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Post by thegreendalegelf » August 10th, 2020, 9:53 am

Right now the only hope for college football happening is the SEC. They will be the last conference to close the doors. They aren't canceling unless they HAVE to.



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Post by ViAggie » August 10th, 2020, 9:55 am

thegreendalegelf wrote:
August 10th, 2020, 9:53 am
Right now the only hope for college football happening is the SEC. They will be the last conference to close the doors. They aren't canceling unless they HAVE to.
So we're holding out for the SEC? My guess is that they'll cancel by the end of the week.


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Post by thegreendalegelf » August 10th, 2020, 9:56 am

ViAggie wrote:
August 10th, 2020, 9:55 am
thegreendalegelf wrote:
August 10th, 2020, 9:53 am
Right now the only hope for college football happening is the SEC. They will be the last conference to close the doors. They aren't canceling unless they HAVE to.
So we're holding out for the SEC? My guess is that they'll cancel by the end of the week.
I give them a 5% chance at playing a single game. Everyone else is <1%. So no I'm not holding my breath.



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Post by NowhereLandAggie » August 10th, 2020, 10:01 am

It will probably be Spring football, the PAC-12 will be next.

There is no way bowls can happen if only 2-3 conferences play, fall football isn't happening. There should be a vaccine by December, that could make March football possible.



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Post by thegreendalegelf » August 10th, 2020, 10:03 am

NowhereLandAggie wrote:
August 10th, 2020, 10:01 am
It will probably be Spring football, the PAC-12 will be next.

There is no way bowls can happen if only 2-3 conferences play, fall football isn't happening. There should be a vaccine by December, that could make March football possible.
I hope we get spring football.



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Post by Yossarian » August 10th, 2020, 10:24 am

thegreendalegelf wrote:
August 10th, 2020, 10:03 am
NowhereLandAggie wrote:
August 10th, 2020, 10:01 am
It will probably be Spring football, the PAC-12 will be next.

There is no way bowls can happen if only 2-3 conferences play, fall football isn't happening. There should be a vaccine by December, that could make March football possible.
I hope we get spring football.
I would have a Plan B ready if you're counting on spring football.



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Re: It's over - pack up and go home

Post by 2004AG » August 10th, 2020, 10:33 am

Spring football isn’t happening. I wish people would stop hiding behind that.

With the current mass hysteria, I think fall 2021 is 50/50


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Post by Aggie formerly in Hawaii » August 10th, 2020, 10:39 am

2004AG wrote:
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Spring football isn’t happening. I wish people would stop hiding behind that.

With the current mass hysteria, I think fall 2021 is 50/50


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At this point I just hope we get a semblance of a college basketball season. Already I believe everyone at the ncaa should be fired over this. You cant produce a season after 5 months? Pure incompetence.



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Post by 2004AG » August 10th, 2020, 10:47 am

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2004AG wrote:
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Spring football isn’t happening. I wish people would stop hiding behind that.

With the current mass hysteria, I think fall 2021 is 50/50


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At this point I just hope we get a semblance of a college basketball season. Already I believe everyone at the ncaa should be fired over this. You cant produce a season after 5 months? Pure incompetence.
College basketball isn’t happening either if this is their current response.


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Post by Aggie84025 » August 10th, 2020, 10:53 am

2004AG wrote:
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Spring football isn’t happening. I wish people would stop hiding behind that.

With the current mass hysteria, I think fall 2021 is 50/50


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it is way lower than 50/50 at this point. at this point unless we have completely eradicated covid-19 and there are 0 confirmed cases will schools be allowed to play.



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Post by Aggie84025 » August 10th, 2020, 10:54 am

close up shop and cancel all sports going forward as there is just way too much risk in this world. everyone get to their basement and do not enter the outside world. there is a chance you can get sick and die.
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Re: It's over - pack up and go home

Post by aggies22 » August 10th, 2020, 11:04 am

Does this mean we will no longer have to see doom and gloom posts anymore?? Please say yes. This $hit is ridiculous and I'm pissed.



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Post by ViAggie » August 10th, 2020, 11:16 am

2004AG wrote:
August 10th, 2020, 10:33 am
Spring football isn’t happening. I wish people would stop hiding behind that.

