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Post by SlumJum » August 28th, 2020, 10:08 am




Any chance the mountain West could do the same?
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Re: Big 10

Post by NavyBlueAggie » August 28th, 2020, 10:33 am

Appears the reality of BIG BANK has caused some heavy reconsideration by the BIG 10. Without football T V, premium sales and gate money the ensuring potential dollars from T V including bowl games, the collegiate financials get very thin.



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Re: Big 10

Post by slcagg » August 28th, 2020, 10:46 am

NavyBlueAggie wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 10:33 am
Appears the reality of BIG BANK has caused some heavy reconsideration by the BIG 10. Without football T V, premium sales and gate money the ensuring potential dollars from T V including bowl games, the collegiate financials get very thin.
And add to the fact that a lot of the other players want to play.



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Re: Big 10

Post by Intermeddler » August 28th, 2020, 10:48 am

slcagg wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 10:46 am
NavyBlueAggie wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 10:33 am
Appears the reality of BIG BANK has caused some heavy reconsideration by the BIG 10. Without football T V, premium sales and gate money the ensuring potential dollars from T V including bowl games, the collegiate financials get very thin.
And add to the fact that a lot of the other players want to play.
And the JAMA study they were so reliant on has been thoroughly debunked.
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Re: Big 10

Post by aggies22 » August 28th, 2020, 10:50 am

Intermeddler wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 10:48 am
slcagg wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 10:46 am
NavyBlueAggie wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 10:33 am
Appears the reality of BIG BANK has caused some heavy reconsideration by the BIG 10. Without football T V, premium sales and gate money the ensuring potential dollars from T V including bowl games, the collegiate financials get very thin.
And add to the fact that a lot of the other players want to play.
And the JAMA study they were so reliant on has been thoroughly debunked.
And the fact that high school football around the country is going off without many hiccups. A canceled/postponed game here and there but the $hit hasn't hit the fan like we have been told that it would.
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Re: Big 10

Post by aggies22 » August 28th, 2020, 10:51 am

SlumJum wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 10:08 am



Any chance the mountain West could do the same?
If the BIG 10 moves forward, the Mountain West, MAC, and the PAC-12 better seriously reconsider.
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Re: Big 10

Post by Aggie formerly in Hawaii » August 28th, 2020, 11:20 am

It would be insane for Ohio State's football to be cancelled this year. They are the preseason number one ranked team in many polls from 247sports to Phil Steele. Take precautions, but play on.
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Re: Big 10

Post by Aggie84025 » August 28th, 2020, 11:26 am

We definitely should reverse course. We should have never cancelled when we did. We already had postponed the start to 9/26 the conference should have waited like any sane person would and cancel if or when issues arose.
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Re: Big 10

Post by ratofallaggies » August 28th, 2020, 11:48 am

aggies22 wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 10:50 am
Intermeddler wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 10:48 am
slcagg wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 10:46 am
NavyBlueAggie wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 10:33 am
Appears the reality of BIG BANK has caused some heavy reconsideration by the BIG 10. Without football T V, premium sales and gate money the ensuring potential dollars from T V including bowl games, the collegiate financials get very thin.
And add to the fact that a lot of the other players want to play.
And the JAMA study they were so reliant on has been thoroughly debunked.
And the fact that high school football around the country is going off without many hiccups. A canceled/postponed game here and there but the $hit hasn't hit the fan like we have been told that it would.
And add that the commissioner has been caught with his pants down by all the FOIA requests, lawsuits, and parent protests that he's trying to save face. Gotta think that if this goes through, he's going to be canned.
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Re: Big 10

