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Post by ViAggie » June 10th, 2020, 2:45 pm

Nation wide, no Utah schools mentioned: https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2020/06 ... -programs/


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Re: Student athletes already showing up on campus with covid

Post by ratofallaggies » June 10th, 2020, 3:09 pm

Dozens?!?!? (Clutches pearls)
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Post by 2004AG » June 10th, 2020, 3:11 pm

ratofallaggies wrote:Dozens?!?!? (Clutches pearls)
What will they ever do with their lost sense of smell for a couple days?!?!?!?


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Re: Student athletes already showing up on campus with covid

Post by ViAggie » June 10th, 2020, 4:36 pm

2004AG wrote:
June 10th, 2020, 3:11 pm
ratofallaggies wrote:Dozens?!?!? (Clutches pearls)
What will they ever do with their lost sense of smell for a couple days?!?!?!?


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Glad they are testing for it.


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Post by slcagg » June 10th, 2020, 4:42 pm

ViAggie wrote:
June 10th, 2020, 4:36 pm
2004AG wrote:
June 10th, 2020, 3:11 pm
ratofallaggies wrote:Dozens?!?!? (Clutches pearls)
What will they ever do with their lost sense of smell for a couple days?!?!?!?


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Glad they are testing for it.
Me too Vi. Safety is important. Thanks for sharing.



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Re: Student athletes already showing up on campus with covid

Post by hipsterdoofus21 » June 10th, 2020, 5:42 pm

What’s with the asymptomatic positives? Are they just testing everyone at this point whether they have symptoms or not?



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Post by ViAggie » June 10th, 2020, 8:08 pm

Sounds like testing for all from my understanding, not just symptomatic athletes


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Post by Intermeddler » June 10th, 2020, 10:48 pm

Seems like any time 50-100 people are tested there are 3-5 asymptomatic positives if not more. I wouldn’t be surprised if every team uncovers a couple that have no or minimal symptoms



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Re: Student athletes already showing up on campus with covid

Post by lcrasmus » June 11th, 2020, 1:41 am

2004AG wrote:
ratofallaggies wrote:Dozens?!?!? (Clutches pearls)
What will they ever do with their lost sense of smell for a couple days?!?!?!?


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I'm aware of board members who lost two weeks to being in bed with Covid.

I've got family members who haven't tasted food in three months because of it.

And they both consider themselves lucky given what's happened to others.

The fact that you are so set on your own entertainment that the fact that these kids (let alone the support staff and others) could face serious and real immediate health concerns from it is worth mocking to you sucks. Bad.


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Re: Student athletes already showing up on campus with covid

Post by brownjeans » June 11th, 2020, 7:44 am

I guess righ-risk people better take precautions then. Up to and including staying home - same as everywhere else.



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Re: Student athletes already showing up on campus with covid

Post by Dwigt » June 11th, 2020, 7:52 am

lcrasmus wrote:
June 11th, 2020, 1:41 am
2004AG wrote:
ratofallaggies wrote:Dozens?!?!? (Clutches pearls)
What will they ever do with their lost sense of smell for a couple days?!?!?!?


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I'm aware of board members who lost two weeks to being in bed with Covid.

I've got family members who haven't tasted food in three months because of it.

And they both consider themselves lucky given what's happened to others.

The fact that you are so set on your own entertainment that the fact that these kids (let alone the support staff and others) could face serious and real immediate health concerns from it is worth mocking to you sucks. Bad.


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I have a friend that had no significant medical issues that is still using inhalers months after getting sick.

I have a friend who’s husband was on a ventilator in the ICU for 15 days. He may never fully recover.

I know people who have died.
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Post by hipsterdoofus21 » June 11th, 2020, 7:55 am

I know an economy that may never recover because of Covid.
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Re: Student athletes already showing up on campus with covid

Post by Sl7vk » June 11th, 2020, 8:34 am

Everyone here is right.

It's dangerous... especially to people that are over 60. The mortality rates are very disproportionate based on age. We need to protect those in society that are vulnerable. I also think that as a society, we should focus a bit more on health. We have way to many people with commodities that are under 60. People do not respect their health and as such put themselves and ultimately society at risk.

Poverty is also a killer. People that lose their jobs, their ability to earn a living, that can be just as fatal as Covid. Domestic abuse is up, and almost everyone is earning less money right now. That's unsustainable as well. The poor have been disproportionately affected by the economics of Covid-19. That's messed up.