With the current mass hysteria, I think fall 2021 is 50/50


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Happy? :joking:


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Post by ViAggie » August 10th, 2020, 11:17 am

aggies22 wrote:
August 10th, 2020, 11:04 am
Does this mean we will no longer have to see doom and gloom posts anymore?? Please say yes. This $hit is ridiculous and I'm pissed.
Doom and gloom? Sorry, my magical thinking skills suck, I'm sorry I live in the real world. My bad :noidea:


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Post by Aggie formerly in Hawaii » August 10th, 2020, 11:27 am

2004AG wrote:
August 10th, 2020, 10:47 am
Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote:
2004AG wrote:
August 10th, 2020, 10:33 am
Spring football isn’t happening. I wish people would stop hiding behind that.

With the current mass hysteria, I think fall 2021 is 50/50


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At this point I just hope we get a semblance of a college basketball season. Already I believe everyone at the ncaa should be fired over this. You cant produce a season after 5 months? Pure incompetence.
College basketball isn’t happening either if this is their current response.


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Yeah this might kill high level college sports in America. There will still be college sports after this obviously, but if I'm the NFL or another group I get a pro minor league going asap. You honestly think these players want to sit at home for the next 4 months? And once that ball is rolling, it won't stop. Same with basketball if they can't figure out how to get the season going.



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Post by Aggie formerly in Hawaii » August 10th, 2020, 11:29 am

ViAggie wrote:
August 10th, 2020, 11:17 am
aggies22 wrote:
August 10th, 2020, 11:04 am
Does this mean we will no longer have to see doom and gloom posts anymore?? Please say yes. This $hit is ridiculous and I'm pissed.
Doom and gloom? Sorry, my magical thinking skills suck, I'm sorry I live in the real world. My bad :noidea:
There is a balance between taking covid seriously and taking precautions and the flipside of just shutting down the world. You don't have to believe it is a hoax or think it is no big deal to also believe we should proceed with life. There certainly should be precautions and protocols set in place, but to just flat out cancel the season is ridiculous. Cancelling the basketball season would be even more ridiculous which probably happens at this point.
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Post by ViAggie » August 10th, 2020, 11:32 am

Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote:
August 10th, 2020, 11:29 am
ViAggie wrote:
August 10th, 2020, 11:17 am
aggies22 wrote:
August 10th, 2020, 11:04 am
Does this mean we will no longer have to see doom and gloom posts anymore?? Please say yes. This $hit is ridiculous and I'm pissed.
Doom and gloom? Sorry, my magical thinking skills suck, I'm sorry I live in the real world. My bad :noidea:
There is a balance between taking covid seriously and taking precautions and the flipside of just shutting down the world. You don't have to believe it is a hoax or think it is no big deal to also believe we should proceed with life. There certainly should be precautions and protocols set in place, but to just flat out cancel the season is ridiculous. Cancelling the basketball season would be even more ridiculous which probably happens at this point.
I hate to usurp a FB thread and turn it into a BB thread, but couldn't college BB do something similar to the way they do it for the NBA? Maybe some regional bubbles, and just let everyone get their season done w/in a month or so? Iduno? :noidea:


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Post by Aggie84025 » August 10th, 2020, 11:32 am

What bother me the most is we did not even try to make it work. Put protocols in place and give it a go, if things go south then I have no problem with cancelling. To just cancel it especially after releasing schedules etc is really frustrating.
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Post by ViAggie » August 10th, 2020, 11:36 am

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What bother me the most is we did not even try to make it work. Put protocols in place and give it a go, if things go south then I have no problem with cancelling. To just cancel it especially after releasing schedules etc is really frustrating.
Well to be fair, WE haven't done anything yet. Maybe the MWC will join up with the SEC et al for a a season?


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Post by oleblu111 » August 10th, 2020, 11:54 am

First of all the Universities control the NCAA, so for those that think they have anything to do with no season played are wrong, The CEO's of the Big Ten conference decided it was not worth the risk to hold football this season I understand why they would feel this way.

Safety is the the biggest concern they face, and of course the lawsuit's that would follow any exposure by fans or players to this disease , until there are better treatments they will, and should be shut down.

A big problem I see is what happens if there is no season in 2020 do all scholarship seniors remain eligible if so what happens to the incoming class in 2021 would that not put us over the 85 limit ? If seniors remain on scholarship I can not see how you can keep them for the next season, and honor the commitments to the new kids, of course all kids may lose a year to this problem.



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Post by kofdog » August 10th, 2020, 11:58 am

High school is happening, I've already even seen a scrimmage. Yes, what will happen to the seniors on both levels?



