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CFR.bigblue wrote: ↑December 17th, 2019, 1:51 pmWell my experiences speak otherwise.USU78 wrote:They check breath and eyes, along with some other stuff. The pee test takes a while to administer and process results. There's some science to it. Don't kneejerk throw the cops under the bus based on rumor mill.
Thank you!bluegrouse wrote:Here is the quote from Love’s attorney:
Love’s attorney, Skye Lazaro, issued a statement via email to The Salt Lake Tribune regarding the incident.
“Contrary to initial reports Jordan Love was not arrested for any offense, but simply cited by the officer for a low-level misdemeanor possession charge," Lazaro said. "Based on the information available at this time, there was no marijuana or other illegal substances recovered at the scene. Jordan maintains his innocence and is confident he will be exonerated as this matter progresses through the judicial process.”
One problem is he hired the same attorney that was unsuccessful at defending Torrey Green and pleading his innocence. He should have instead hired the attorney that got Turbin acquitted of charges.bluegrouse wrote: ↑December 17th, 2019, 4:40 pmListening to 1280 a few minutes ago. Love’s attorney says he is innocent and will be absolved of all charges....
FWIW.
Kinda ridiculous the kid has to hire an attorney for something like this.
He was in my ward growing up. My mom got a ticket for turning into the outside lane from another Logan cop. She then asked him if he ever give tickets for that. He told her he didn't and just looks for DUIs.Imakeitrain wrote: ↑December 17th, 2019, 1:04 pmI like Captain Budge, I honestly don't think he cares if college students are smoking weed in an apartment after finals. But the politics of this valley really ruin our reputation.
I got pulled over and given a warning in Logan because I didn’t have my turn signal on in a dedicated left turn lane near the Cache Valley Mall. True story as hard as it might be to believe. Pretty sure Captain Budge wouldn’t have done that either.GameFAQSAggie wrote: ↑December 17th, 2019, 6:50 pmHe was in my ward growing up. My mom got a ticket for turning into the outside lane from another Logan cop. She then asked him if he ever give tickets for that. He told her he didn't and just looks for DUIs.Imakeitrain wrote: ↑December 17th, 2019, 1:04 pmI like Captain Budge, I honestly don't think he cares if college students are smoking weed in an apartment after finals. But the politics of this valley really ruin our reputation.
I have heard of other people getting pulled over for not using their signals in lanes where it is obvious they are turning. And people who get tickets for having their signal on less than three seconds. I also once got pulled over for coming to a stop at a light too quickly.bluegrouse wrote: ↑December 17th, 2019, 6:57 pmI got pulled over and given a warning in Logan because I didn’t have my turn signal on in a dedicated left turn lane near the Cache Valley Mall. True story as hard as it might be to believe. Pretty sure Captain Budge wouldn’t have done that either.GameFAQSAggie wrote: ↑December 17th, 2019, 6:50 pmHe was in my ward growing up. My mom got a ticket for turning into the outside lane from another Logan cop. She then asked him if he ever give tickets for that. He told her he didn't and just looks for DUIs.Imakeitrain wrote: ↑December 17th, 2019, 1:04 pmI like Captain Budge, I honestly don't think he cares if college students are smoking weed in an apartment after finals. But the politics of this valley really ruin our reputation.
And it wouldn’t take long to find the results. Since this was Saturday, they’d have it by now.GameFAQSAggie wrote:One other thing, you would think that a urine test could prove their guilt or innocence real easily.
Can you provide the name of the attorney representing him? I know who represented Torrey Green and it was not the best choice. Same for Robert Turbin despite the acquittal. We don't have many criminal attorneys in Logan but I know 3 locally that rival any in the state and have good ties with law enforcement and the county prosecutors. Outside attorneys (e.g. SLC) generally don't fair well here in the valley. Given the arrest situation even if JL were to have a dirty UA the probability of getting the charges dropped is high and acquittal even more so if it is bench trial. Lee Edwards is a very reasonable man as was Marx contrary to comments on this board. Even with a "mediocre at best attorney" this is winnable and is going to go away. BBall Jarred Shaw's case was a bigger problem.GameFAQSAggie wrote: ↑December 17th, 2019, 6:48 pmOne problem is he hired the same attorney that was unsuccessful at defending Torrey Green and pleading his innocence. He should have instead hired the attorney that got Turbin acquitted of charges.bluegrouse wrote: ↑December 17th, 2019, 4:40 pmListening to 1280 a few minutes ago. Love’s attorney says he is innocent and will be absolved of all charges....
FWIW.
Kinda ridiculous the kid has to hire an attorney for something like this.
Correct. This is why I don't buy the "he'll be acquitted" line. The article implies they got urine samples from all of them - some willingly and some via a warrant. I'll go ahead and put my money on those urine results.GameFAQSAggie wrote: ↑December 17th, 2019, 7:01 pmOne other thing, you would think that a urine test could prove their guilt or innocence real easily.