Post by aggies22 » August 28th, 2020, 11:54 am

ratofallaggies wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 11:48 am
aggies22 wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 10:50 am
Intermeddler wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 10:48 am
slcagg wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 10:46 am
NavyBlueAggie wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 10:33 am
Appears the reality of BIG BANK has caused some heavy reconsideration by the BIG 10. Without football T V, premium sales and gate money the ensuring potential dollars from T V including bowl games, the collegiate financials get very thin.
And add to the fact that a lot of the other players want to play.
And the JAMA study they were so reliant on has been thoroughly debunked.
And the fact that high school football around the country is going off without many hiccups. A canceled/postponed game here and there but the $hit hasn't hit the fan like we have been told that it would.
And add that the commissioner has been caught with his pants down by all the FOIA requests, lawsuits, and parent protests that he's trying to save face. Gotta think that if this goes through, he's going to be canned.
Since you brought up lawsuits my Aggie brother, I can see it now, when the six conferences pull it off and COMPLETE their seasons and the VERY SAME PAC-12 players that tried to pull the jack move when they listed all those ridiculous demands, now file suit claiming that the PAC-12 jeopardized their DRAFT STATUS and endangered their ability for FUTURE EARNINGS by NOT PLAYING.
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Re: Big 10

Post by Madmartigan » August 28th, 2020, 11:59 am

Would be amazing if they reversed course. One question I have for USU and the MW in particular: Can the programs sustain a season where there are no/severely limited fans in the stands? I would guess USU would take a big loss financially if this happens, but unknown if that loss would be bigger than a complete lack of football and TV revenue.



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Re: Big 10

Post by ratofallaggies » August 28th, 2020, 12:04 pm

Madmartigan wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 11:59 am
Would be amazing if they reversed course. One question I have for USU and the MW in particular: Can the programs sustain a season where there are no/severely limited fans in the stands? I would guess USU would take a big loss financially if this happens, but unknown if that loss would be bigger than a complete lack of football and TV revenue.
Clemson is having fans, HS football has fans, Cowboys/Chiefs/Dolphins/Jags all are having fans.
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Re: Big 10

Post by aggies22 » August 28th, 2020, 12:17 pm

Madmartigan wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 11:59 am
Would be amazing if they reversed course. One question I have for USU and the MW in particular: Can the programs sustain a season where there are no/severely limited fans in the stands? I would guess USU would take a big loss financially if this happens, but unknown if that loss would be bigger than a complete lack of football and TV revenue.
Personally, I think that getting SOME TV revenue instead of NO TV revenue would be beneficial.
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Re: Big 10

Post by ratofallaggies » August 28th, 2020, 12:52 pm

BTW - I hate to do this but.... it's very convenient to want to start to season after thanksgiving.... wonder why they can't do it in October or late September?



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Re: Big 10

Post by aggies22 » August 28th, 2020, 1:13 pm

ratofallaggies wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 12:52 pm
BTW - I hate to do this but.... it's very convenient to want to start to season after thanksgiving.... wonder why they can't do it in October or late September?
What are your thoughts bro?



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Re: Big 10

Post by ratofallaggies » August 28th, 2020, 1:17 pm

aggies22 wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 1:13 pm
ratofallaggies wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 12:52 pm
BTW - I hate to do this but.... it's very convenient to want to start to season after thanksgiving.... wonder why they can't do it in October or late September?
What are your thoughts bro?
Just odd that the election is in the first of November and that they want to wait till the end of November to play.
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Re: Big 10

Post by aggies22 » August 28th, 2020, 1:29 pm

ratofallaggies wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 1:17 pm
aggies22 wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 1:13 pm
ratofallaggies wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 12:52 pm
BTW - I hate to do this but.... it's very convenient to want to start to season after thanksgiving.... wonder why they can't do it in October or late September?
What are your thoughts bro?
Just odd that the election is in the first of November and that they want to wait till the end of November to play.
I gotcha!
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Re: Big 10

Post by NavyBlueAggie » August 28th, 2020, 2:09 pm

Aggie84025 wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 11:26 am
We definitely should reverse course. We should have never cancelled when we did. We already had postponed the start to 9/26 the conference should have waited like any sane person would and cancel if or when issues arose.
I believe school presidents have little personal money to lose, and certainly tort attorneys who advised the decision makers at the schools have little to lose except "billable hours" for their opinions. Mt view is the cancellation of the football season in various conferences was a rush to the life boats.