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Post by thegreendalegelf » August 10th, 2020, 12:16 pm

ViAggie wrote:
August 10th, 2020, 11:32 am
Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote:
August 10th, 2020, 11:29 am
ViAggie wrote:
August 10th, 2020, 11:17 am
aggies22 wrote:
August 10th, 2020, 11:04 am
Does this mean we will no longer have to see doom and gloom posts anymore?? Please say yes. This $hit is ridiculous and I'm pissed.
Doom and gloom? Sorry, my magical thinking skills suck, I'm sorry I live in the real world. My bad :noidea:
There is a balance between taking covid seriously and taking precautions and the flipside of just shutting down the world. You don't have to believe it is a hoax or think it is no big deal to also believe we should proceed with life. There certainly should be precautions and protocols set in place, but to just flat out cancel the season is ridiculous. Cancelling the basketball season would be even more ridiculous which probably happens at this point.
I hate to usurp a FB thread and turn it into a BB thread, but couldn't college BB do something similar to the way they do it for the NBA? Maybe some regional bubbles, and just let everyone get their season done w/in a month or so? Iduno? :noidea:
By doing that they are recognizing that student athletes are not students first. It certainly is possible but it would blow up the idea of collegiate sports as they stand right now. Such a bubble would require unions to negotiate the terms just to start it off. And the players unionizing is killing the season just as much if not more than the virus is.



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Post by Yossarian » August 10th, 2020, 12:20 pm

oleblu111 wrote:
August 10th, 2020, 11:54 am
First of all the Universities control the NCAA, so for those that think they have anything to do with no season played are wrong, The CEO's of the Big Ten conference decided it was not worth the risk to hold football this season I understand why they would feel this way.

Safety is the the biggest concern they face, and of course the lawsuit's that would follow any exposure by fans or players to this disease , until there are better treatments they will, and should be shut down.

A big problem I see is what happens if there is no season in 2020 do all scholarship seniors remain eligible if so what happens to the incoming class in 2021 would that not put us over the 85 limit ? If seniors remain on scholarship I can not see how you can keep them for the next season, and honor the commitments to the new kids, of course all kids may lose a year to this problem.
Can't the universities honor the scholarships of the seniors even though there is not a season? They would get their school paid for the year and they would move on with their lives. They are students, after all. Nowhere in their scholarship agreement does it say that a football season is guaranteed, I would guess. It sucks, but life isn't always fair. If they want to pursue a career in professional football, they can contact an agent to try and make that work. Otherwise, they have (presumably) 4 or 5 years of education paid for by someone else with which they can go out into the world and seek work like the rest of us. The next crop of high school kids or transfers will come in with the same set of rules. They will be offered scholarships, but no guarantee that they will play.
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Post by oleblu111 » August 10th, 2020, 12:27 pm

Yossarian wrote:
August 10th, 2020, 12:20 pm
oleblu111 wrote:
August 10th, 2020, 11:54 am
First of all the Universities control the NCAA, so for those that think they have anything to do with no season played are wrong, The CEO's of the Big Ten conference decided it was not worth the risk to hold football this season I understand why they would feel this way.

Safety is the the biggest concern they face, and of course the lawsuit's that would follow any exposure by fans or players to this disease , until there are better treatments they will, and should be shut down.

A big problem I see is what happens if there is no season in 2020 do all scholarship seniors remain eligible if so what happens to the incoming class in 2021 would that not put us over the 85 limit ? If seniors remain on scholarship I can not see how you can keep them for the next season, and honor the commitments to the new kids, of course all kids may lose a year to this problem.
Can't the universities honor the scholarships of the seniors even though there is not a season? They would get their school paid for the year and they would move on with their lives. They are students, after all. Nowhere in their scholarship agreement does it say that a football season is guaranteed, I would guess. It sucks, but life isn't always fair. If they want to pursue a career in professional football, they can contact an agent to try and make that work. Otherwise, they have (presumably) 4 or 5 years of education paid for by someone else with which they can go out into the world and seek work like the rest of us. The next crop of high school kids or transfers will come in with the same set of rules. They will be offered scholarships, but no guarantee that they will play.
They will honor the scholarships for the now seniors, but if you are a senior then your playing college football would be over. I feel bad for those kids, It is hard to work your butt off, and then not get to play your senior season.



