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Re: Recruiting

Post by aggies22 » January 20th, 2020, 9:40 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote:
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I don't know who McGriff is...any position or size information,,, ratings please. Thanks in advance.
Top player in the list. Former Nebraska player.

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I am excited about Mcgriff, but one thing that gives me pause is he left Nebraska because they switched him to a LB because they felt like he wasn’t going to play as a WR.
I did some digging and that’s what I found.
I thought I had read that they tried to switch him to tight end.



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Re: Recruiting

Post by Roy McAvoy » January 20th, 2020, 9:46 pm

aggies22 wrote:
January 20th, 2020, 9:40 pm
Roy McAvoy wrote:
January 20th, 2020, 9:37 pm
slcagg wrote:
January 20th, 2020, 9:31 pm
NavyBlueAggie wrote:
January 20th, 2020, 9:28 pm
I don't know who McGriff is...any position or size information,,, ratings please. Thanks in advance.
Top player in the list. Former Nebraska player.

https://247sports.com/college/utah-stat ... l/Targets/
I am excited about Mcgriff, but one thing that gives me pause is he left Nebraska because they switched him to a LB because they felt like he wasn’t going to play as a WR.
I did some digging and that’s what I found.
I thought I had read that they tried to switch him to tight end.
Here’s a link I found referencing it.
https://hailvarsity.com/s/5707/justin-m ... m-nebraska
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Re: Recruiting

Post by aggies22 » January 20th, 2020, 10:22 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote:
January 20th, 2020, 9:46 pm
aggies22 wrote:
January 20th, 2020, 9:40 pm
Roy McAvoy wrote:
January 20th, 2020, 9:37 pm
slcagg wrote:
January 20th, 2020, 9:31 pm
NavyBlueAggie wrote:
January 20th, 2020, 9:28 pm
I don't know who McGriff is...any position or size information,,, ratings please. Thanks in advance.
Top player in the list. Former Nebraska player.

https://247sports.com/college/utah-stat ... l/Targets/
I am excited about Mcgriff, but one thing that gives me pause is he left Nebraska because they switched him to a LB because they felt like he wasn’t going to play as a WR.
I did some digging and that’s what I found.
I thought I had read that they tried to switch him to tight end.
Here’s a link I found referencing it.
https://hailvarsity.com/s/5707/justin-m ... m-nebraska
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Re: Recruiting

Post by brownjeans » January 20th, 2020, 10:56 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote:
January 20th, 2020, 9:37 pm
I am excited about Mcgriff, but one thing that gives me pause is he left Nebraska because they switched him to a LB because they felt like he wasn’t going to play as a WR.
Why does that give you pause?



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Re: Recruiting

Post by bullshot » January 21st, 2020, 5:54 am

Because they tried to switch Lavalle from LB to DL, and look how that turned out.



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Re: Recruiting

Post by 2004AG » January 21st, 2020, 8:08 am

brownjeans wrote:
Roy McAvoy wrote:
January 20th, 2020, 9:37 pm
I am excited about Mcgriff, but one thing that gives me pause is he left Nebraska because they switched him to a LB because they felt like he wasn’t going to play as a WR.
Why does that give you pause?
Because it means he’s not a good WR??


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Re: Recruiting

Post by ususports » January 21st, 2020, 8:47 am

2004AG wrote:
January 21st, 2020, 8:08 am
brownjeans wrote:
Roy McAvoy wrote:
January 20th, 2020, 9:37 pm
I am excited about Mcgriff, but one thing that gives me pause is he left Nebraska because they switched him to a LB because they felt like he wasn’t going to play as a WR.
Why does that give you pause?
Because it means he’s not a good WR??
I was under the impression that 99% of players in the portal are leaving their current school because they are 1st string and getting too much playing time.



