When will we know if there will be a season?

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When will we know if there will be a season?

Post by Aggie formerly in Hawaii » April 27th, 2020, 3:02 pm

Does anyone with inside info know how colleges and the NCAA are monitoring this as far as a timeline for college football?



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Re: When will we know if there will be a season?

Post by aggies22 » April 27th, 2020, 3:09 pm

What I've heard kicked around is a no later that a mid-July return which would include an extended training camp since most schools didn't get much of a spring ball.
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Re: When will we know if there will be a season?

Post by Turtle » April 27th, 2020, 3:11 pm

Semi-related: heard from one of my professors that the second-block summer semester classes will be available for students to attend on campus OR participate in online depending on the student's preference. The first-block classes will be online-only. So at the very least there should be an option of on-campus classes fall semester.. Not sure what that implies for football, but figured it could be useful info.
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Re: When will we know if there will be a season?

Post by thegreendalegelf » April 27th, 2020, 4:21 pm

Turtle wrote:
April 27th, 2020, 3:11 pm
Semi-related: heard from one of my professors that the second-block summer semester classes will be available for students to attend on campus OR participate in online depending on the student's preference. The first-block classes will be online-only. So at the very least there should be an option of on-campus classes fall semester.. Not sure what that implies for football, but figured it could be useful info.
For what it's worth this is what other schools have done. Texas A&M originally announced that the 2nd half of the summer would be both online and in person and then they announced the move to just online. So, while I'm hopeful, I'm pessimistic about classes over the summer.



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Re: When will we know if there will be a season?

Post by UStateTim » April 27th, 2020, 4:48 pm

I'm optimistic that a season will be played, but I'm pessimistic that fans will be in attendance



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Post by GameFAQSAggie » April 27th, 2020, 5:47 pm

Does anyone know if they are renting out contracts for all the on-campus housing, filling the dorms at full capacity. Or only taking contracts for partial capacity. Are they even renting out shared bedrooms?



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Re: When will we know if there will be a season?

Post by taniataylor » April 27th, 2020, 6:35 pm

The kid did have a meeting and they are possibly changing the return date from June 1st to mid June, but we are still waiting to see how May progresses. The season is still a go so far
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Re: When will we know if there will be a season?

Post by aggies22 » April 27th, 2020, 6:44 pm

taniataylor wrote:
April 27th, 2020, 6:35 pm
The kid did have a meeting and they are possibly changing the return date from June 1st to mid June, but we are still waiting to see how May progresses. The season is still a go so far
Music to my ears! Move along, nothing to see here.



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Re: When will we know if there will be a season?

Post by GUS » April 27th, 2020, 7:10 pm

News has been coming out that covid19 is less deadly and more wide spread than originally thought. I have a feeling that the non-at-risk people will be out and about like normal within the next 3-4 weeks. Sporting events will take place with safe guards in place. Those of us who have things that make us at risk to the disease will see restrictions continue to some extent. Football and basketball will take place.
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Re: When will we know if there will be a season?

Post by brownjeans » April 27th, 2020, 11:04 pm

UStateTim wrote:
April 27th, 2020, 4:48 pm
I'm optimistic that a season will be played, but I'm pessimistic that fans will be in attendance
Did you mean fans would be prohibited from attending or that fans wouldn't attend voluntarily? Thompson has said if fans aren't allowed, the MWC won't play games.



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Re: When will we know if there will be a season?

Post by BobWilson » April 27th, 2020, 11:25 pm

The WSU AD is saying there may be games without fans. Is that why the Cougs are opening at USU? (Joke).



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Re: When will we know if there will be a season?

Post by Intermeddler » April 28th, 2020, 10:49 am

I don’t see a scenario where games aren’t played at some point in the academic year. Too much money at stake and losing a year of football revenue would decimate athletic programs. If it’s 8 games starting in February without fans games are getting played in my opinion.



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Re: When will we know if there will be a season?

Post by JSHarvey » April 28th, 2020, 11:09 am

I think a lot of decision makers are waiting to see if there will be a significant second wave of deaths (not just an increased number of infections) after the economy starts "reopening".


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Re: When will we know if there will be a season?

Post by UStateTim » April 28th, 2020, 11:16 am

brownjeans wrote:
April 27th, 2020, 11:04 pm
UStateTim wrote:
April 27th, 2020, 4:48 pm
I'm optimistic that a season will be played, but I'm pessimistic that fans will be in attendance
Did you mean fans would be prohibited from attending or that fans wouldn't attend voluntarily? Thompson has said if fans aren't allowed, the MWC won't play games.
Didn't know Thompson said that. I think it's tricky to assess because the Mountain West is so different. Each state in the conference has different things to worry about. What does San Diego St, Fresno St., and San Jose St. do if California has stricter stay at home orders than any other state in this conference? Disneyland is already closed until 2021. I work in minor league baseball and I'm getting more pessimistic that minor league baseball won't have a season while MLB will have one without fans. That's why I had my original optimistic and pessimistic comment.