This conflict is why people are so damn angry right now.
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Re: Student athletes already showing up on campus with covid

Post by ratofallaggies » June 11th, 2020, 9:10 am

I stand by my lighthearted statement of 12 asymptomatic college athletes testing positive for the Rona. I also wouldn't make that same statement about someone dying. Comparing these two scenarios would definitely be a false equivalency and searching for something to be offended about. Take it easy folks
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Re: Student athletes already showing up on campus with covid

Post by 2004AG » June 11th, 2020, 10:24 am

lcrasmus wrote:
2004AG wrote:
ratofallaggies wrote:Dozens?!?!? (Clutches pearls)
What will they ever do with their lost sense of smell for a couple days?!?!?!?


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I'm aware of board members who lost two weeks to being in bed with Covid.

I've got family members who haven't tasted food in three months because of it.

And they both consider themselves lucky given what's happened to others.

The fact that you are so set on your own entertainment that the fact that these kids (let alone the support staff and others) could face serious and real immediate health concerns from it is worth mocking to you sucks. Bad.


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Are those family members 18-22 years old ?


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Re: Student athletes already showing up on campus with covid

Post by 2004AG » June 11th, 2020, 10:31 am

lcrasmus wrote:
2004AG wrote:
ratofallaggies wrote:Dozens?!?!? (Clutches pearls)
What will they ever do with their lost sense of smell for a couple days?!?!?!?


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I'm aware of board members who lost two weeks to being in bed with Covid.

I've got family members who haven't tasted food in three months because of it.

And they both consider themselves lucky given what's happened to others.

The fact that you are so set on your own entertainment that the fact that these kids (let alone the support staff and others) could face serious and real immediate health concerns from it is worth mocking to you sucks. Bad.


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https://www.foxnews.com/world/un-corona ... starvation

The fact you don’t care about these people starving sucks. Bad.


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Re: Student athletes already showing up on campus with covid

Post by bpd » June 11th, 2020, 11:02 am

https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/21-ye ... n-colorado

This is what will shut down college athletics. If a player gets the virus on campus and dies and is healthy. Chances are slim, but not 0.



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Post by aggies22 » June 11th, 2020, 11:31 am

bpd wrote:
June 11th, 2020, 11:02 am
https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/21-ye ... n-colorado

This is what will shut down college athletics. If a player gets the virus on campus and dies and is healthy. Chances are slim, but not 0.
Every offseason with football especially we, unfortunately, hear about a college or high school football player that collapses and dies during a workout. I can't imagine a coronavirus death is going to hold anything up either.
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Re: Student athletes already showing up on campus with covid

Post by lcrasmus » June 11th, 2020, 12:36 pm

2004AG wrote:
June 11th, 2020, 10:31 am
lcrasmus wrote:
2004AG wrote:
ratofallaggies wrote:Dozens?!?!? (Clutches pearls)
What will they ever do with their lost sense of smell for a couple days?!?!?!?


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I'm aware of board members who lost two weeks to being in bed with Covid.

I've got family members who haven't tasted food in three months because of it.

And they both consider themselves lucky given what's happened to others.

The fact that you are so set on your own entertainment that the fact that these kids (let alone the support staff and others) could face serious and real immediate health concerns from it is worth mocking to you sucks. Bad.


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https://www.foxnews.com/world/un-corona ... starvation

The fact you don’t care about these people starving sucks. Bad.


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Yup. "This likely could lead to an issue" is the same thing as "people are dying right now."

And the solution is definitely to get college football back up and running.

Edit to include your second post, brother is 24. Same age as current members of our team. But, I guess watching football is really important.
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Re: Student athletes already showing up on campus with covid

Post by 2004AG » June 11th, 2020, 12:53 pm

lcrasmus wrote:
2004AG wrote:
June 11th, 2020, 10:31 am
lcrasmus wrote:
2004AG wrote:
ratofallaggies wrote:Dozens?!?!? (Clutches pearls)
What will they ever do with their lost sense of smell for a couple days?!?!?!?


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I'm aware of board members who lost two weeks to being in bed with Covid.

I've got family members who haven't tasted food in three months because of it.

And they both consider themselves lucky given what's happened to others.