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Re: Big 10

Post by Madmartigan » August 28th, 2020, 2:25 pm

ratofallaggies wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 12:04 pm
Madmartigan wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 11:59 am
Would be amazing if they reversed course. One question I have for USU and the MW in particular: Can the programs sustain a season where there are no/severely limited fans in the stands? I would guess USU would take a big loss financially if this happens, but unknown if that loss would be bigger than a complete lack of football and TV revenue.
Clemson is having fans, HS football has fans, Cowboys/Chiefs/Dolphins/Jags all are having fans.
It is helpful that outdoor transmission of the COvids is greatly dampened almost non-existent. You know where I'll be if I'm allowed....
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Re: Big 10

Post by NavyBlueAggie » August 28th, 2020, 2:30 pm

ratofallaggies wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 1:17 pm
aggies22 wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 1:13 pm
ratofallaggies wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 12:52 pm
BTW - I hate to do this but.... it's very convenient to want to start to season after thanksgiving.... wonder why they can't do it in October or late September?
What are your thoughts bro?
Just odd that the election is in the first of November and that they want to wait till the end of November to play.
Appears you are onto something with your timeline thoughts Aglicious. Seems like politics are in full bloom, blossom or blame here. I also would note these same politics have the down wind fragrance of a ripe corral.



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Re: Big 10

Post by ratofallaggies » August 28th, 2020, 5:05 pm

NavyBlueAggie wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 2:30 pm
ratofallaggies wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 1:17 pm
aggies22 wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 1:13 pm
ratofallaggies wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 12:52 pm
BTW - I hate to do this but.... it's very convenient to want to start to season after thanksgiving.... wonder why they can't do it in October or late September?
What are your thoughts bro?
Just odd that the election is in the first of November and that they want to wait till the end of November to play.
Appears you are onto something with your timeline thoughts Aglicious. Seems like politics are in full bloom, blossom or blame here. I also would note these same politics have the down wind fragrance of a ripe corral.
Two governors from swing states call in to try and heavily influence the league's shutdown, they then decide to possibility of playing after the elections (after all the FOIA requests, multiple parent organizations protesting outside their offices, and athlete lawsuits being filed), and now this kind of ad coming out... Just stating facts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... =emb_title
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Re: Big 10

Post by mike1126 » August 28th, 2020, 5:53 pm

Trump said he wants to see all conferences open up and play.
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Re: Big 10

Post by aggies22 » August 28th, 2020, 5:58 pm

mike1126 wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 5:53 pm
Trump said he wants to see all conferences open up and play.
Aggies22 says I want to see all conferences open up and play.
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Re: Big 10

Post by slcagg » August 28th, 2020, 6:09 pm

ratofallaggies wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 5:05 pm
NavyBlueAggie wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 2:30 pm
ratofallaggies wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 1:17 pm
aggies22 wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 1:13 pm
ratofallaggies wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 12:52 pm
BTW - I hate to do this but.... it's very convenient to want to start to season after thanksgiving.... wonder why they can't do it in October or late September?
What are your thoughts bro?
Just odd that the election is in the first of November and that they want to wait till the end of November to play.
Appears you are onto something with your timeline thoughts Aglicious. Seems like politics are in full bloom, blossom or blame here. I also would note these same politics have the down wind fragrance of a ripe corral.
Two governors from swing states call in to try and heavily influence the league's shutdown, they then decide to possibility of playing after the elections (after all the FOIA requests, multiple parent organizations protesting outside their offices, and athlete lawsuits being filed), and now this kind of ad coming out... Just stating facts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... =emb_title
Let me guess. One of them is from Wisconsin? The other 2 possibilities are Michigan and Minnesota.



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Re: Big 10

Post by ViAggie » August 28th, 2020, 6:34 pm

PAC 12 is starting to make noise about being able to play a shortened schedule this fall, keep your eyes peeled, will the MWC follow?
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Re: Big 10

Post by ratofallaggies » August 28th, 2020, 6:38 pm

slcagg wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 6:09 pm
ratofallaggies wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 5:05 pm
NavyBlueAggie wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 2:30 pm
ratofallaggies wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 1:17 pm
aggies22 wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 1:13 pm
ratofallaggies wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 12:52 pm
BTW - I hate to do this but.... it's very convenient to want to start to season after thanksgiving.... wonder why they can't do it in October or late September?
What are your thoughts bro?
Just odd that the election is in the first of November and that they want to wait till the end of November to play.
Appears you are onto something with your timeline thoughts Aglicious. Seems like politics are in full bloom, blossom or blame here. I also would note these same politics have the down wind fragrance of a ripe corral.
Two governors from swing states call in to try and heavily influence the league's shutdown, they then decide to possibility of playing after the elections (after all the FOIA requests, multiple parent organizations protesting outside their offices, and athlete lawsuits being filed), and now this kind of ad coming out... Just stating facts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... =emb_title
Let me guess. One of them is from Wisconsin? The other 2 possibilities are Michigan and Minnesota.
Yep - Michigan and Minn were the two
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Re: Big 10

