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Re: one way how we are pulling off a season - testing

Post by USU78 » September 25th, 2020, 1:28 pm

Or, testing finds asymptomatic cases (but not hospitalizations or deaths) justifying extending encroachments and shutting down competition and other "useless" things that make life worthwhile. 'Cuz it's so dang fun to be in charge and make people do (or not do) things.
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Post by hipsterdoofus21 » September 26th, 2020, 6:26 am

“Amidst the slew of uncertainty, the anchor of the Mountain West’s return-to-plan is a newly-announced partnership with New Jersey-based Quest Diagnostics, which will allow league members to test student-athletes, coaches, trainers and various on-field personnel three times per week.
Those testing positive for COVID-19 via Quest’s point of contact testing (POC) would then need to undergo a polymerase chain reaction test (PCR) to confirm the POC positive result.“


I hope they realize that once someone has contracted the infection (Asymptomatic or not) the swab continues to show positive for weeks after the infection ends and they are no longer contagious.
If not you’re going to have players sitting out for a month or more rather than 2 weeks. Which brings up another point, the whole 2 week quarantine after testing positive is no longer the CDC’s guideline yet I continue to see schools and employers enforcing it. It was changed to 10 days a while back but people can’t get the 14 day thing out of their heads.
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Post by hipsterdoofus21 » September 26th, 2020, 6:54 am

Data to date show that a person who has had and recovered from COVID-19 may have low levels of virus in their bodies for up to 3 months after diagnosis. This means that if the person who has recovered from COVID-19 is retested within 3 months of initial infection, they may continue to have a positive test result, even though they are not spreading COVID-19.

There are no confirmed reports to date of a person being reinfected with COVID-19 within 3 months of initial infection. However, additional research is ongoing. Therefore, if a person who has recovered from COVID-19 has new symptoms of COVID-19, the person may need an evaluation for reinfection, especially if the person has had close contact with someone infected with COVID-19. The person should isolate and contact a healthcare provider to be evaluated for other causes of their symptoms, and possibly retested.


The conference needs to make sure to stop the tri-weekly testing on anyone who tests positive unless they start having symptoms again. The issue with that is football will be starting up in flu season so players could be suffering from the flu, but then get tested for Covid and have it show up positive when in actuality it’s just inactive remnants of the initial virus.
My advice would be for all players to get their flu shots now. I would also recommend testing for flu any symptomatic player that tests positive for Covid or has had Covid within the past 3 months. The likelihood of a true coinfection is less than 1%. They should consider a chest x-Ray as well if they are considering the possibility of co-infection.
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Post by hipsterdoofus21 » September 26th, 2020, 7:05 am

hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 6:54 am
Data to date show that a person who has had and recovered from COVID-19 may have low levels of virus in their bodies for up to 3 months after diagnosis. This means that if the person who has recovered from COVID-19 is retested within 3 months of initial infection, they may continue to have a positive test result, even though they are not spreading COVID-19.

There are no confirmed reports to date of a person being reinfected with COVID-19 within 3 months of initial infection. However, additional research is ongoing. Therefore, if a person who has recovered from COVID-19 has new symptoms of COVID-19, the person may need an evaluation for reinfection, especially if the person has had close contact with someone infected with COVID-19. The person should isolate and contact a healthcare provider to be evaluated for other causes of their symptoms, and possibly retested.


The conference needs to make sure to stop the tri-weekly testing on anyone who tests positive unless they start having symptoms again. The issue with that is football will be starting up in flu season so players could be suffering from the flu, but then get tested for Covid and have it show up positive when in actuality it’s just inactive remnants of the initial virus.
My advice would be for all players to get their flu shots now. I would also recommend testing for flu any symptomatic player that tests positive for Covid or has had Covid within the past 3 months. The likelihood of a true coinfection is less than 1%. They should consider a chest x-Ray as well if they are considering the possibility of co-infection.
One last side note, sorry.
Since swabs have proven to show positive Covid findings for 1-3 months after infection, it does call into question the accuracy of the Covid infection rates and death counts. Especially when you take into account the amount of “presumed” infections that have been counted.
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Re: one way how we are pulling off a season - testing

Post by Machismo » September 26th, 2020, 10:59 am

hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 7:05 am
hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 6:54 am
Data to date show that a person who has had and recovered from COVID-19 may have low levels of virus in their bodies for up to 3 months after diagnosis. This means that if the person who has recovered from COVID-19 is retested within 3 months of initial infection, they may continue to have a positive test result, even though they are not spreading COVID-19.

There are no confirmed reports to date of a person being reinfected with COVID-19 within 3 months of initial infection. However, additional research is ongoing. Therefore, if a person who has recovered from COVID-19 has new symptoms of COVID-19, the person may need an evaluation for reinfection, especially if the person has had close contact with someone infected with COVID-19. The person should isolate and contact a healthcare provider to be evaluated for other causes of their symptoms, and possibly retested.


The conference needs to make sure to stop the tri-weekly testing on anyone who tests positive unless they start having symptoms again. The issue with that is football will be starting up in flu season so players could be suffering from the flu, but then get tested for Covid and have it show up positive when in actuality it’s just inactive remnants of the initial virus.
My advice would be for all players to get their flu shots now. I would also recommend testing for flu any symptomatic player that tests positive for Covid or has had Covid within the past 3 months. The likelihood of a true coinfection is less than 1%. They should consider a chest x-Ray as well if they are considering the possibility of co-infection.
One last side note, sorry.
Since swabs have proven to show positive Covid findings for 1-3 months after infection, it does call into question the accuracy of the Covid infection rates and death counts. Especially when you take into account the amount of “presumed” infections that have been counted.
With the updated survival rate data Covid 19 seems like a bad flu at this point.
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Re: one way how we are pulling off a season - testing

Post by ChowderAggie » September 26th, 2020, 12:37 pm

Machismo wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 10:59 am
hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 7:05 am
hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 6:54 am
Data to date show that a person who has had and recovered from COVID-19 may have low levels of virus in their bodies for up to 3 months after diagnosis. This means that if the person who has recovered from COVID-19 is retested within 3 months of initial infection, they may continue to have a positive test result, even though they are not spreading COVID-19.