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Re: Recruiting

Post by Roy McAvoy » January 21st, 2020, 9:03 am

ususports wrote:
January 21st, 2020, 8:47 am
2004AG wrote:
January 21st, 2020, 8:08 am
brownjeans wrote:
Roy McAvoy wrote:
January 20th, 2020, 9:37 pm
I am excited about Mcgriff, but one thing that gives me pause is he left Nebraska because they switched him to a LB because they felt like he wasn’t going to play as a WR.
Why does that give you pause?
Because it means he’s not a good WR??
I was under the impression that 99% of players in the portal are leaving their current school because they are 1st string and getting too much playing time.
This is why you have to be careful posting stuff here I guess. Misinformation can spread.

Mcgriff isn't in the "transfer portal". He's at a Junior College. He left Nebraska to go to ASA junior college in Miami. In 7 games he had 25 catches for 360 yards and 8 TD's.

I "had pause" because Nebraska felt like he shouldn't play WR. However, there's a myriad of reasons as to why that may not be a bad thing. Such as,
Players improve, coaches get things wrong, maybe there was a logjam at the position and Nebraska needed speed, not size (we need size), etc.



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Re: Recruiting

Post by aggies22 » January 21st, 2020, 9:18 am

Roy McAvoy wrote:
January 21st, 2020, 9:03 am
ususports wrote:
January 21st, 2020, 8:47 am
2004AG wrote:
January 21st, 2020, 8:08 am
brownjeans wrote:
Roy McAvoy wrote:
January 20th, 2020, 9:37 pm
I am excited about Mcgriff, but one thing that gives me pause is he left Nebraska because they switched him to a LB because they felt like he wasn’t going to play as a WR.
Why does that give you pause?
Because it means he’s not a good WR??
I was under the impression that 99% of players in the portal are leaving their current school because they are 1st string and getting too much playing time.
This is why you have to be careful posting stuff here I guess. Misinformation can spread.

Mcgriff isn't in the "transfer portal". He's at a Junior College. He left Nebraska to go to ASA junior college in Miami. In 7 games he had 25 catches for 360 yards and 8 TD's.

I "had pause" because Nebraska felt like he shouldn't play WR. However, there's a myriad of reasons as to why that may not be a bad thing. Such as,
Players improve, coaches get things wrong, maybe there was a logjam at the position and Nebraska needed speed, not size (we need size), etc.
I have a trusted source in Florida that believes McGriff can definitely help us.
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Re: Recruiting

Post by Aggie19 » January 21st, 2020, 9:25 am

Just remember, these guys didn't have great numbers at their previously schools either.
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Re: Recruiting

Post by aggies22 » January 21st, 2020, 9:27 am

Man, I am glad I was dead a$$ wrong about Mariner.



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Re: Recruiting

Post by ususports » January 21st, 2020, 9:27 am

Roy McAvoy wrote:
January 21st, 2020, 9:03 am
ususports wrote:
January 21st, 2020, 8:47 am
2004AG wrote:
January 21st, 2020, 8:08 am
brownjeans wrote:
Roy McAvoy wrote:
January 20th, 2020, 9:37 pm
I am excited about Mcgriff, but one thing that gives me pause is he left Nebraska because they switched him to a LB because they felt like he wasn’t going to play as a WR.
Why does that give you pause?
Because it means he’s not a good WR??
I was under the impression that 99% of players in the portal are leaving their current school because they are 1st string and getting too much playing time.
This is why you have to be careful posting stuff here I guess. Misinformation can spread.

Mcgriff isn't in the "transfer portal". He's at a Junior College. He left Nebraska to go to ASA junior college in Miami. In 7 games he had 25 catches for 360 yards and 8 TD's.

I "had pause" because Nebraska felt like he shouldn't play WR. However, there's a myriad of reasons as to why that may not be a bad thing. Such as,
Players improve, coaches get things wrong, maybe there was a logjam at the position and Nebraska needed speed, not size (we need size), etc.
I completely agree. That is exactly what I was implying with my comment.