The fact that you are so set on your own entertainment that the fact that these kids (let alone the support staff and others) could face serious and real immediate health concerns from it is worth mocking to you sucks. Bad.


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https://www.foxnews.com/world/un-corona ... starvation

The fact you don’t care about these people starving sucks. Bad.


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Yup. "This likely could lead to an issue" is the same thing as "people are dying right now."

And the solution is definitely to get college football back up and running.

Edit to include your second post, brother is 24. Same age as current members of our team. But, I guess watching football is really important.
It has nothing to do with “watching football” or getting a “hair cut” and you know that. It has to do with people losing their homes, jobs going hungry, suicides, people starving etc. but for some reason those lives don’t matter. And that sucks. Bad.

Football is just a microcosm of the bigger picture.


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Re: Student athletes already showing up on campus with covid

Post by lcrasmus » June 11th, 2020, 12:55 pm

2004AG wrote:
June 11th, 2020, 12:53 pm
lcrasmus wrote:
2004AG wrote:
June 11th, 2020, 10:31 am
lcrasmus wrote:
2004AG wrote:
ratofallaggies wrote:Dozens?!?!? (Clutches pearls)
What will they ever do with their lost sense of smell for a couple days?!?!?!?


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I'm aware of board members who lost two weeks to being in bed with Covid.

I've got family members who haven't tasted food in three months because of it.

And they both consider themselves lucky given what's happened to others.

The fact that you are so set on your own entertainment that the fact that these kids (let alone the support staff and others) could face serious and real immediate health concerns from it is worth mocking to you sucks. Bad.


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https://www.foxnews.com/world/un-corona ... starvation

The fact you don’t care about these people starving sucks. Bad.


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Yup. "This likely could lead to an issue" is the same thing as "people are dying right now."

And the solution is definitely to get college football back up and running.

Edit to include your second post, brother is 24. Same age as current members of our team. But, I guess watching football is really important.
It has nothing to do with “watching football” or getting a “hair cut” and you know that. It has to do with people losing their homes, jobs going hungry, suicides, people starving etc. but for some reason those lives don’t matter. And that sucks. Bad.

Football is just a microcosm of the bigger picture.


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Agreed. Then I think we should be in agreement that athletes having the illness when reporting to camp is a bad sign and should be a concern?



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Post by aggies22 » June 11th, 2020, 1:20 pm

lcrasmus wrote:
June 11th, 2020, 12:55 pm
2004AG wrote:
June 11th, 2020, 12:53 pm
lcrasmus wrote:
2004AG wrote:
June 11th, 2020, 10:31 am
lcrasmus wrote:
2004AG wrote:
ratofallaggies wrote:Dozens?!?!? (Clutches pearls)
What will they ever do with their lost sense of smell for a couple days?!?!?!?


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I'm aware of board members who lost two weeks to being in bed with Covid.

I've got family members who haven't tasted food in three months because of it.

And they both consider themselves lucky given what's happened to others.

The fact that you are so set on your own entertainment that the fact that these kids (let alone the support staff and others) could face serious and real immediate health concerns from it is worth mocking to you sucks. Bad.


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https://www.foxnews.com/world/un-corona ... starvation

The fact you don’t care about these people starving sucks. Bad.


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Yup. "This likely could lead to an issue" is the same thing as "people are dying right now."

And the solution is definitely to get college football back up and running.

Edit to include your second post, brother is 24. Same age as current members of our team. But, I guess watching football is really important.
It has nothing to do with “watching football” or getting a “hair cut” and you know that. It has to do with people losing their homes, jobs going hungry, suicides, people starving etc. but for some reason those lives don’t matter. And that sucks. Bad.

Football is just a microcosm of the bigger picture.


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Agreed. Then I think we should be in agreement that athletes having the illness when reporting to camp is a bad sign and should be a concern?
Why is it bad? It's no damn different than any other scenario that is playing out across the country. Being a student-athlete is their "job". If you show up to your job and you are ill or you work where testing is going on and test positive, be responsible and take your a$$ home, quarantine, and get better.



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Post by lcrasmus » June 11th, 2020, 1:27 pm

aggies22 wrote:
June 11th, 2020, 1:20 pm
lcrasmus wrote:
June 11th, 2020, 12:55 pm
2004AG wrote:
June 11th, 2020, 12:53 pm
lcrasmus wrote:
2004AG wrote:
June 11th, 2020, 10:31 am
lcrasmus wrote:
2004AG wrote:
ratofallaggies wrote:Dozens?!?!? (Clutches pearls)
What will they ever do with their lost sense of smell for a couple days?!?!?!?