There are no confirmed reports to date of a person being reinfected with COVID-19 within 3 months of initial infection. However, additional research is ongoing. Therefore, if a person who has recovered from COVID-19 has new symptoms of COVID-19, the person may need an evaluation for reinfection, especially if the person has had close contact with someone infected with COVID-19. The person should isolate and contact a healthcare provider to be evaluated for other causes of their symptoms, and possibly retested.


The conference needs to make sure to stop the tri-weekly testing on anyone who tests positive unless they start having symptoms again. The issue with that is football will be starting up in flu season so players could be suffering from the flu, but then get tested for Covid and have it show up positive when in actuality it’s just inactive remnants of the initial virus.
My advice would be for all players to get their flu shots now. I would also recommend testing for flu any symptomatic player that tests positive for Covid or has had Covid within the past 3 months. The likelihood of a true coinfection is less than 1%. They should consider a chest x-Ray as well if they are considering the possibility of co-infection.
One last side note, sorry.
Since swabs have proven to show positive Covid findings for 1-3 months after infection, it does call into question the accuracy of the Covid infection rates and death counts. Especially when you take into account the amount of “presumed” infections that have been counted.
With the updated survival rate data Covid 19 seems like a bad flu at this point.

According to Ohio State University Medical, COVICD is about 10 times more deadly than the flu.

https://wexnermedical.osu.edu/blog/how- ... u%20strain.

200,000 dead in about 7 months from COVID, whereas the flu kills about 35,000 in 12.

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Re: one way how we are pulling off a season - testing

Post by ChowderAggie » September 26th, 2020, 12:41 pm

USU78 wrote:
September 25th, 2020, 1:28 pm
Or, testing finds asymptomatic cases (but not hospitalizations or deaths) justifying extending encroachments and shutting down competition and other "useless" things that make life worthwhile. 'Cuz it's so dang fun to be in charge and make people do (or not do) things.

Several USU students that have COVID told me they were grateful they were tested because of waste water indicators. Instead of going home during a weekend, and potentially killing a family member, they isolate for a few days and are good to go.



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Re: one way how we are pulling off a season - testing

Post by Intermeddler » September 26th, 2020, 12:46 pm

ChowderAggie wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 12:37 pm
Machismo wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 10:59 am
hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 7:05 am
hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 6:54 am
Data to date show that a person who has had and recovered from COVID-19 may have low levels of virus in their bodies for up to 3 months after diagnosis. This means that if the person who has recovered from COVID-19 is retested within 3 months of initial infection, they may continue to have a positive test result, even though they are not spreading COVID-19.

There are no confirmed reports to date of a person being reinfected with COVID-19 within 3 months of initial infection. However, additional research is ongoing. Therefore, if a person who has recovered from COVID-19 has new symptoms of COVID-19, the person may need an evaluation for reinfection, especially if the person has had close contact with someone infected with COVID-19. The person should isolate and contact a healthcare provider to be evaluated for other causes of their symptoms, and possibly retested.


The conference needs to make sure to stop the tri-weekly testing on anyone who tests positive unless they start having symptoms again. The issue with that is football will be starting up in flu season so players could be suffering from the flu, but then get tested for Covid and have it show up positive when in actuality it’s just inactive remnants of the initial virus.
My advice would be for all players to get their flu shots now. I would also recommend testing for flu any symptomatic player that tests positive for Covid or has had Covid within the past 3 months. The likelihood of a true coinfection is less than 1%. They should consider a chest x-Ray as well if they are considering the possibility of co-infection.
One last side note, sorry.
Since swabs have proven to show positive Covid findings for 1-3 months after infection, it does call into question the accuracy of the Covid infection rates and death counts. Especially when you take into account the amount of “presumed” infections that have been counted.
With the updated survival rate data Covid 19 seems like a bad flu at this point.

According to Ohio State University Medical, COVICD is about 10 times more deadly than the flu.

https://wexnermedical.osu.edu/blog/how- ... u%20strain.

200,000 dead in about 7 months from COVID, whereas the flu kills about 35,000 in 12.

:rant:
That link is from April, which is ancient in covid times and no longer represents the thinking on the true IFR.

As long as we use 40 cycle PCR tests we’ll have inflated case numbers. They should cut the cycle to 30 or 34 max if they’re actually trying to find infectious people.



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Re: one way how we are pulling off a season - testing

Post by Machismo » September 26th, 2020, 1:43 pm

ChowderAggie wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 12:37 pm
Machismo wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 10:59 am
hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 7:05 am
hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 6:54 am
Data to date show that a person who has had and recovered from COVID-19 may have low levels of virus in their bodies for up to 3 months after diagnosis. This means that if the person who has recovered from COVID-19 is retested within 3 months of initial infection, they may continue to have a positive test result, even though they are not spreading COVID-19.

There are no confirmed reports to date of a person being reinfected with COVID-19 within 3 months of initial infection. However, additional research is ongoing. Therefore, if a person who has recovered from COVID-19 has new symptoms of COVID-19, the person may need an evaluation for reinfection, especially if the person has had close contact with someone infected with COVID-19. The person should isolate and contact a healthcare provider to be evaluated for other causes of their symptoms, and possibly retested.


The conference needs to make sure to stop the tri-weekly testing on anyone who tests positive unless they start having symptoms again. The issue with that is football will be starting up in flu season so players could be suffering from the flu, but then get tested for Covid and have it show up positive when in actuality it’s just inactive remnants of the initial virus.
My advice would be for all players to get their flu shots now. I would also recommend testing for flu any symptomatic player that tests positive for Covid or has had Covid within the past 3 months. The likelihood of a true coinfection is less than 1%. They should consider a chest x-Ray as well if they are considering the possibility of co-infection.
One last side note, sorry.
Since swabs have proven to show positive Covid findings for 1-3 months after infection, it does call into question the accuracy of the Covid infection rates and death counts. Especially when you take into account the amount of “presumed” infections that have been counted.
With the updated survival rate data Covid 19 seems like a bad flu at this point.