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Re: It's over - pack up and go home

Post by aggies22 » August 10th, 2020, 12:28 pm

Yossarian wrote:
August 10th, 2020, 12:20 pm
oleblu111 wrote:
August 10th, 2020, 11:54 am
First of all the Universities control the NCAA, so for those that think they have anything to do with no season played are wrong, The CEO's of the Big Ten conference decided it was not worth the risk to hold football this season I understand why they would feel this way.

Safety is the the biggest concern they face, and of course the lawsuit's that would follow any exposure by fans or players to this disease , until there are better treatments they will, and should be shut down.

A big problem I see is what happens if there is no season in 2020 do all scholarship seniors remain eligible if so what happens to the incoming class in 2021 would that not put us over the 85 limit ? If seniors remain on scholarship I can not see how you can keep them for the next season, and honor the commitments to the new kids, of course all kids may lose a year to this problem.
Can't the universities honor the scholarships of the seniors even though there is not a season? They would get their school paid for the year and they would move on with their lives. They are students, after all. Nowhere in their scholarship agreement does it say that a football season is guaranteed, I would guess. It sucks, but life isn't always fair. If they want to pursue a career in professional football, they can contact an agent to try and make that work. Otherwise, they have (presumably) 4 or 5 years of education paid for by someone else with which they can go out into the world and seek work like the rest of us. The next crop of high school kids or transfers will come in with the same set of rules. They will be offered scholarships, but no guarantee that they will play.
I think the issue is that the precedent has already been set with the senior from the spring sports being given an extra season of eligibility. I think the only way this works is if the seniors are given another year and teams are allowed to go over the 85 limit for the 2021 season. However, they MUST only be allowed to carry the number of new scholarships that they would have taken on for 2021. If a school only has 15 spots, you only get to add those 15 spots. If a school needs to fill all 25, they get to fill all 25, and so on and so forth. With little or no football this fall, there is PLENTY of time for schools to verify the number of extra scholarship spots they have to fill in 2021.



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Post by Aggie84025 » August 10th, 2020, 12:36 pm

aggies22 wrote:
August 10th, 2020, 12:28 pm
Yossarian wrote:
August 10th, 2020, 12:20 pm
oleblu111 wrote:
August 10th, 2020, 11:54 am
First of all the Universities control the NCAA, so for those that think they have anything to do with no season played are wrong, The CEO's of the Big Ten conference decided it was not worth the risk to hold football this season I understand why they would feel this way.

Safety is the the biggest concern they face, and of course the lawsuit's that would follow any exposure by fans or players to this disease , until there are better treatments they will, and should be shut down.

A big problem I see is what happens if there is no season in 2020 do all scholarship seniors remain eligible if so what happens to the incoming class in 2021 would that not put us over the 85 limit ? If seniors remain on scholarship I can not see how you can keep them for the next season, and honor the commitments to the new kids, of course all kids may lose a year to this problem.
Can't the universities honor the scholarships of the seniors even though there is not a season? They would get their school paid for the year and they would move on with their lives. They are students, after all. Nowhere in their scholarship agreement does it say that a football season is guaranteed, I would guess. It sucks, but life isn't always fair. If they want to pursue a career in professional football, they can contact an agent to try and make that work. Otherwise, they have (presumably) 4 or 5 years of education paid for by someone else with which they can go out into the world and seek work like the rest of us. The next crop of high school kids or transfers will come in with the same set of rules. They will be offered scholarships, but no guarantee that they will play.
I think the issue is that the precedent has already been set with the senior from the spring sports being given an extra season of eligibility. I think the only way this works is if the seniors are given another year and teams are allowed to go over the 85 limit for the 2021 season. However, they MUST only be allowed to carry the number of new scholarships that they would have taken on for 2021. If a school only has 15 spots, you only get to add those 15 spots. If a school needs to fill all 25, they get to fill all 25, and so on and so forth. With little or no football this fall, there is PLENTY of time for schools to verify the number of extra scholarship spots they have to fill in 2021.
not only this, but the implications of the cost of the scholarship with having an extra senior class. to have another ~25 people (just counting football) on full ride the costs will be enormous. All of that coming on the heels of having very little revenue will be disastrous for most schools. Oh, but hey money grows on trees and every department is flush with money.