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Re: When will we know if there will be a season?

Post by ViAggie » April 28th, 2020, 12:04 pm

Count me in as one of the pessimistic ones - I keep hearing that professional sports will be postponed until we have a vaccine. Then I keep hearing that we may never have a vaccine. So.... :noidea:


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Re: When will we know if there will be a season?

Post by hipsterdoofus21 » April 28th, 2020, 12:09 pm

brownjeans wrote:
April 27th, 2020, 11:04 pm
UStateTim wrote:
April 27th, 2020, 4:48 pm
I'm optimistic that a season will be played, but I'm pessimistic that fans will be in attendance
Did you mean fans would be prohibited from attending or that fans wouldn't attend voluntarily? Thompson has said if fans aren't allowed, the MWC won't play games.
And if Thompson says it, you can take it to the bank. "Honest Craig" as he's known around the water cooler will never waiver.
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Re: When will we know if there will be a season?

Post by ususports » April 28th, 2020, 12:11 pm

UStateTim wrote:
April 28th, 2020, 11:16 am
Disneyland is already closed until 2021.
This is just as (if not more) speculative than trying to figure out whether or not there will be a college football season.



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Re: When will we know if there will be a season?

Post by ratofallaggies » April 29th, 2020, 12:22 pm

Ok, I'll bite. The initial narrative of staying home was to not overload the system.... NOT death. This was never about death. Now the media is all over fear porn and that's all they talk about, not to mention that states/hospitals receive added funding if deaths are coded under the Rona. The curve is being flattened and we have the ability to deal with what we need to (the naval ship that was sent to NY has already packed up and was sent back because they don't need the added resources anymore). Now after antibody tests performed accross the country, and the controled testing that MIT performed on sewage (yeah I know, it's gross), we know that initial models and assumptions were downplaying how many people have truly been effected by atleast 50%.... experts and politicians (including Cuomo) have downgraded the initial rates of 5-10% to now .5-1% that includes all deaths that are reported from the Rona.... There will be a football season, and there will be a basketball season. END RANT
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Re: When will we know if there will be a season?

Post by aggies22 » April 29th, 2020, 12:25 pm

ratofallaggies wrote:
April 29th, 2020, 12:22 pm
Ok, I'll bite. The initial narrative of staying home was to not overload the system.... NOT death. This was never about death. Now the media is all over fear porn and that's all they talk about, not to mention that states/hospitals receive added funding if deaths are coded under the Rona. The curve is being flattened and we have the ability to deal with what we need to (the naval ship that was sent to NY has already packed up and was sent back because they don't need the added resources anymore). Now after antibody tests performed accross the country, and the controled testing that MIT performed on sewage (yeah I know, it's gross), we know that initial models and assumptions were downplaying how many people have truly been effected by atleast 50%.... experts and politicians (including Cuomo) have downgraded the initial rates of 5-10% to now .5-1% that includes all deaths that are reported from the Rona.... There will be a football season, and there will be a basketball season. END RANT
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Re: When will we know if there will be a season?

Post by ratofallaggies » April 29th, 2020, 12:29 pm

aggies22 wrote:
April 29th, 2020, 12:25 pm
ratofallaggies wrote:
April 29th, 2020, 12:22 pm
Ok, I'll bite. The initial narrative of staying home was to not overload the system.... NOT death. This was never about death. Now the media is all over fear porn and that's all they talk about, not to mention that states/hospitals receive added funding if deaths are coded under the Rona. The curve is being flattened and we have the ability to deal with what we need to (the naval ship that was sent to NY has already packed up and was sent back because they don't need the added resources anymore). Now after antibody tests performed accross the country, and the controled testing that MIT performed on sewage (yeah I know, it's gross), we know that initial models and assumptions were downplaying how many people have truly been effected by atleast 50%.... experts and politicians (including Cuomo) have downgraded the initial rates of 5-10% to now .5-1% that includes all deaths that are reported from the Rona.... There will be a football season, and there will be a basketball season. END RANT
Speak on it my Aggie brother, speak on it!
Can you tell I'm ready for normalcy? Speaking of which, there's no such thing as a "new normal"... there, now I'm done :lol:
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Re: When will we know if there will be a season?