According to Ohio State University Medical, COVICD is about 10 times more deadly than the flu.

https://wexnermedical.osu.edu/blog/how- ... u%20strain.

200,000 dead in about 7 months from COVID, whereas the flu kills about 35,000 in 12.

:rant:
200K my a$$. Another guy I know at work 91 year old Grandma stopped eating because of dementia. So they did what they could do until she passed. Tested negative for Covid 19 but the death certificate said cause of death Covid 19.
She died from malnutrition.


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Re: one way how we are pulling off a season - testing

Post by ChowderAggie » September 26th, 2020, 1:49 pm

Machismo wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 1:43 pm
ChowderAggie wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 12:37 pm
Machismo wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 10:59 am
hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 7:05 am
hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 6:54 am
Data to date show that a person who has had and recovered from COVID-19 may have low levels of virus in their bodies for up to 3 months after diagnosis. This means that if the person who has recovered from COVID-19 is retested within 3 months of initial infection, they may continue to have a positive test result, even though they are not spreading COVID-19.

There are no confirmed reports to date of a person being reinfected with COVID-19 within 3 months of initial infection. However, additional research is ongoing. Therefore, if a person who has recovered from COVID-19 has new symptoms of COVID-19, the person may need an evaluation for reinfection, especially if the person has had close contact with someone infected with COVID-19. The person should isolate and contact a healthcare provider to be evaluated for other causes of their symptoms, and possibly retested.


The conference needs to make sure to stop the tri-weekly testing on anyone who tests positive unless they start having symptoms again. The issue with that is football will be starting up in flu season so players could be suffering from the flu, but then get tested for Covid and have it show up positive when in actuality it’s just inactive remnants of the initial virus.
My advice would be for all players to get their flu shots now. I would also recommend testing for flu any symptomatic player that tests positive for Covid or has had Covid within the past 3 months. The likelihood of a true coinfection is less than 1%. They should consider a chest x-Ray as well if they are considering the possibility of co-infection.
One last side note, sorry.
Since swabs have proven to show positive Covid findings for 1-3 months after infection, it does call into question the accuracy of the Covid infection rates and death counts. Especially when you take into account the amount of “presumed” infections that have been counted.
With the updated survival rate data Covid 19 seems like a bad flu at this point.

According to Ohio State University Medical, COVICD is about 10 times more deadly than the flu.

https://wexnermedical.osu.edu/blog/how- ... u%20strain.

200,000 dead in about 7 months from COVID, whereas the flu kills about 35,000 in 12.

:rant:
200K my a$$. Another guy I know at work 91 year old Grandma stopped eating because of dementia. So they did what they could do until she passed. Tested negative for Covid 19 but the death certificate said cause of death Covid 19.
She died from malnutrition.
Since you know a guy that knows a guy that died of malnutrition and tested negative for covid, you should contact all of the major medical centers like Mayo that are claiming over 200k deaths. I'm sure once they hear from you, they will adjust their numbers down by 1.



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Re: one way how we are pulling off a season - testing

Post by Machismo » September 26th, 2020, 1:54 pm

ChowderAggie wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 1:49 pm
Machismo wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 1:43 pm
ChowderAggie wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 12:37 pm
Machismo wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 10:59 am
hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 7:05 am
hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 6:54 am
Data to date show that a person who has had and recovered from COVID-19 may have low levels of virus in their bodies for up to 3 months after diagnosis. This means that if the person who has recovered from COVID-19 is retested within 3 months of initial infection, they may continue to have a positive test result, even though they are not spreading COVID-19.

There are no confirmed reports to date of a person being reinfected with COVID-19 within 3 months of initial infection. However, additional research is ongoing. Therefore, if a person who has recovered from COVID-19 has new symptoms of COVID-19, the person may need an evaluation for reinfection, especially if the person has had close contact with someone infected with COVID-19. The person should isolate and contact a healthcare provider to be evaluated for other causes of their symptoms, and possibly retested.


The conference needs to make sure to stop the tri-weekly testing on anyone who tests positive unless they start having symptoms again. The issue with that is football will be starting up in flu season so players could be suffering from the flu, but then get tested for Covid and have it show up positive when in actuality it’s just inactive remnants of the initial virus.
My advice would be for all players to get their flu shots now. I would also recommend testing for flu any symptomatic player that tests positive for Covid or has had Covid within the past 3 months. The likelihood of a true coinfection is less than 1%. They should consider a chest x-Ray as well if they are considering the possibility of co-infection.
One last side note, sorry.
Since swabs have proven to show positive Covid findings for 1-3 months after infection, it does call into question the accuracy of the Covid infection rates and death counts. Especially when you take into account the amount of “presumed” infections that have been counted.
With the updated survival rate data Covid 19 seems like a bad flu at this point.

According to Ohio State University Medical, COVICD is about 10 times more deadly than the flu.

https://wexnermedical.osu.edu/blog/how- ... u%20strain.

200,000 dead in about 7 months from COVID, whereas the flu kills about 35,000 in 12.

:rant:
200K my a$$. Another guy I know at work 91 year old Grandma stopped eating because of dementia. So they did what they could do until she passed. Tested negative for Covid 19 but the death certificate said cause of death Covid 19.
She died from malnutrition.
Since you know a guy that knows a guy that died of malnutrition and tested negative for covid, you should contact all of the major medical centers like Mayo that are claiming over 200k deaths. I'm sure once they hear from you, they will adjust their numbers down by 1.
It wasn't a guy it was his grandma. I've heard this now twice from people I know.
Florida is open for business now, it's time the rest of the Country does the same.


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Post by ChowderAggie » September 26th, 2020, 1:58 pm

Intermeddler wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 12:46 pm
ChowderAggie wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 12:37 pm
Machismo wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 10:59 am
hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 7:05 am
hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 6:54 am
Data to date show that a person who has had and recovered from COVID-19 may have low levels of virus in their bodies for up to 3 months after diagnosis. This means that if the person who has recovered from COVID-19 is retested within 3 months of initial infection, they may continue to have a positive test result, even though they are not spreading COVID-19.