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Re: Recruiting

Post by Roy McAvoy » January 21st, 2020, 9:29 am

aggies22 wrote:
January 21st, 2020, 9:18 am
Roy McAvoy wrote:
January 21st, 2020, 9:03 am
ususports wrote:
January 21st, 2020, 8:47 am
2004AG wrote:
January 21st, 2020, 8:08 am
brownjeans wrote:
Roy McAvoy wrote:
January 20th, 2020, 9:37 pm
I am excited about Mcgriff, but one thing that gives me pause is he left Nebraska because they switched him to a LB because they felt like he wasn’t going to play as a WR.
Why does that give you pause?
Because it means he’s not a good WR??
I was under the impression that 99% of players in the portal are leaving their current school because they are 1st string and getting too much playing time.
This is why you have to be careful posting stuff here I guess. Misinformation can spread.

Mcgriff isn't in the "transfer portal". He's at a Junior College. He left Nebraska to go to ASA junior college in Miami. In 7 games he had 25 catches for 360 yards and 8 TD's.

I "had pause" because Nebraska felt like he shouldn't play WR. However, there's a myriad of reasons as to why that may not be a bad thing. Such as,
Players improve, coaches get things wrong, maybe there was a logjam at the position and Nebraska needed speed, not size (we need size), etc.
I have a trusted source in Florida that believes McGriff can definitely help us.
I believe it too. He looks awesome in the highlight film.



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Re: Recruiting

Post by aggies22 » January 21st, 2020, 9:35 am

This dude is coming this weekend as well.

John Gentry 5'10" 180 (247 3*) - RB - North Shore HS, TX
Offers from: Arkansas, Colorado St, Hawaii, Houston, Louisiana, New Mexico, New Mexico St, North Texas, Oklahoma St, Southern Mississippi, Tennesse, Texas St, Texas-San Antonio, Tulsa, UNLV, Utah, UTEP, Wyoming
Interest in USU: WARMER
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Re: Recruiting

Post by YoungBloodAggie » January 21st, 2020, 9:38 am

aggies22 wrote:
January 21st, 2020, 9:35 am
This dude is coming this weekend as well.

John Gentry 5'10" 180 (247 3*) - RB - North Shore HS, TX
Offers from: Arkansas, Colorado St, Hawaii, Houston, Louisiana, New Mexico, New Mexico St, North Texas, Oklahoma St, Southern Mississippi, Tennesse, Texas St, Texas-San Antonio, Tulsa, UNLV, Utah, UTEP, Wyoming
Interest in USU: WARMER
https://247sports.com/player/john-gentry-46054715/
https://hwww.hudl.com/profile/9009089/John-Gentry
This would be an amazing flip, for two reasons:

1. It would signal that our recruiting efforts are now landing us great prospects with offer lists we haven't really touched before.
2. Hearing Utes backpedal and dismiss him as someone that wouldn't have played much would make me LOL for weeks.


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Re: Recruiting

Post by AggiesForever » January 21st, 2020, 9:41 am

Guys, keep this in mind when considering Gary's recruits: Somebody mentioned we had a plethora of "diamonds in the rough." This is exactly the way he recruited the last time. He scoured the region for guys who love to play (Vigils, Doughty, and other similar players) or guys who had been passed over for some reason (small school, out of the way location, etc). IF they have skills, Gary builds on that love for playing and molds them into good players. The other premium Gary looks for is speed, speed and more speed. If a guy is mid-sized and fast, Gary will take him and then let our nutrition and weight program build him up. Speed is the key skill and last year we simply did not have enough of that, especially on defense. Our loses to Air Force, BYU and Kent State were directly attributable to the fact that we weren't fast enough to pursue laterally and, in some cases, vertically. We have to get faster.



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Re: Recruiting

Post by newhouse9 » January 21st, 2020, 9:53 am

AggiesForever wrote:
January 21st, 2020, 9:41 am
Guys, keep this in mind when considering Gary's recruits: Somebody mentioned we had a plethora of "diamonds in the rough." This is exactly the way he recruited the last time. He scoured the region for guys who love to play (Vigils, Doughty, and other similar players) or guys who had been passed over for some reason (small school, out of the way location, etc). IF they have skills, Gary builds on that love for playing and molds them into good players. The other premium Gary looks for is speed, speed and more speed. If a guy is mid-sized and fast, Gary will take him and then let our nutrition and weight program build him up. Speed is the key skill and last year we simply did not have enough of that, especially on defense. Our loses to Air Force, BYU and Kent State were directly attributable to the fact that we weren't fast enough to pursue laterally and, in some cases, vertically. We have to get faster.
That's what seemed to be missing last year...many of the guys did not seem to really enjoy the game...I want those guys that love to play and understand that football is the greatest sport ever!