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I'm aware of board members who lost two weeks to being in bed with Covid.

I've got family members who haven't tasted food in three months because of it.

And they both consider themselves lucky given what's happened to others.

The fact that you are so set on your own entertainment that the fact that these kids (let alone the support staff and others) could face serious and real immediate health concerns from it is worth mocking to you sucks. Bad.


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https://www.foxnews.com/world/un-corona ... starvation

The fact you don’t care about these people starving sucks. Bad.


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Yup. "This likely could lead to an issue" is the same thing as "people are dying right now."

And the solution is definitely to get college football back up and running.

Edit to include your second post, brother is 24. Same age as current members of our team. But, I guess watching football is really important.
It has nothing to do with “watching football” or getting a “hair cut” and you know that. It has to do with people losing their homes, jobs going hungry, suicides, people starving etc. but for some reason those lives don’t matter. And that sucks. Bad.

Football is just a microcosm of the bigger picture.


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Agreed. Then I think we should be in agreement that athletes having the illness when reporting to camp is a bad sign and should be a concern?
Why is it bad? It's no damn different than any other scenario that is playing out across the country. Being a student-athlete is their "job". If you show up to your job and you are ill or you work where testing is going on and test positive, be responsible and take your a$$ home, quarantine, and get better.
It's bad because there's a massive difference between going to work at an office and practicing football. Every reputable study out that I've been able to find says proximity and heavy breathing are huge players in spread. Football is almost exclusively both of those things.

That said, I have yet to make the stance that I don't think practices should be happening. I think being smart, observing protocols, and making sure you have things under control is vital and important. Test and react when something turns up.

My issue is those who are flippant and downplay the issue because they don't believe it's an actual threat. We can both have what we want. Things can reopen and restart, and we can take it seriously to try to prevent things. Joking about how the illness will simply result in a loss of taste for a bit and it's worth risking our athletes health because statistically they're not likely to experience more than that rubs me the wrong way. They're putting their bodies on the line for you enough. You shouldn't be joking about "what's another potential preventable career ending injury."

Just my thoughts on it.



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Re: Student athletes already showing up on campus with covid

Post by hipsterdoofus21 » June 11th, 2020, 1:45 pm

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I stand by my lighthearted statement of 12 asymptomatic college athletes testing positive for the Rona. I also wouldn't make that same statement about someone dying. Comparing these two scenarios would definitely be a false equivalency and searching for something to be offended about. Take it easy folks
So cancel the protest and looting plans this afternoon? What am I supposed to do with this pitchfork?
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Post by ratofallaggies » June 11th, 2020, 2:27 pm

hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
June 11th, 2020, 1:45 pm
ratofallaggies wrote:
June 11th, 2020, 9:10 am
I stand by my lighthearted statement of 12 asymptomatic college athletes testing positive for the Rona. I also wouldn't make that same statement about someone dying. Comparing these two scenarios would definitely be a false equivalency and searching for something to be offended about. Take it easy folks
So cancel the protest and looting plans this afternoon? What am I supposed to do with this pitchfork?
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Re: Student athletes already showing up on campus with covid

Post by NavyBlueAggie » June 11th, 2020, 2:47 pm

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Sounds like testing for all from my understanding, not just symptomatic athletes
Testing would be a solid step. Additionally steps taken, I understand, were USU athletes were quarantined for 14 days once they arrived back on campus. No guarantees for the future, and certainly no understanding as to the short term long run health of the football team. Thank you Vi...



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Re: Student athletes already showing up on campus with covid

Post by aggies22 » June 11th, 2020, 2:52 pm

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ViAggie wrote:
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Sounds like testing for all from my understanding, not just symptomatic athletes
Testing would be a solid step. Additionally steps taken, I understand, were USU athletes were quarantined for 14 days once they arrived back on campus. No guarantees for the future, and certainly no understanding as to the short term long run health of the football team. Thank you Vi...
At Utah State, it has been testing for all. I believe as the athletes trickled in, they also had to undergo a quarantine period. I think this is all happening now so that players that are ill can be taken care of immediately and properly and then the schools can move into the six-week training camp period.