There are no confirmed reports to date of a person being reinfected with COVID-19 within 3 months of initial infection. However, additional research is ongoing. Therefore, if a person who has recovered from COVID-19 has new symptoms of COVID-19, the person may need an evaluation for reinfection, especially if the person has had close contact with someone infected with COVID-19. The person should isolate and contact a healthcare provider to be evaluated for other causes of their symptoms, and possibly retested.


The conference needs to make sure to stop the tri-weekly testing on anyone who tests positive unless they start having symptoms again. The issue with that is football will be starting up in flu season so players could be suffering from the flu, but then get tested for Covid and have it show up positive when in actuality it’s just inactive remnants of the initial virus.
My advice would be for all players to get their flu shots now. I would also recommend testing for flu any symptomatic player that tests positive for Covid or has had Covid within the past 3 months. The likelihood of a true coinfection is less than 1%. They should consider a chest x-Ray as well if they are considering the possibility of co-infection.
One last side note, sorry.
Since swabs have proven to show positive Covid findings for 1-3 months after infection, it does call into question the accuracy of the Covid infection rates and death counts. Especially when you take into account the amount of “presumed” infections that have been counted.
With the updated survival rate data Covid 19 seems like a bad flu at this point.

According to Ohio State University Medical, COVICD is about 10 times more deadly than the flu.

https://wexnermedical.osu.edu/blog/how- ... u%20strain.

200,000 dead in about 7 months from COVID, whereas the flu kills about 35,000 in 12.

:rant:
That link is from April, which is ancient in covid times and no longer represents the thinking on the true IFR.

As long as we use 40 cycle PCR tests we’ll have inflated case numbers. They should cut the cycle to 30 or 34 max if they’re actually trying to find infectious people.

Johns Hopkins lists the same (10 times more deadly) in an article updated September 25th, 2020. You would think these top medical centers in the world should stop lying and get back to heart transplants, lung transplants, and cancer treatment.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/ ... vs-the-flu
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Re: one way how we are pulling off a season - testing

Post by ChowderAggie » September 26th, 2020, 2:04 pm

Machismo wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 1:54 pm
ChowderAggie wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 1:49 pm
Machismo wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 1:43 pm
ChowderAggie wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 12:37 pm
Machismo wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 10:59 am
hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 7:05 am
hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 6:54 am
Data to date show that a person who has had and recovered from COVID-19 may have low levels of virus in their bodies for up to 3 months after diagnosis. This means that if the person who has recovered from COVID-19 is retested within 3 months of initial infection, they may continue to have a positive test result, even though they are not spreading COVID-19.

There are no confirmed reports to date of a person being reinfected with COVID-19 within 3 months of initial infection. However, additional research is ongoing. Therefore, if a person who has recovered from COVID-19 has new symptoms of COVID-19, the person may need an evaluation for reinfection, especially if the person has had close contact with someone infected with COVID-19. The person should isolate and contact a healthcare provider to be evaluated for other causes of their symptoms, and possibly retested.


The conference needs to make sure to stop the tri-weekly testing on anyone who tests positive unless they start having symptoms again. The issue with that is football will be starting up in flu season so players could be suffering from the flu, but then get tested for Covid and have it show up positive when in actuality it’s just inactive remnants of the initial virus.
My advice would be for all players to get their flu shots now. I would also recommend testing for flu any symptomatic player that tests positive for Covid or has had Covid within the past 3 months. The likelihood of a true coinfection is less than 1%. They should consider a chest x-Ray as well if they are considering the possibility of co-infection.
One last side note, sorry.
Since swabs have proven to show positive Covid findings for 1-3 months after infection, it does call into question the accuracy of the Covid infection rates and death counts. Especially when you take into account the amount of “presumed” infections that have been counted.
With the updated survival rate data Covid 19 seems like a bad flu at this point.

According to Ohio State University Medical, COVICD is about 10 times more deadly than the flu.

https://wexnermedical.osu.edu/blog/how- ... u%20strain.

200,000 dead in about 7 months from COVID, whereas the flu kills about 35,000 in 12.

:rant:
200K my a$$. Another guy I know at work 91 year old Grandma stopped eating because of dementia. So they did what they could do until she passed. Tested negative for Covid 19 but the death certificate said cause of death Covid 19.
She died from malnutrition.
Since you know a guy that knows a guy that died of malnutrition and tested negative for covid, you should contact all of the major medical centers like Mayo that are claiming over 200k deaths. I'm sure once they hear from you, they will adjust their numbers down by 1.
It wasn't a guy it was his grandma. I've heard this now twice from people I know.
Florida is open for business now, it's time the rest of the Country does the same.
Hurry and let Mayo, Cleveland, Johns Hopkins, and Harvard Medical all know they are lying about the numbers, and need to reduce the COVID count by two.

And yea, Florida!!!! Most Covid deaths today. Congrats.
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Re: one way how we are pulling off a season - testing

Post by Machismo » September 26th, 2020, 2:09 pm

ChowderAggie wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 2:04 pm
Machismo wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 1:54 pm
ChowderAggie wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 1:49 pm
Machismo wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 1:43 pm
ChowderAggie wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 12:37 pm
Machismo wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 10:59 am
hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 7:05 am
hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 6:54 am
Data to date show that a person who has had and recovered from COVID-19 may have low levels of virus in their bodies for up to 3 months after diagnosis. This means that if the person who has recovered from COVID-19 is retested within 3 months of initial infection, they may continue to have a positive test result, even though they are not spreading COVID-19.

There are no confirmed reports to date of a person being reinfected with COVID-19 within 3 months of initial infection. However, additional research is ongoing. Therefore, if a person who has recovered from COVID-19 has new symptoms of COVID-19, the person may need an evaluation for reinfection, especially if the person has had close contact with someone infected with COVID-19. The person should isolate and contact a healthcare provider to be evaluated for other causes of their symptoms, and possibly retested.