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Re: Recruiting

Post by jeffdan25 » January 21st, 2020, 10:27 am

Keep in mind that John Gentry played at the same high school as Zach Evans one of the top running backs in the country. I've seen a ton of film on this kid and I believe He would start day one here at USU. If it wasn't for splitting carries he easily would be a top tier P5 player. It's also good to note he comes from the same high school as AJ Carter!
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Re: Recruiting

Post by aggies22 » January 21st, 2020, 10:38 am

jeffdan25 wrote:
January 21st, 2020, 10:27 am
Keep in mind that John Gentry played at the same high school as Zach Evans one of the top running backs in the country. I've seen a ton of film on this kid and I believe He would start day one here at USU. If it wasn't for splitting carries he easily would be a top tier P5 player. It's also good to note he comes from the same high school as AJ Carter!
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Re: Recruiting

Post by Sl7vk » January 21st, 2020, 10:42 am

aggies22 wrote:
January 21st, 2020, 9:35 am
This dude is coming this weekend as well.

John Gentry 5'10" 180 (247 3*) - RB - North Shore HS, TX
Offers from: Arkansas, Colorado St, Hawaii, Houston, Louisiana, New Mexico, New Mexico St, North Texas, Oklahoma St, Southern Mississippi, Tennesse, Texas St, Texas-San Antonio, Tulsa, UNLV, Utah, UTEP, Wyoming
Interest in USU: WARMER
https://247sports.com/player/john-gentry-46054715/
https://hwww.hudl.com/profile/9009089/John-Gentry
Dear lord.
Can you imagine him and Noa in a two RB set?
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Re: Recruiting

Post by 2004AG » January 21st, 2020, 10:45 am

ususports wrote:
2004AG wrote:
January 21st, 2020, 8:08 am
brownjeans wrote:
Roy McAvoy wrote:
January 20th, 2020, 9:37 pm
I am excited about Mcgriff, but one thing that gives me pause is he left Nebraska because they switched him to a LB because they felt like he wasn’t going to play as a WR.
Why does that give you pause?
Because it means he’s not a good WR??
I was under the impression that 99% of players in the portal are leaving their current school because they are 1st string and getting too much playing time.
I just answered the question.

“Pause” because one school doesn’t think he can play WR doesn’t mean he can’t and shouldn’t and coaches make mistakes all the time. But “pause” seems fair.

I’d take him in a heartbeat FWIW.


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Re: Recruiting

Post by ShowMeAggie » January 21st, 2020, 10:54 am

jeffdan25 wrote:
January 21st, 2020, 10:27 am
Keep in mind that John Gentry played at the same high school as Zach Evans one of the top running backs in the country. I've seen a ton of film on this kid and I believe He would start day one here at USU. If it wasn't for splitting carries he easily would be a top tier P5 player. It's also good to note he comes from the same high school as AJ Carter!
this is awesome. went to watch highlights on this awesome RB and saw highlights for an awesome WR instead? I assume this is why...coaches had to find a way to get him on the field even if it wasn't in his 'natural' position? If so, then I like his attitude as much as I like his skill set and his rankings



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Re: Recruiting

Post by YoungBloodAggie » January 21st, 2020, 10:55 am

jeffdan25 wrote:
January 21st, 2020, 10:27 am
Keep in mind that John Gentry played at the same high school as Zach Evans one of the top running backs in the country. I've seen a ton of film on this kid and I believe He would start day one here at USU. If it wasn't for splitting carries he easily would be a top tier P5 player. It's also good to note he comes from the same high school as AJ Carter!
While true, he also got a lot of work as an RB because Evans is a headcase that got himself suspended by his own coaching staff on more than one occasion, including the state championship game. Gentry may be a little underrated, but he is definitely known by the majority of P5 schools. He would be one of the most impressive pulls we've ever had.