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Post by Yossarian » June 11th, 2020, 6:14 pm

Shut it down. All college sports - shut them down. Online classes only is the new wave. No need for campuses. No need for funding athletic departments. If kids want to pursue a future in professional sports, there will be profiteers that will set up semi-pro or minor leagues for these. Individual sports (like most of your Olympic sports) will rely on clubs or personal professional trainers to prepare for qualifying events. This is the wave of the future. Universities don't want to take on the liability of someone getting sick and/or spreading a contagion at one of their sponsored events. And the citizens of the state shouldn't use state tax resources to fight claims against state institutions in lawsuits where someone got sick at one of their events where the event staff didn't wipe down handrails properly or screen event-goers for fevers or facemasks. This is the future - distance learning and over-the-top CYA safety measures.
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Re: Student athletes already showing up on campus with covid

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Post by UStateTim » June 12th, 2020, 11:00 am

The sad thing is we didn't have to get to a point where it's a Sophie's choice. We could have easily monitored this back in January and not have to shut down the economy. https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandso ... cpretIogPQ

This talks about how South Korea managed it and was able to keep the economy going. They were able to start baseball at the beginning of May. Mitt Romney mentioned how by March 6, South Korea is 1/6 the size of the US but had done 140,000 tests compared to our 2,000.

I really don't want to get into a political debate because I do think both sides of the argument are valid. We have to take Covid-19 seriously while also monitoring the lives of people affected by the economy which leads to depression/suicide. It's a tricky scenario.
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Post by OKAggie » June 13th, 2020, 2:18 pm

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June 12th, 2020, 11:00 am
The sad thing is we didn't have to get to a point where it's a Sophie's choice. We could have easily monitored this back in January and not have to shut down the economy. https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandso ... cpretIogPQ

This talks about how South Korea managed it and was able to keep the economy going. They were able to start baseball at the beginning of May. Mitt Romney mentioned how by March 6, South Korea is 1/6 the size of the US but had done 140,000 tests compared to our 2,000.

I really don't want to get into a political debate because I do think both sides of the argument are valid. We have to take Covid-19 seriously while also monitoring the lives of people affected by the economy which leads to depression/suicide. It's a tricky scenario.
We could have started baseball by the end of May if both the owners and players union weren't completely incompetent at their jobs. MLB had the opportunity to get ahead of the other sports, be the only game in town, and maybe regain some fans they've lost over the years. Instead, they'll be coming back, at best, about the same time the NBA restart and playoffs suck up all the oxygen in August, then the NFL and college football will take over in September.
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Re: Student athletes already showing up on campus with covid

Post by FloridaAggie13 » June 13th, 2020, 5:19 pm

UStateTim wrote:
June 12th, 2020, 11:00 am
The sad thing is we didn't have to get to a point where it's a Sophie's choice. We could have easily monitored this back in January and not have to shut down the economy. https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandso ... cpretIogPQ

This talks about how South Korea managed it and was able to keep the economy going. They were able to start baseball at the beginning of May. Mitt Romney mentioned how by March 6, South Korea is 1/6 the size of the US but had done 140,000 tests compared to our 2,000.

I really don't want to get into a political debate because I do think both sides of the argument are valid. We have to take Covid-19 seriously while also monitoring the lives of people affected by the economy which leads to depression/suicide. It's a tricky scenario.
How many people were going to volunteer to be tested for a virus they had never heard of? Plus, as we've seen first hand, knowing millions of people have tested positive hasn't deterred the overwhelming call to open things up. We are a different culture than South Korea.



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Re: Student athletes already showing up on campus with covid

Post by hipsterdoofus21 » June 13th, 2020, 10:55 pm

The more I think about it the more I’m convinced School presidents are going to pull a plug on sports for the year. Just like the politicians who blanketly closed down their entire states to save face, avoid blame, and not risk career suicide. You don’t get to be a school president without learning a thing or two about self preservation along the way.



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Re: Student athletes already showing up on campus with covid

Post by USU78 » June 15th, 2020, 12:48 pm

ViAggie wrote:
June 10th, 2020, 2:45 pm
Nation wide, no Utah schools mentioned: https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2020/06 ... -programs/
That's why players had to come in two weeks early, to be tested and quarantined in situ.
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