The conference needs to make sure to stop the tri-weekly testing on anyone who tests positive unless they start having symptoms again. The issue with that is football will be starting up in flu season so players could be suffering from the flu, but then get tested for Covid and have it show up positive when in actuality it’s just inactive remnants of the initial virus.
My advice would be for all players to get their flu shots now. I would also recommend testing for flu any symptomatic player that tests positive for Covid or has had Covid within the past 3 months. The likelihood of a true coinfection is less than 1%. They should consider a chest x-Ray as well if they are considering the possibility of co-infection.
One last side note, sorry.
Since swabs have proven to show positive Covid findings for 1-3 months after infection, it does call into question the accuracy of the Covid infection rates and death counts. Especially when you take into account the amount of “presumed” infections that have been counted.
With the updated survival rate data Covid 19 seems like a bad flu at this point.

According to Ohio State University Medical, COVICD is about 10 times more deadly than the flu.

https://wexnermedical.osu.edu/blog/how- ... u%20strain.

200,000 dead in about 7 months from COVID, whereas the flu kills about 35,000 in 12.

:rant:
200K my a$$. Another guy I know at work 91 year old Grandma stopped eating because of dementia. So they did what they could do until she passed. Tested negative for Covid 19 but the death certificate said cause of death Covid 19.
She died from malnutrition.
Since you know a guy that knows a guy that died of malnutrition and tested negative for covid, you should contact all of the major medical centers like Mayo that are claiming over 200k deaths. I'm sure once they hear from you, they will adjust their numbers down by 1.
It wasn't a guy it was his grandma. I've heard this now twice from people I know.
Florida is open for business now, it's time the rest of the Country does the same.
Hurry and let Mayo, Cleveland, Johns Hopkins, and Harvard Medical all know they are lying about the numbers, and need to reduce the COVID count by two.
I've got plenty of other articles if you want to wander down this road.

“We’ve unfortunately had six pure, solely coronavirus deaths — six out of 3.3 million people,” County Supervisor Jim Desmond said on the radio show Armstrong & Getty Extra Large Interviews., The San Diego Union-Tribune reported. San Diego County had reported roughly 190 deaths at the time — the current number is 200.


https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/t ... ly-n394897


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Re: one way how we are pulling off a season - testing

Post by ChowderAggie » September 26th, 2020, 2:13 pm

Machismo wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 2:09 pm
ChowderAggie wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 2:04 pm
Machismo wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 1:54 pm
ChowderAggie wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 1:49 pm
Machismo wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 1:43 pm
ChowderAggie wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 12:37 pm
Machismo wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 10:59 am
hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 7:05 am
hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 6:54 am
Data to date show that a person who has had and recovered from COVID-19 may have low levels of virus in their bodies for up to 3 months after diagnosis. This means that if the person who has recovered from COVID-19 is retested within 3 months of initial infection, they may continue to have a positive test result, even though they are not spreading COVID-19.

There are no confirmed reports to date of a person being reinfected with COVID-19 within 3 months of initial infection. However, additional research is ongoing. Therefore, if a person who has recovered from COVID-19 has new symptoms of COVID-19, the person may need an evaluation for reinfection, especially if the person has had close contact with someone infected with COVID-19. The person should isolate and contact a healthcare provider to be evaluated for other causes of their symptoms, and possibly retested.


The conference needs to make sure to stop the tri-weekly testing on anyone who tests positive unless they start having symptoms again. The issue with that is football will be starting up in flu season so players could be suffering from the flu, but then get tested for Covid and have it show up positive when in actuality it’s just inactive remnants of the initial virus.
My advice would be for all players to get their flu shots now. I would also recommend testing for flu any symptomatic player that tests positive for Covid or has had Covid within the past 3 months. The likelihood of a true coinfection is less than 1%. They should consider a chest x-Ray as well if they are considering the possibility of co-infection.
One last side note, sorry.
Since swabs have proven to show positive Covid findings for 1-3 months after infection, it does call into question the accuracy of the Covid infection rates and death counts. Especially when you take into account the amount of “presumed” infections that have been counted.
With the updated survival rate data Covid 19 seems like a bad flu at this point.

According to Ohio State University Medical, COVICD is about 10 times more deadly than the flu.

https://wexnermedical.osu.edu/blog/how- ... u%20strain.

200,000 dead in about 7 months from COVID, whereas the flu kills about 35,000 in 12.

:rant:
200K my a$$. Another guy I know at work 91 year old Grandma stopped eating because of dementia. So they did what they could do until she passed. Tested negative for Covid 19 but the death certificate said cause of death Covid 19.
She died from malnutrition.
Since you know a guy that knows a guy that died of malnutrition and tested negative for covid, you should contact all of the major medical centers like Mayo that are claiming over 200k deaths. I'm sure once they hear from you, they will adjust their numbers down by 1.
It wasn't a guy it was his grandma. I've heard this now twice from people I know.
Florida is open for business now, it's time the rest of the Country does the same.
Hurry and let Mayo, Cleveland, Johns Hopkins, and Harvard Medical all know they are lying about the numbers, and need to reduce the COVID count by two.
I've got plenty of other articles if you want to wander down this road.

“We’ve unfortunately had six pure, solely coronavirus deaths — six out of 3.3 million people,” County Supervisor Jim Desmond said on the radio show Armstrong & Getty Extra Large Interviews., The San Diego Union-Tribune reported. San Diego County had reported roughly 190 deaths at the time — the current number is 200.


https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/t ... ly-n394897

Ha ha ha, PJmedia versus Johns Hopkins, Cleveland Clinic, Harvard, Stanford Medical, University of Washington Medical, Ohio State Medical, Mayo Clinic.........

https://local.theonion.com/tell-the-wor ... 1844932197



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Re: one way how we are pulling off a season - testing

Post by Machismo » September 26th, 2020, 2:19 pm

Gotta go with the CDC here wouldn't you agree Chowder?

CDC Director: ‘I Think You’re Correct’ About Inflated COVID Death Statistics

https://www.cnsnews.com/article/washing ... ovid-death


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Re: one way how we are pulling off a season - testing

Post by ChowderAggie » September 26th, 2020, 2:24 pm

Machismo wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 2:19 pm
Gotta go with the CDC here wouldn't you agree Chowder?