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Re: Recruiting

Post by jeffdan25 » January 21st, 2020, 11:12 am

YoungBloodAggie wrote:
January 21st, 2020, 10:55 am
jeffdan25 wrote:
January 21st, 2020, 10:27 am
Keep in mind that John Gentry played at the same high school as Zach Evans one of the top running backs in the country. I've seen a ton of film on this kid and I believe He would start day one here at USU. If it wasn't for splitting carries he easily would be a top tier P5 player. It's also good to note he comes from the same high school as AJ Carter!
While true, he also got a lot of work as an RB because Evans is a headcase that got himself suspended by his own coaching staff on more than one occasion, including the state championship game. Gentry may be a little underrated, but he is definitely known by the majority of P5 schools. He would be one of the most impressive pulls we've ever had.
100% Agree. He did end up running the ball quite a bit this year because of that. I'm Just stating that a lot of the big time P5 schools like to see a body of work not just what you did your senior year. I think this is the only reason he didn't get some huge offers. He still has 5 or so mid range P% offers. I agree 1000% this would be one of the most impressive gets we've ever had!



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Re: Recruiting

Post by slcagg » January 21st, 2020, 11:29 am

YoungBloodAggie wrote:
January 21st, 2020, 10:55 am
jeffdan25 wrote:
January 21st, 2020, 10:27 am
Keep in mind that John Gentry played at the same high school as Zach Evans one of the top running backs in the country. I've seen a ton of film on this kid and I believe He would start day one here at USU. If it wasn't for splitting carries he easily would be a top tier P5 player. It's also good to note he comes from the same high school as AJ Carter!
While true, he also got a lot of work as an RB because Evans is a headcase that got himself suspended by his own coaching staff on more than one occasion, including the state championship game. Gentry may be a little underrated, but he is definitely known by the majority of P5 schools. He would be one of the most impressive pulls we've ever had.
Cool to see his perspective. That even with those p5 offers he is currently committed to a g5 program in a g5 caliber conference.
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Re: Recruiting

Post by Roy McAvoy » January 21st, 2020, 1:43 pm

aggies22 wrote:
January 21st, 2020, 9:35 am
This dude is coming this weekend as well.

John Gentry 5'10" 180 (247 3*) - RB - North Shore HS, TX
Offers from: Arkansas, Colorado St, Hawaii, Houston, Louisiana, New Mexico, New Mexico St, North Texas, Oklahoma St, Southern Mississippi, Tennesse, Texas St, Texas-San Antonio, Tulsa, UNLV, Utah, UTEP, Wyoming
Interest in USU: WARMER
https://247sports.com/player/john-gentry-46054715/
https://hwww.hudl.com/profile/9009089/John-Gentry
Here's a clip of this kid:



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Re: Recruiting

Post by aggies22 » January 21st, 2020, 1:47 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote:
January 21st, 2020, 1:43 pm
aggies22 wrote:
January 21st, 2020, 9:35 am
This dude is coming this weekend as well.

John Gentry 5'10" 180 (247 3*) - RB - North Shore HS, TX
Offers from: Arkansas, Colorado St, Hawaii, Houston, Louisiana, New Mexico, New Mexico St, North Texas, Oklahoma St, Southern Mississippi, Tennesse, Texas St, Texas-San Antonio, Tulsa, UNLV, Utah, UTEP, Wyoming
Interest in USU: WARMER
https://247sports.com/player/john-gentry-46054715/
https://hwww.hudl.com/profile/9009089/John-Gentry
Here's a clip of this kid:
Yeah, but that's against the highest level of high school ball in Texas. I mean how good could his opposition be??
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Re: Recruiting

Post by brownjeans » January 21st, 2020, 2:37 pm

2004AG wrote:
January 21st, 2020, 8:08 am
brownjeans wrote:
Roy McAvoy wrote:
January 20th, 2020, 9:37 pm
I am excited about Mcgriff, but one thing that gives me pause is he left Nebraska because they switched him to a LB because they felt like he wasn’t going to play as a WR.
Why does that give you pause?
Because it means he’s not a good WR??
Could be.