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Re: It's over - pack up and go home

Post by Yossarian » August 10th, 2020, 12:37 pm

oleblu111 wrote:
August 10th, 2020, 12:27 pm
Yossarian wrote:
August 10th, 2020, 12:20 pm
oleblu111 wrote:
August 10th, 2020, 11:54 am
First of all the Universities control the NCAA, so for those that think they have anything to do with no season played are wrong, The CEO's of the Big Ten conference decided it was not worth the risk to hold football this season I understand why they would feel this way.

Safety is the the biggest concern they face, and of course the lawsuit's that would follow any exposure by fans or players to this disease , until there are better treatments they will, and should be shut down.

A big problem I see is what happens if there is no season in 2020 do all scholarship seniors remain eligible if so what happens to the incoming class in 2021 would that not put us over the 85 limit ? If seniors remain on scholarship I can not see how you can keep them for the next season, and honor the commitments to the new kids, of course all kids may lose a year to this problem.
Can't the universities honor the scholarships of the seniors even though there is not a season? They would get their school paid for the year and they would move on with their lives. They are students, after all. Nowhere in their scholarship agreement does it say that a football season is guaranteed, I would guess. It sucks, but life isn't always fair. If they want to pursue a career in professional football, they can contact an agent to try and make that work. Otherwise, they have (presumably) 4 or 5 years of education paid for by someone else with which they can go out into the world and seek work like the rest of us. The next crop of high school kids or transfers will come in with the same set of rules. They will be offered scholarships, but no guarantee that they will play.
They will honor the scholarships for the now seniors, but if you are a senior then your playing college football would be over. I feel bad for those kids, It is hard to work your butt off, and then not get to play your senior season.
I totally understand that. It's also difficult for the sole proprietor restaurateur that was forced to shut down his shop because he was not essential. Or the factory or retail workers that lost their jobs. Those folks all worked their butts off, too. These are exceptional times and nothing is guaranteed. There are other students that were forced to drop out of school because their parents or they, themselves, lost jobs and couldn't afford to go to school. Campus maintenance workers were furloughed and put on unemployment. I just think it is messed up that we want to bend over backwards to make sure the seniors have a senior year playing football because they worked hard. Lots of people work hard and have been disappointed. Maybe this can be a life lesson for them going forward? It sucks, for sure, but they'll get over it. They got an education paid for - not everybody does that. I just hope they took advantage of it.
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Re: It's over - pack up and go home

Post by oleblu111 » August 10th, 2020, 12:40 pm

aggies22 wrote:
August 10th, 2020, 12:28 pm
Yossarian wrote:
August 10th, 2020, 12:20 pm
oleblu111 wrote:
August 10th, 2020, 11:54 am
First of all the Universities control the NCAA, so for those that think they have anything to do with no season played are wrong, The CEO's of the Big Ten conference decided it was not worth the risk to hold football this season I understand why they would feel this way.

Safety is the the biggest concern they face, and of course the lawsuit's that would follow any exposure by fans or players to this disease , until there are better treatments they will, and should be shut down.

A big problem I see is what happens if there is no season in 2020 do all scholarship seniors remain eligible if so what happens to the incoming class in 2021 would that not put us over the 85 limit ? If seniors remain on scholarship I can not see how you can keep them for the next season, and honor the commitments to the new kids, of course all kids may lose a year to this problem.
Can't the universities honor the scholarships of the seniors even though there is not a season? They would get their school paid for the year and they would move on with their lives. They are students, after all. Nowhere in their scholarship agreement does it say that a football season is guaranteed, I would guess. It sucks, but life isn't always fair. If they want to pursue a career in professional football, they can contact an agent to try and make that work. Otherwise, they have (presumably) 4 or 5 years of education paid for by someone else with which they can go out into the world and seek work like the rest of us. The next crop of high school kids or transfers will come in with the same set of rules. They will be offered scholarships, but no guarantee that they will play.
I think the issue is that the precedent has already been set with the senior from the spring sports being given an extra season of eligibility. I think the only way this works is if the seniors are given another year and teams are allowed to go over the 85 limit for the 2021 season. However, they MUST only be allowed to carry the number of new scholarships that they would have taken on for 2021. If a school only has 15 spots, you only get to add those 15 spots. If a school needs to fill all 25, they get to fill all 25, and so on and so forth. With little or no football this fall, there is PLENTY of time for schools to verify the number of extra scholarship spots they have to fill in 2021.
Were in the hell will money come to have 110 scholarships in football let alone all the other sports effected ? There will be budget cuts to Universities, and what little fan support we have will be even less. I doubt that USU can or should put millions more into athletics given the academic needs due to the Covid -19.
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Re: It's over - pack up and go home