CDC Director: ‘I Think You’re Correct’ About Inflated COVID Death Statistics

https://www.cnsnews.com/article/washing ... ovid-death

Sure, let's go with the CDC official numbers, approved by CDC director:

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracke ... nlast7days
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Re: one way how we are pulling off a season - testing

Post by Machismo » September 26th, 2020, 2:38 pm

ChowderAggie wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 2:24 pm
Machismo wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 2:19 pm
Gotta go with the CDC here wouldn't you agree Chowder?

CDC Director: ‘I Think You’re Correct’ About Inflated COVID Death Statistics

https://www.cnsnews.com/article/washing ... ovid-death

Sure, let's go with the CDC official numbers, approved by CDC director:

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracke ... nlast7days
So the statistics that are being fed from the states to the CDC are inflated?
Shocker--

“[Giroir] acknowledges that the statistics he’s getting from the states are inflated. We found that the governor of Colorado, who was a Democrat, actually did research on this and found he had to get rid of 12% of the deaths that were recorded in the state,” Luetkemeyer said.


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Re: one way how we are pulling off a season - testing

Post by ChowderAggie » September 26th, 2020, 2:40 pm

Machismo wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 2:38 pm
ChowderAggie wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 2:24 pm
Machismo wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 2:19 pm
Gotta go with the CDC here wouldn't you agree Chowder?

CDC Director: ‘I Think You’re Correct’ About Inflated COVID Death Statistics

https://www.cnsnews.com/article/washing ... ovid-death

Sure, let's go with the CDC official numbers, approved by CDC director:

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracke ... nlast7days
So the statistics that are being fed from the states to the CDC are inflated?
Shocker--

“[Giroir] acknowledges that the statistics he’s getting from the states are inflated. We found that the governor of Colorado, who was a Democrat, actually did research on this and found he had to get rid of 12% of the deaths that were recorded in the state,” Luetkemeyer said.

Oh, and Florida, the state you are admiring for their handling of COVID, has the most deaths in the United States over the past 7 days -- according to the CDC, an organization we can both agree on. 691 deaths in Florida in the past 7 days.



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Re: one way how we are pulling off a season - testing

Post by ChowderAggie » September 26th, 2020, 2:43 pm

Machismo wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 2:38 pm
ChowderAggie wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 2:24 pm
Machismo wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 2:19 pm
Gotta go with the CDC here wouldn't you agree Chowder?

CDC Director: ‘I Think You’re Correct’ About Inflated COVID Death Statistics

https://www.cnsnews.com/article/washing ... ovid-death

Sure, let's go with the CDC official numbers, approved by CDC director:

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracke ... nlast7days
So the statistics that are being fed from the states to the CDC are inflated?
Shocker--

“[Giroir] acknowledges that the statistics he’s getting from the states are inflated. We found that the governor of Colorado, who was a Democrat, actually did research on this and found he had to get rid of 12% of the deaths that were recorded in the state,” Luetkemeyer said.
Wait, COVID cases are undercounted?


https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/ ... 7649a31d76

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspec ... ified-such


Oh, that's just Fauci and a study by Yale University.



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Re: one way how we are pulling off a season - testing

Post by Intermeddler » September 26th, 2020, 2:48 pm

ChowderAggie wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 1:58 pm
Intermeddler wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 12:46 pm
ChowderAggie wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 12:37 pm
Machismo wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 10:59 am
hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 7:05 am
hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 6:54 am
Data to date show that a person who has had and recovered from COVID-19 may have low levels of virus in their bodies for up to 3 months after diagnosis. This means that if the person who has recovered from COVID-19 is retested within 3 months of initial infection, they may continue to have a positive test result, even though they are not spreading COVID-19.

There are no confirmed reports to date of a person being reinfected with COVID-19 within 3 months of initial infection. However, additional research is ongoing. Therefore, if a person who has recovered from COVID-19 has new symptoms of COVID-19, the person may need an evaluation for reinfection, especially if the person has had close contact with someone infected with COVID-19. The person should isolate and contact a healthcare provider to be evaluated for other causes of their symptoms, and possibly retested.


The conference needs to make sure to stop the tri-weekly testing on anyone who tests positive unless they start having symptoms again. The issue with that is football will be starting up in flu season so players could be suffering from the flu, but then get tested for Covid and have it show up positive when in actuality it’s just inactive remnants of the initial virus.
My advice would be for all players to get their flu shots now. I would also recommend testing for flu any symptomatic player that tests positive for Covid or has had Covid within the past 3 months. The likelihood of a true coinfection is less than 1%. They should consider a chest x-Ray as well if they are considering the possibility of co-infection.
One last side note, sorry.
Since swabs have proven to show positive Covid findings for 1-3 months after infection, it does call into question the accuracy of the Covid infection rates and death counts. Especially when you take into account the amount of “presumed” infections that have been counted.
With the updated survival rate data Covid 19 seems like a bad flu at this point.

According to Ohio State University Medical, COVICD is about 10 times more deadly than the flu.

https://wexnermedical.osu.edu/blog/how- ... u%20strain.

200,000 dead in about 7 months from COVID, whereas the flu kills about 35,000 in 12.

:rant:
That link is from April, which is ancient in covid times and no longer represents the thinking on the true IFR.

As long as we use 40 cycle PCR tests we’ll have inflated case numbers. They should cut the cycle to 30 or 34 max if they’re actually trying to find infectious people.

Johns Hopkins lists the same (10 times more deadly) in an article updated September 25th, 2020. You would think these top medical centers in the world should stop lying and get back to heart transplants, lung transplants, and cancer treatment.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/ ... vs-the-flu
Your new link says scientists don’t know but it’s thought to be substantially higher maybe as high as 10x so it is speculative not conclusive. Any others you want to try?

Have you seen the latest CDC numbers on survival rates?



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Re: one way how we are pulling off a season - testing

Post by ChowderAggie » September 26th, 2020, 2:53 pm

Intermeddler wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 2:48 pm
ChowderAggie wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 1:58 pm
Intermeddler wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 12:46 pm
ChowderAggie wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 12:37 pm
Machismo wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 10:59 am
hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 7:05 am
hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 6:54 am
Data to date show that a person who has had and recovered from COVID-19 may have low levels of virus in their bodies for up to 3 months after diagnosis. This means that if the person who has recovered from COVID-19 is retested within 3 months of initial infection, they may continue to have a positive test result, even though they are not spreading COVID-19.