Post by slcagg » August 28th, 2020, 8:23 pm

ratofallaggies wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 1:17 pm
aggies22 wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 1:13 pm
ratofallaggies wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 12:52 pm
BTW - I hate to do this but.... it's very convenient to want to start to season after thanksgiving.... wonder why they can't do it in October or late September?
What are your thoughts bro?
Just odd that the election is in the first of November and that they want to wait till the end of November to play.
What’s even more odd is late November is the start of flu season where-as one could argue that early fall is a much better time to play due the colder months being a time that the flu and likely Covid are more present. They look foolish.
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Re: Big 10

Post by slcagg » August 28th, 2020, 8:28 pm

ViAggie wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 6:34 pm
PAC 12 is starting to make noise about being able to play a shortened schedule this fall, keep your eyes peeled, will the MWC follow?
Anyone with teams in or near Seattle, Portland and California will not have those teams playing this year. I mean the only acceptable thing to go out and do right now in these places is buy alcohol, smoke pot and riot (obviously some exaggeration here). In all seriousness I don’t see west coast teams being allowed to let this happen. But hope I’m wrong.
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Re: Big 10

Post by Aggie84025 » August 28th, 2020, 10:07 pm

This is so depressing for me. Watching high school ESPN from the state of Utah. There is no reason the MW could not have made it work this fall. At a minimum we didnt need to cancel right now. Now we have to see BYU as the only team in the west play football and none of their players lose eligibility while gaining more experience. Just a flat out mess that could have been handled better.



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Re: Big 10

Post by slcagg » August 29th, 2020, 7:11 am

Aggie84025 wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 10:07 pm
This is so depressing for me. Watching high school ESPN from the state of Utah. There is no reason the MW could not have made it work this fall. At a minimum we didnt need to cancel right now. Now we have to see BYU as the only team in the west play football and none of their players lose eligibility while gaining more experience. Just a flat out mess that could have been handled better.
And espn is going to pump them up (BYU) to get people to watch. The navy and BYU game will have really good ratings. Which ticks me off even more about the mountain west. Was a great opportunity to carry the western us.
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Re: Big 10

Post by stwinward » August 29th, 2020, 7:35 am

aggies22 wrote:
August 28th, 2020, 5:58 pm
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Trump said he wants to see all conferences open up and play.
Aggies22 says I want to see all conferences open up and play.
... And I approve of this message
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Re: Big 10

Post by cbingham » August 29th, 2020, 7:57 am

I went to an NFL playoff game in Minneapolis that was outside in January. I wish the Big14 luck playing football in the upper Midwest in Late December / January... #stillJV



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Re: Big 10

Post by OKAggie » August 29th, 2020, 8:16 am

cbingham wrote:
August 29th, 2020, 7:57 am
I went to an NFL playoff game in Minneapolis that was outside in January. I wish the Big14 luck playing football in the upper Midwest in Late December / January... #stillJV
Looks like they're looking at indoor venues in Indy, Minneapolis and Detroit. Maybe doubleheaders in all three cities, with a Friday night game to make seven for the 14 teams (my surmise, not the article's.)

Competing with the NFL playoffs might be a bigger issue.


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Re: Big 10

Post by slcagg » August 30th, 2020, 7:31 am

CDC updated their numbers last week (quietly) and say of the 180k people listed as with Covid the reason of death in the US. Only 9k died solely of Covid.

If this is accurate, then these kids who are healthy with no underlying health issues should be allowed to play.
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Re: Big 10

Post by Texasaggie1 » August 30th, 2020, 7:58 am

I also wonder if the not playing until after Thanksgiving is because most schools are going remote after the break. This would mean their teams would be in a little more like a bubble atmosphere without as many students on campus.



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