Post by Aggie84025 » August 10th, 2020, 1:01 pm

oleblu111 wrote:
August 10th, 2020, 12:40 pm
aggies22 wrote:
August 10th, 2020, 12:28 pm
Yossarian wrote:
August 10th, 2020, 12:20 pm
oleblu111 wrote:
August 10th, 2020, 11:54 am
First of all the Universities control the NCAA, so for those that think they have anything to do with no season played are wrong, The CEO's of the Big Ten conference decided it was not worth the risk to hold football this season I understand why they would feel this way.

Safety is the the biggest concern they face, and of course the lawsuit's that would follow any exposure by fans or players to this disease , until there are better treatments they will, and should be shut down.

A big problem I see is what happens if there is no season in 2020 do all scholarship seniors remain eligible if so what happens to the incoming class in 2021 would that not put us over the 85 limit ? If seniors remain on scholarship I can not see how you can keep them for the next season, and honor the commitments to the new kids, of course all kids may lose a year to this problem.
Can't the universities honor the scholarships of the seniors even though there is not a season? They would get their school paid for the year and they would move on with their lives. They are students, after all. Nowhere in their scholarship agreement does it say that a football season is guaranteed, I would guess. It sucks, but life isn't always fair. If they want to pursue a career in professional football, they can contact an agent to try and make that work. Otherwise, they have (presumably) 4 or 5 years of education paid for by someone else with which they can go out into the world and seek work like the rest of us. The next crop of high school kids or transfers will come in with the same set of rules. They will be offered scholarships, but no guarantee that they will play.
I think the issue is that the precedent has already been set with the senior from the spring sports being given an extra season of eligibility. I think the only way this works is if the seniors are given another year and teams are allowed to go over the 85 limit for the 2021 season. However, they MUST only be allowed to carry the number of new scholarships that they would have taken on for 2021. If a school only has 15 spots, you only get to add those 15 spots. If a school needs to fill all 25, they get to fill all 25, and so on and so forth. With little or no football this fall, there is PLENTY of time for schools to verify the number of extra scholarship spots they have to fill in 2021.
Were in the hell will money come to have 110 scholarships in football let alone all the other sports effected ? There will be budget cuts to Universities, and what little fan support we have will be even less. I doubt that USU can or should put millions more into athletics given the academic needs due to the Covid -19.
I agree they should not be handing out extra full ride scholarships for COVID-19. There is no way to jusfify doing that since there obviously is going to be little to no revenue for this year. Things can't go both ways. They can't cancel the season effectively eliminating a lot of revenue and then want to give out more full ride scholarships. There are costs to doing business. If seasons are cancelled scholarships should go as well.
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Re: It's over - pack up and go home

Post by AggieUprising50 » August 10th, 2020, 1:10 pm

oleblu111 wrote:
August 10th, 2020, 12:40 pm
aggies22 wrote:
August 10th, 2020, 12:28 pm
Yossarian wrote:
August 10th, 2020, 12:20 pm
oleblu111 wrote:
August 10th, 2020, 11:54 am
First of all the Universities control the NCAA, so for those that think they have anything to do with no season played are wrong, The CEO's of the Big Ten conference decided it was not worth the risk to hold football this season I understand why they would feel this way.

Safety is the the biggest concern they face, and of course the lawsuit's that would follow any exposure by fans or players to this disease , until there are better treatments they will, and should be shut down.