I don't know the Nebraska roster. Are they deep at WR and thin at OLB? Maybe that's why they wanted him to move. If he's decent at WR, TE, or OLB, I'm good. We could use help at all of those.



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Re: Recruiting

Post by mcaggie1 » January 21st, 2020, 2:38 pm

Looks like Gentry is leaning towards Utah.



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Re: Recruiting

Post by utahcountyaggie » January 21st, 2020, 2:48 pm

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Looks like Gentry is leaning towards Utah.
I believe he was originally an Arkansas commit. De-commited then gave commitment to Utah. We are trying to flip his commitment once more (hopefully for the last time) :)

I believe 22 has entered his Crystal Ball prediction in favor of us flipping him from Utah to USU. That's a pretty good sign, 22 has a pretty good track record on his logged Crystal Ball predictions.

As has already been stated, would be a HUGE pickup for us. I believe he'd bump ahead of Bojay as our 2nd highest ranked recruit in program history.
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Re: Recruiting

Post by ususports » January 21st, 2020, 2:49 pm

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Dear lord.
Can you imagine him and Noa in a two RB set?
I think of all people, the Lord can imagine. He is a good person to ask and bounce around ideas with though.



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Re: Recruiting

Post by Roy McAvoy » January 21st, 2020, 2:53 pm

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Looks like Gentry is leaning towards Utah.
What you're looking at is old information. There's quite a history here, actually.

He originally committed to Arkansas, and then flipped to Utah. He was going to be Utah's RB commitment in the early signing class in Dec. 2019. However, two things happened that delayed it. Utah flipped Texas RB commit, Ty Jordan to Utah and then Gentry's grades weren't very good. Supposedly him qualifying came into question.

Those two things combined opened the door for USU. Make no mistake though, this kid is awesome and Utah is still interested. Landing him would be huge.
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Re: Recruiting

Post by newhouse9 » January 21st, 2020, 3:12 pm

Keeping my fingers crossed on this one...go get him Gary!



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Re: Recruiting

Post by AgMan21 » January 21st, 2020, 4:06 pm

utahcountyaggie wrote:
January 21st, 2020, 2:48 pm
mcaggie1 wrote:
January 21st, 2020, 2:38 pm
Looks like Gentry is leaning towards Utah.
I believe he was originally an Arkansas commit. De-commited then gave commitment to Utah. We are trying to flip his commitment once more (hopefully for the last time) :)

I believe 22 has entered his Crystal Ball prediction in favor of us flipping him from Utah to USU. That's a pretty good sign, 22 has a pretty good track record on his logged Crystal Ball predictions.

As has already been stated, would be a HUGE pickup for us. I believe he'd bump ahead of Bojay as our 2nd highest ranked recruit in program history.
Does Brian Soi not count?



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Re: Recruiting

Post by aggies22 » January 21st, 2020, 4:11 pm

AgMan21 wrote:
January 21st, 2020, 4:06 pm
utahcountyaggie wrote:
January 21st, 2020, 2:48 pm
mcaggie1 wrote:
January 21st, 2020, 2:38 pm
Looks like Gentry is leaning towards Utah.
I believe he was originally an Arkansas commit. De-commited then gave commitment to Utah. We are trying to flip his commitment once more (hopefully for the last time) :)

I believe 22 has entered his Crystal Ball prediction in favor of us flipping him from Utah to USU. That's a pretty good sign, 22 has a pretty good track record on his logged Crystal Ball predictions.

As has already been stated, would be a HUGE pickup for us. I believe he'd bump ahead of Bojay as our 2nd highest ranked recruit in program history.
Does Brian Soi not count?
Brian Soi is #1, Bojay is #2, Christian LaValle is #3, Hunter Hill is #4 and Brandon Swindall is #5.



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