There are no confirmed reports to date of a person being reinfected with COVID-19 within 3 months of initial infection. However, additional research is ongoing. Therefore, if a person who has recovered from COVID-19 has new symptoms of COVID-19, the person may need an evaluation for reinfection, especially if the person has had close contact with someone infected with COVID-19. The person should isolate and contact a healthcare provider to be evaluated for other causes of their symptoms, and possibly retested.


The conference needs to make sure to stop the tri-weekly testing on anyone who tests positive unless they start having symptoms again. The issue with that is football will be starting up in flu season so players could be suffering from the flu, but then get tested for Covid and have it show up positive when in actuality it’s just inactive remnants of the initial virus.
My advice would be for all players to get their flu shots now. I would also recommend testing for flu any symptomatic player that tests positive for Covid or has had Covid within the past 3 months. The likelihood of a true coinfection is less than 1%. They should consider a chest x-Ray as well if they are considering the possibility of co-infection.
One last side note, sorry.
Since swabs have proven to show positive Covid findings for 1-3 months after infection, it does call into question the accuracy of the Covid infection rates and death counts. Especially when you take into account the amount of “presumed” infections that have been counted.
With the updated survival rate data Covid 19 seems like a bad flu at this point.

According to Ohio State University Medical, COVICD is about 10 times more deadly than the flu.

https://wexnermedical.osu.edu/blog/how- ... u%20strain.

200,000 dead in about 7 months from COVID, whereas the flu kills about 35,000 in 12.

:rant:
That link is from April, which is ancient in covid times and no longer represents the thinking on the true IFR.

As long as we use 40 cycle PCR tests we’ll have inflated case numbers. They should cut the cycle to 30 or 34 max if they’re actually trying to find infectious people.

Johns Hopkins lists the same (10 times more deadly) in an article updated September 25th, 2020. You would think these top medical centers in the world should stop lying and get back to heart transplants, lung transplants, and cancer treatment.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/ ... vs-the-flu
Your new link says scientists don’t know but it’s thought to be substantially higher maybe as high as 10x so it is speculative not conclusive. Any others you want to try?

Have you seen the latest CDC numbers on survival rates?
Actually, I agree 100% with you regarding the death rate. This is a new virus and it takes time to understand, especially given it can mutate. It may be more or less than 10x worse than the flu, but regardless, it’s not comparable. 200,000 deaths is the average for flu over 5-6 years. We expect around 400,000 deaths by Early. 2021....which is about 10 times the death count of an average flu year.



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Re: one way how we are pulling off a season - testing

Post by Intermeddler » September 26th, 2020, 2:59 pm

ChowderAggie wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 2:53 pm
Intermeddler wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 2:48 pm
ChowderAggie wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 1:58 pm
Intermeddler wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 12:46 pm
ChowderAggie wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 12:37 pm
Machismo wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 10:59 am
hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 7:05 am
hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 6:54 am
Data to date show that a person who has had and recovered from COVID-19 may have low levels of virus in their bodies for up to 3 months after diagnosis. This means that if the person who has recovered from COVID-19 is retested within 3 months of initial infection, they may continue to have a positive test result, even though they are not spreading COVID-19.

There are no confirmed reports to date of a person being reinfected with COVID-19 within 3 months of initial infection. However, additional research is ongoing. Therefore, if a person who has recovered from COVID-19 has new symptoms of COVID-19, the person may need an evaluation for reinfection, especially if the person has had close contact with someone infected with COVID-19. The person should isolate and contact a healthcare provider to be evaluated for other causes of their symptoms, and possibly retested.


The conference needs to make sure to stop the tri-weekly testing on anyone who tests positive unless they start having symptoms again. The issue with that is football will be starting up in flu season so players could be suffering from the flu, but then get tested for Covid and have it show up positive when in actuality it’s just inactive remnants of the initial virus.
My advice would be for all players to get their flu shots now. I would also recommend testing for flu any symptomatic player that tests positive for Covid or has had Covid within the past 3 months. The likelihood of a true coinfection is less than 1%. They should consider a chest x-Ray as well if they are considering the possibility of co-infection.
One last side note, sorry.
Since swabs have proven to show positive Covid findings for 1-3 months after infection, it does call into question the accuracy of the Covid infection rates and death counts. Especially when you take into account the amount of “presumed” infections that have been counted.
With the updated survival rate data Covid 19 seems like a bad flu at this point.

According to Ohio State University Medical, COVICD is about 10 times more deadly than the flu.

https://wexnermedical.osu.edu/blog/how- ... u%20strain.

200,000 dead in about 7 months from COVID, whereas the flu kills about 35,000 in 12.

:rant:
That link is from April, which is ancient in covid times and no longer represents the thinking on the true IFR.

As long as we use 40 cycle PCR tests we’ll have inflated case numbers. They should cut the cycle to 30 or 34 max if they’re actually trying to find infectious people.

Johns Hopkins lists the same (10 times more deadly) in an article updated September 25th, 2020. You would think these top medical centers in the world should stop lying and get back to heart transplants, lung transplants, and cancer treatment.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/ ... vs-the-flu
Your new link says scientists don’t know but it’s thought to be substantially higher maybe as high as 10x so it is speculative not conclusive. Any others you want to try?

Have you seen the latest CDC numbers on survival rates?
Actually, I agree 100% with you regarding the death rate. This is a new virus and it takes time to understand, especially given it can mutate. It may be more or less than 10x worse than the flu, but regardless, it’s not comparable. 200,000 deaths is the average for flu over 5-6 years. We expect around 400,000 deaths by Early. 2021....which is about 10 times the death count of an average flu year.
Agreed it’s going to be a much higher raw number due to no vaccine etc and it affects those who are otherwise vulnerable much more than the healthier group that seems perhaps more vulnerable to influenza.

I would be interested in a few things. If we tested for flu like we do for covid what would we find? How many flu deaths would there be (I think we generally underestimate how serious influenza can be). Also, what percentage of covid deaths were accelerated from deaths that would have occurred in the next 6-12 months from some other cause. Not that these lives are unimportant but it would be useful in evaluating raw risk.

