 8 transfer portal guys and the take a gamble and WAIT until January to finish off my recruiting class. Here is why. With the eligibility freeze scholarships are at a PREMIUM. Most high school kids and the FEW JuCo kids that have offers are going to sign next week out of fear that if they don't take the offer, someone else will. VERY few schools have number of openings we do. Waiting until January may open doors to a number of kids that were left out in the cold. It's a RISK but this MIGHT be the year to take it.

aggies22 wrote: ↑

December 11th, 2020, 9:59 am

JFW_AGGIES wrote: ↑

December 10th, 2020, 1:37 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑

December 10th, 2020, 1:36 pm

SLB wrote: ↑

December 10th, 2020, 1:24 pm

Both coached at Arkansas State
Bryan Harsin
2013 6-5 then left for Boise State before the bowl game (the same team went on to win the bowl game). 54.5 % or 58.3% depending if you count the bowl game
Blake Anderson
2014 7-6
2015 9-4
2016 7-5
2017 8-5
2018 8-5
2019 8-5
2020 4-7
Overall 51-37 58%

Winning is winning. I like winning!

In your view 22 how is the guy as a recruiter?

He seems pretty consistent. He was routinely in the top 4 in the conference according to ratings. He only finished outside the top 5 once. His average class rating is around 92 or so (without doing the math). He recruits the high schools and the JuCos. He routinely signed a class of 23 or 24 dudes, which tell me he doesn't rely on "push forwards". That's a good thing. We CURRENTLY have 69 scholarship players on the roster. Raiding the transfer portal is a MUST if he wants to be successful immediately. I think that he will keep a coach or three just to have a connection with the west, the polynesian culture and possibly Utah. He has little to no experience this side of the Rockies when it comes to the recruiting game.

If I were asked this is what I would recommend. With the number of open scholarships we have I would take 5 to 8 transfer portal guys and the take a gamble and WAIT until January to finish off my recruiting class. Here is why. With the eligibility freeze scholarships are at a PREMIUM. Most high school kids and the FEW JuCo kids that have offers are going to sign next week out of fear that if they don't take the offer, someone else will. VERY few schools have number of openings we do. Waiting until January may open doors to a number of kids that were left out in the cold. It's a RISK but this MIGHT be the year to take it.

Good Post 22. I expect at least a few more transfer's from the team, if that happens and there is a mass exodus, are there enough players out there to fill the team next year?

RigAggie wrote: ↑

December 11th, 2020, 10:34 am

aggies22 wrote: ↑

December 11th, 2020, 9:59 am

JFW_AGGIES wrote: ↑

December 10th, 2020, 1:37 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑

December 10th, 2020, 1:36 pm

SLB wrote: ↑

December 10th, 2020, 1:24 pm

Both coached at Arkansas State
Bryan Harsin
2013 6-5 then left for Boise State before the bowl game (the same team went on to win the bowl game). 54.5 % or 58.3% depending if you count the bowl game
Blake Anderson
2014 7-6
2015 9-4
2016 7-5
2017 8-5
2018 8-5
2019 8-5
2020 4-7
Overall 51-37 58%

Winning is winning. I like winning!

In your view 22 how is the guy as a recruiter?

He seems pretty consistent. He was routinely in the top 4 in the conference according to ratings. He only finished outside the top 5 once. His average class rating is around 92 or so (without doing the math). He recruits the high schools and the JuCos. He routinely signed a class of 23 or 24 dudes, which tell me he doesn't rely on "push forwards". That's a good thing. We CURRENTLY have 69 scholarship players on the roster. Raiding the transfer portal is a MUST if he wants to be successful immediately. I think that he will keep a coach or three just to have a connection with the west, the polynesian culture and possibly Utah. He has little to no experience this side of the Rockies when it comes to the recruiting game.

If I were asked this is what I would recommend. With the number of open scholarships we have I would take 5 to 8 transfer portal guys and the take a gamble and WAIT until January to finish off my recruiting class. Here is why. With the eligibility freeze scholarships are at a PREMIUM. Most high school kids and the FEW JuCo kids that have offers are going to sign next week out of fear that if they don't take the offer, someone else will. VERY few schools have number of openings we do. Waiting until January may open doors to a number of kids that were left out in the cold. It's a RISK but this MIGHT be the year to take it.

Good Post 22. I expect at least a few more transfer's from the team, if that happens and there is a mass exodus, are there enough players out there to fill the team next year?

I think so. We are nearly 20 scholarships under the 85 limit, we really can't afford too many to bail. But if they are going to do it now would be the time. We can sign a class of 25 now and then add others as "push forwards" over the summer because we ONLY HAVE 7 scholarship juniors. That means we have plenty of room for players to leave and plenty of room to add more.