A big problem I see is what happens if there is no season in 2020 do all scholarship seniors remain eligible if so what happens to the incoming class in 2021 would that not put us over the 85 limit ? If seniors remain on scholarship I can not see how you can keep them for the next season, and honor the commitments to the new kids, of course all kids may lose a year to this problem.
Can't the universities honor the scholarships of the seniors even though there is not a season? They would get their school paid for the year and they would move on with their lives. They are students, after all. Nowhere in their scholarship agreement does it say that a football season is guaranteed, I would guess. It sucks, but life isn't always fair. If they want to pursue a career in professional football, they can contact an agent to try and make that work. Otherwise, they have (presumably) 4 or 5 years of education paid for by someone else with which they can go out into the world and seek work like the rest of us. The next crop of high school kids or transfers will come in with the same set of rules. They will be offered scholarships, but no guarantee that they will play.
I think the issue is that the precedent has already been set with the senior from the spring sports being given an extra season of eligibility. I think the only way this works is if the seniors are given another year and teams are allowed to go over the 85 limit for the 2021 season. However, they MUST only be allowed to carry the number of new scholarships that they would have taken on for 2021. If a school only has 15 spots, you only get to add those 15 spots. If a school needs to fill all 25, they get to fill all 25, and so on and so forth. With little or no football this fall, there is PLENTY of time for schools to verify the number of extra scholarship spots they have to fill in 2021.
Were in the hell will money come to have 110 scholarships in football let alone all the other sports effected ? There will be budget cuts to Universities, and what little fan support we have will be even less. I doubt that USU can or should put millions more into athletics given the academic needs due to the Covid -19.
This is why I can see the MWC (and other conferences) making a season happen this year. There is no other way for the schools to pay for that many scholarships. If would be a death sentence to the conference.

Make the players sign a waiver if they want to play. They're adults, they know the risk. Play in empty stadiums if needed. Or play in the spring.



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Re: It's over - pack up and go home

Post by thegreendalegelf » August 10th, 2020, 1:16 pm

AggieUprising50 wrote:
August 10th, 2020, 1:10 pm
oleblu111 wrote:
August 10th, 2020, 12:40 pm
aggies22 wrote:
August 10th, 2020, 12:28 pm
Yossarian wrote:
August 10th, 2020, 12:20 pm
oleblu111 wrote:
August 10th, 2020, 11:54 am
First of all the Universities control the NCAA, so for those that think they have anything to do with no season played are wrong, The CEO's of the Big Ten conference decided it was not worth the risk to hold football this season I understand why they would feel this way.

Safety is the the biggest concern they face, and of course the lawsuit's that would follow any exposure by fans or players to this disease , until there are better treatments they will, and should be shut down.

A big problem I see is what happens if there is no season in 2020 do all scholarship seniors remain eligible if so what happens to the incoming class in 2021 would that not put us over the 85 limit ? If seniors remain on scholarship I can not see how you can keep them for the next season, and honor the commitments to the new kids, of course all kids may lose a year to this problem.
Can't the universities honor the scholarships of the seniors even though there is not a season? They would get their school paid for the year and they would move on with their lives. They are students, after all. Nowhere in their scholarship agreement does it say that a football season is guaranteed, I would guess. It sucks, but life isn't always fair. If they want to pursue a career in professional football, they can contact an agent to try and make that work. Otherwise, they have (presumably) 4 or 5 years of education paid for by someone else with which they can go out into the world and seek work like the rest of us. The next crop of high school kids or transfers will come in with the same set of rules. They will be offered scholarships, but no guarantee that they will play.
I think the issue is that the precedent has already been set with the senior from the spring sports being given an extra season of eligibility. I think the only way this works is if the seniors are given another year and teams are allowed to go over the 85 limit for the 2021 season. However, they MUST only be allowed to carry the number of new scholarships that they would have taken on for 2021. If a school only has 15 spots, you only get to add those 15 spots. If a school needs to fill all 25, they get to fill all 25, and so on and so forth. With little or no football this fall, there is PLENTY of time for schools to verify the number of extra scholarship spots they have to fill in 2021.
Were in the hell will money come to have 110 scholarships in football let alone all the other sports effected ? There will be budget cuts to Universities, and what little fan support we have will be even less. I doubt that USU can or should put millions more into athletics given the academic needs due to the Covid -19.
This is why I can see the MWC (and other conferences) making a season happen this year. There is no other way for the schools to pay for that many scholarships. If would be a death sentence to the conference.

Make the players sign a waiver if they want to play. They're adults, they know the risk. Play in empty stadiums if needed. Or play in the spring.
The NCAA has already thrown out the waivers. The fact that they can't legally do the waivers is a massive part of why the season is in danger. Schools will have some liability and they don't want it.
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Re: It's over - pack up and go home

Post by coolag » August 10th, 2020, 3:29 pm

It's officially over for the MWC.



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Re: It's over - pack up and go home

Post by BLUERUFiO » August 10th, 2020, 5:15 pm

My favorite time of the year has been ruined. I'm grumpy.
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Re: It's over - pack up and go home

Post by clebaron » August 10th, 2020, 6:17 pm

On the bright side, we’ll be undefeated this year.


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