Post by slcagg » April 29th, 2020, 12:37 pm

ratofallaggies wrote:
April 29th, 2020, 12:29 pm
aggies22 wrote:
April 29th, 2020, 12:25 pm
ratofallaggies wrote:
April 29th, 2020, 12:22 pm
Ok, I'll bite. The initial narrative of staying home was to not overload the system.... NOT death. This was never about death. Now the media is all over fear porn and that's all they talk about, not to mention that states/hospitals receive added funding if deaths are coded under the Rona. The curve is being flattened and we have the ability to deal with what we need to (the naval ship that was sent to NY has already packed up and was sent back because they don't need the added resources anymore). Now after antibody tests performed accross the country, and the controled testing that MIT performed on sewage (yeah I know, it's gross), we know that initial models and assumptions were downplaying how many people have truly been effected by atleast 50%.... experts and politicians (including Cuomo) have downgraded the initial rates of 5-10% to now .5-1% that includes all deaths that are reported from the Rona.... There will be a football season, and there will be a basketball season. END RANT
Speak on it my Aggie brother, speak on it!
Can you tell I'm ready for normalcy? Speaking of which, there's no such thing as a "new normal"... there, now I'm done :lol:
Amen brother.
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Re: When will we know if there will be a season?

Post by brownjeans » April 29th, 2020, 1:07 pm

ratofallaggies wrote:
April 29th, 2020, 12:22 pm
States/hospitals receive added funding if deaths are coded under the Rona.
WOW. I did not know this. I'm sure no one would cook the books on Rona numbers. I mean, no one is ever dishonest.
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Re: When will we know if there will be a season?

Post by aggies22 » April 29th, 2020, 1:08 pm

ratofallaggies wrote:
April 29th, 2020, 12:29 pm
aggies22 wrote:
April 29th, 2020, 12:25 pm
ratofallaggies wrote:
April 29th, 2020, 12:22 pm
Ok, I'll bite. The initial narrative of staying home was to not overload the system.... NOT death. This was never about death. Now the media is all over fear porn and that's all they talk about, not to mention that states/hospitals receive added funding if deaths are coded under the Rona. The curve is being flattened and we have the ability to deal with what we need to (the naval ship that was sent to NY has already packed up and was sent back because they don't need the added resources anymore). Now after antibody tests performed accross the country, and the controled testing that MIT performed on sewage (yeah I know, it's gross), we know that initial models and assumptions were downplaying how many people have truly been effected by atleast 50%.... experts and politicians (including Cuomo) have downgraded the initial rates of 5-10% to now .5-1% that includes all deaths that are reported from the Rona.... There will be a football season, and there will be a basketball season. END RANT
Speak on it my Aggie brother, speak on it!
Can you tell I'm ready for normalcy? Speaking of which, there's no such thing as a "new normal"... there, now I'm done :lol:
Haha! I love it!
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Re: When will we know if there will be a season?

Post by Sl7vk » April 29th, 2020, 1:19 pm

brownjeans wrote:
April 29th, 2020, 1:07 pm
ratofallaggies wrote:
April 29th, 2020, 12:22 pm
States/hospitals receive added funding if deaths are coded under the Rona.
WOW. I did not know this. I'm sure no one would cook the books on Rona numbers. I mean, no one is ever dishonest.
I sell to Hospitals.
I can tell you that your average hospital is losing a million dollars a day right now. The Rona patients aren't helping, but cancelled electives and crashing census are killing them.
Healthcare spending was down 40% in Q1.
It's a veritable disaster for Hospitals right now.



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Re: When will we know if there will be a season?

Post by ratofallaggies » April 29th, 2020, 1:52 pm

Sl7vk wrote:
April 29th, 2020, 1:19 pm
brownjeans wrote:
April 29th, 2020, 1:07 pm
ratofallaggies wrote:
April 29th, 2020, 12:22 pm
States/hospitals receive added funding if deaths are coded under the Rona.
WOW. I did not know this. I'm sure no one would cook the books on Rona numbers. I mean, no one is ever dishonest.
I sell to Hospitals.
I can tell you that your average hospital is losing a million dollars a day right now. The Rona patients aren't helping, but cancelled electives and crashing census are killing them.
Healthcare spending was down 40% in Q1.
It's a veritable disaster for Hospitals right now.
Both can be true. Pennsylvania was just forced to remove around 200 deaths "caused" by Rona.
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Post by bwcrc » April 29th, 2020, 2:17 pm

My brother is a cardio-thoracic surgeon and last week said he is only doing about one procedure per week whereas before he was doing about one per day. About 10 days ago UPMC, one of the better hospital systems in the country, announced that since the surge in COVID-19 cases never happened they were going to resume elective procedures. I think a significant part of that decision was based on lack of revenue from cancelling all elective procedures waiting for the surge to happen.



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Post by Sl7vk » April 29th, 2020, 2:38 pm

That's exactly why they are bringing back electives.
Hospitals run at 1-3% margins at the best of times. That is usually with a 70+% patient census.
They are running at 20% or less right now with all their profitable stuff vaporized.



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Re: When will we know if there will be a season?

Post by Intermeddler » April 29th, 2020, 2:52 pm

I saw something this morning that attributed half of the Q1 decline in GDP to reductions in healthcare spending.