I’ll also be very interested in how this flu season progresses.



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Re: one way how we are pulling off a season - testing

Post by ChowderAggie » September 26th, 2020, 3:14 pm

Intermeddler wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 2:59 pm
ChowderAggie wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 2:53 pm
Intermeddler wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 2:48 pm
ChowderAggie wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 1:58 pm
Intermeddler wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 12:46 pm
ChowderAggie wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 12:37 pm
Machismo wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 10:59 am
hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 7:05 am
hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 6:54 am
Data to date show that a person who has had and recovered from COVID-19 may have low levels of virus in their bodies for up to 3 months after diagnosis. This means that if the person who has recovered from COVID-19 is retested within 3 months of initial infection, they may continue to have a positive test result, even though they are not spreading COVID-19.

There are no confirmed reports to date of a person being reinfected with COVID-19 within 3 months of initial infection. However, additional research is ongoing. Therefore, if a person who has recovered from COVID-19 has new symptoms of COVID-19, the person may need an evaluation for reinfection, especially if the person has had close contact with someone infected with COVID-19. The person should isolate and contact a healthcare provider to be evaluated for other causes of their symptoms, and possibly retested.


The conference needs to make sure to stop the tri-weekly testing on anyone who tests positive unless they start having symptoms again. The issue with that is football will be starting up in flu season so players could be suffering from the flu, but then get tested for Covid and have it show up positive when in actuality it’s just inactive remnants of the initial virus.
My advice would be for all players to get their flu shots now. I would also recommend testing for flu any symptomatic player that tests positive for Covid or has had Covid within the past 3 months. The likelihood of a true coinfection is less than 1%. They should consider a chest x-Ray as well if they are considering the possibility of co-infection.
One last side note, sorry.
Since swabs have proven to show positive Covid findings for 1-3 months after infection, it does call into question the accuracy of the Covid infection rates and death counts. Especially when you take into account the amount of “presumed” infections that have been counted.
With the updated survival rate data Covid 19 seems like a bad flu at this point.

According to Ohio State University Medical, COVICD is about 10 times more deadly than the flu.

https://wexnermedical.osu.edu/blog/how- ... u%20strain.

200,000 dead in about 7 months from COVID, whereas the flu kills about 35,000 in 12.

:rant:
That link is from April, which is ancient in covid times and no longer represents the thinking on the true IFR.

As long as we use 40 cycle PCR tests we’ll have inflated case numbers. They should cut the cycle to 30 or 34 max if they’re actually trying to find infectious people.

Johns Hopkins lists the same (10 times more deadly) in an article updated September 25th, 2020. You would think these top medical centers in the world should stop lying and get back to heart transplants, lung transplants, and cancer treatment.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/ ... vs-the-flu
Your new link says scientists don’t know but it’s thought to be substantially higher maybe as high as 10x so it is speculative not conclusive. Any others you want to try?

Have you seen the latest CDC numbers on survival rates?
Actually, I agree 100% with you regarding the death rate. This is a new virus and it takes time to understand, especially given it can mutate. It may be more or less than 10x worse than the flu, but regardless, it’s not comparable. 200,000 deaths is the average for flu over 5-6 years. We expect around 400,000 deaths by Early. 2021....which is about 10 times the death count of an average flu year.
Agreed it’s going to be a much higher raw number due to no vaccine etc and it affects those who are otherwise vulnerable much more than the healthier group that seems perhaps more vulnerable to influenza.

I would be interested in a few things. If we tested for flu like we do for covid what would we find? How many flu deaths would there be (I think we generally underestimate how serious influenza can be). Also, what percentage of covid deaths were accelerated from deaths that would have occurred in the next 6-12 months from some other cause. Not that these lives are unimportant but it would be useful in evaluating raw risk.

I’ll also be very interested in how this flu season progresses.
Wow, touchdown Texas Tech. My wife is from San Antonio, Texas, so I have to watch all things Texas.

While some COVID attributions have been incorrect, I agree with the Yale study that the actual COVID count is higher. I also agree with you that influenza is likely higher, for the same reason.

With protections in place, wouldn't you expect flu season to be lower than normal, at least in states other than Florida?



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Re: one way how we are pulling off a season - testing

Post by Intermeddler » September 26th, 2020, 3:43 pm

Yes I think that’s a logical conclusion and is what the Southern Hemisphere experienced this summer. Hopefully it’s true here too.
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Re: one way how we are pulling off a season - testing

Post by ChowderAggie » September 26th, 2020, 3:51 pm

Intermeddler wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 3:43 pm
Yes I think that’s a logical conclusion and is what the Southern Hemisphere experienced this summer. Hopefully it’s true here too.
Wait, there is a Southern Hemisphere? I had a friend's grandma tell me she took a walk and didn't notice a curved Earth. As such, she believes it's flat.

That's not directed at you, Intermeddler, but those that disregard our world-class medical centers regarding COVID based on anecdotal speculation.

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Re: one way how we are pulling off a season - testing

Post by Aggie formerly in Hawaii » September 26th, 2020, 6:27 pm

ChowderAggie wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 3:51 pm
Intermeddler wrote:
September 26th, 2020, 3:43 pm
Yes I think that’s a logical conclusion and is what the Southern Hemisphere experienced this summer. Hopefully it’s true here too.
Wait, there is a Southern Hemisphere? I had a friend's grandma tell me she took a walk and didn't notice a curved Earth. As such, she believes it's flat.

That's not directed at you, Intermeddler, but those that disregard our world-class medical centers regarding COVID based on anecdotal speculation.

:cheers:
You would be surprised how many flat earthers actually exist.
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Re: one way how we are pulling off a season - testing

Post by USU78 » September 26th, 2020, 9:12 pm

When the northern hemisphere is having summer, the southern hemisphere is having winter. Flu and cold season in the south happens when we're having summer.

Thus what is being observed this summer in Australia stands a good chance of happening during our flu and cold season.

How is this controversial? Why should this invite sneering disdain?


You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

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