I’ve heard something like hospitals get reimbursed $39,000 or something like that for a covid patient which is compared to like $12,000 for a non covid patient. Anyone have a link to that? I’ve read it numerous places but always second hand.

EDIT: Found the link below but still interested in hearing from anyone involved in the hospital or medical industry about this sort of thing.

https://revcycleintelligence.com/news/h ... -total-42b
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Post by Yossarian » April 29th, 2020, 2:54 pm

Sl7vk wrote:
April 29th, 2020, 2:38 pm
That's exactly why they are bringing back electives.
Hospitals run at 1-3% margins at the best of times. That is usually with a 70+% patient census.
They are running at 20% or less right now with all their profitable stuff vaporized.
Is that "profitable stuff" things like $75 for an aspirin?



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Re: When will we know if there will be a season?

Post by bpd » April 29th, 2020, 3:16 pm

Here is the thing about most anti-body tests. They suck and are unreliable. So while everybody and their brotther are making them, 85% of them don't work.



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Post by ratofallaggies » April 29th, 2020, 3:52 pm

bpd wrote:
April 29th, 2020, 3:16 pm
Here is the thing about most anti-body tests. They suck and are unreliable. So while everybody and their brotther are making them, 85% of them don't work.
Ok, I'll play. That may all very well be true. Anti-body test may be terribly innacurate. But there's something to be said about the fecal matter tests that indicate the same regarding a much higher infected rate, and the controled studies performed by Stanford, the NBA, or Cruise ships on all people (not just those showing symptoms) that confirms a much higher infected rate. Also sheer numbers we have of a state with 3M people and only about 4k confirmed cases.



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Post by Chupamedia » April 29th, 2020, 4:04 pm

bpd wrote:Here is the thing about most anti-body tests. They suck and are unreliable. So while everybody and their brotther are making them, 85% of them don't work.
I’d like to see some data on that. I work for a company that makes tests that are searching for specific antibodies, mainly for cancer detection. We don’t make COVID kits, but an 85% false positive test is unheard of. How would a test find an antibody that does not exist in the host? If you have some information I would like to read about how these are failing at that rate.



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Post by Yossarian » April 29th, 2020, 4:32 pm

ususports wrote:
April 28th, 2020, 12:11 pm
UStateTim wrote:
April 28th, 2020, 11:16 am
Disneyland is already closed until 2021.
This is just as (if not more) speculative than trying to figure out whether or not there will be a college football season.

The funny thing - when Disneyland finally does open in 2021, four of its most popular rides will be down for maintenance.
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Re: When will we know if there will be a season?

Post by GameFAQSAggie » April 29th, 2020, 4:42 pm

:wtf:
Yossarian wrote:
April 29th, 2020, 4:32 pm
ususports wrote:
April 28th, 2020, 12:11 pm
UStateTim wrote:
April 28th, 2020, 11:16 am
Disneyland is already closed until 2021.
This is just as (if not more) speculative than trying to figure out whether or not there will be a college football season.

The funny thing - when Disneyland finally does open in 2021, four of its most popular rides will be down for maintenance.
You would think they could just do the maintenance on the rides while the park is closed.

It's like with the renovation of the bookstore on campus. They were probably originally planning on renovating the south side after the students were gone in May. But then this whole thing comes up and alot of the students are gone, decreasing the demand of both sides of the store, so they just decided that they might as well start the renovation earlier while it's slow anyways.



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Re: When will we know if there will be a season?

Post by 3rdGenAggie » April 29th, 2020, 5:34 pm

ratofallaggies wrote:
April 29th, 2020, 12:22 pm
Ok, I'll bite. The initial narrative of staying home was to not overload the system.... NOT death. This was never about death. Now the media is all over fear porn and that's all they talk about, not to mention that states/hospitals receive added funding if deaths are coded under the Rona. The curve is being flattened and we have the ability to deal with what we need to (the naval ship that was sent to NY has already packed up and was sent back because they don't need the added resources anymore). Now after antibody tests performed accross the country, and the controled testing that MIT performed on sewage (yeah I know, it's gross), we know that initial models and assumptions were downplaying how many people have truly been effected by atleast 50%.... experts and politicians (including Cuomo) have downgraded the initial rates of 5-10% to now .5-1% that includes all deaths that are reported from the Rona.... There will be a football season, and there will be a basketball season. END RANT
You're speaking my language. I realize that everyone said that "if it works, it'll look like an overreaction" and I agree with that. BUT, it's also possible that the measures, were, in fact, an overreaction. It's too early to tell, but I sincerely hope people will look into it when all is said and done to see how it could have been handled better. (Problem is we're dealing with politicians who will never admit something was done wrong. Otherwise they risk their re-election campaign.)
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