KSL is reporting he had a dirty UA. I have heard those aren't as accurate as a blood or hair follicle test.Mediocre at Best wrote:Can you provide the name of the attorney representing him? I know who represented Torrey Green and it was not the best choice. Same for Robert Turbin despite the acquittal. We don't have many criminal attorneys in Logan but I know 3 locally that rival any in the state and have good ties with law enforcement and the county prosecutors. Outside attorneys (e.g. SLC) generally don't fair well here in the valley. Given the arrest situation even if JL were to have a dirty UA the probability of getting the charges dropped is high and acquittal even more so if it is bench trial. Lee Edwards is a very reasonable man as was Marx contrary to comments on this board. Even with a "mediocre at best attorney" this is winnable and is going to go away. BBall Jarred Shaw's case was a bigger problem.GameFAQSAggie wrote: ↑December 17th, 2019, 6:48 pmOne problem is he hired the same attorney that was unsuccessful at defending Torrey Green and pleading his innocence. He should have instead hired the attorney that got Turbin acquitted of charges.bluegrouse wrote: ↑December 17th, 2019, 4:40 pmListening to 1280 a few minutes ago. Love’s attorney says he is innocent and will be absolved of all charges....
FWIW.
Kinda ridiculous the kid has to hire an attorney for something like this.
Skye Lazaro. Robert Turbin got Mark Flores.Mediocre at Best wrote: ↑December 17th, 2019, 7:17 pmCan you provide the name of the attorney representing him? I know who represented Torrey Green and it was not the best choice. Same for Robert Turbin despite the acquittal. We don't have many criminal attorneys in Logan but I know 3 locally that rival any in the state and have good ties with law enforcement and the county prosecutors. Outside attorneys (e.g. SLC) generally don't fair well here in the valley. Given the arrest situation even if JL were to have a dirty UA the probability of getting the charges dropped is high and acquittal even more so if it is bench trial. Lee Edwards is a very reasonable man as was Marx contrary to comments on this board. Even with a "mediocre at best attorney" this is winnable and is going to go away. BBall Jarred Shaw's case was a bigger problem.GameFAQSAggie wrote: ↑December 17th, 2019, 6:48 pmOne problem is he hired the same attorney that was unsuccessful at defending Torrey Green and pleading his innocence. He should have instead hired the attorney that got Turbin acquitted of charges.bluegrouse wrote: ↑December 17th, 2019, 4:40 pmListening to 1280 a few minutes ago. Love’s attorney says he is innocent and will be absolved of all charges....
FWIW.
Kinda ridiculous the kid has to hire an attorney for something like this.
Although I don't think it will be in time for the Senior Bowl, I do think this will get cleared up well before the NFL Combine.frankiesaysrelax wrote: ↑December 17th, 2019, 4:30 pmIf this really is the case and it ends up costing Jordan by dropping in the draft, would he have a case against anyone? I'd be pretty pissed if I got implicated in something right before the biggest opportunity in my life that could cost me money.aggies22 wrote: ↑December 17th, 2019, 3:24 pmThis will be adjudicated and over with before the NFL combine. By that time Jordan will be able to answer any naysayers by telling them he wasn't involved.ThunderAggie wrote: ↑December 17th, 2019, 3:15 pmI wish this was the case but it is already all over espn and internet. People are going to label him which stinks for him and his legacy and future career.AgMan21 wrote: ↑December 17th, 2019, 3:13 pmI guess we're all just going to ignore this...? One of the few people on this board with good sources and I haven't even seen much of a response to this post.
This is the problem with assuming that everyone is guilty from the get go. Let's wait until we have some actual facts before we "lose respect" for these players. Love and Bright at the very least have earned that much right?
Is it weird that I just assumed it was Demler. Every time I see a high profile case I think "Demler"GameFAQSAggie wrote: ↑December 17th, 2019, 7:23 pmSkye Lazaro. Robert Turbin got Mark Flores.Mediocre at Best wrote: ↑December 17th, 2019, 7:17 pmCan you provide the name of the attorney representing him? I know who represented Torrey Green and it was not the best choice. Same for Robert Turbin despite the acquittal. We don't have many criminal attorneys in Logan but I know 3 locally that rival any in the state and have good ties with law enforcement and the county prosecutors. Outside attorneys (e.g. SLC) generally don't fair well here in the valley. Given the arrest situation even if JL were to have a dirty UA the probability of getting the charges dropped is high and acquittal even more so if it is bench trial. Lee Edwards is a very reasonable man as was Marx contrary to comments on this board. Even with a "mediocre at best attorney" this is winnable and is going to go away. BBall Jarred Shaw's case was a bigger problem.GameFAQSAggie wrote: ↑December 17th, 2019, 6:48 pmOne problem is he hired the same attorney that was unsuccessful at defending Torrey Green and pleading his innocence. He should have instead hired the attorney that got Turbin acquitted of charges.bluegrouse wrote: ↑December 17th, 2019, 4:40 pmListening to 1280 a few minutes ago. Love’s attorney says he is innocent and will be absolved of all charges....
FWIW.
Kinda ridiculous the kid has to hire an attorney for something like this.
Imakeitrain wrote: ↑December 17th, 2019, 8:13 pmIs it weird that I just assumed it was Demler. Every time I see a high profile case I think "Demler"GameFAQSAggie wrote: ↑December 17th, 2019, 7:23 pmSkye Lazaro. Robert Turbin got Mark Flores.Mediocre at Best wrote: ↑December 17th, 2019, 7:17 pmCan you provide the name of the attorney representing him? I know who represented Torrey Green and it was not the best choice. Same for Robert Turbin despite the acquittal. We don't have many criminal attorneys in Logan but I know 3 locally that rival any in the state and have good ties with law enforcement and the county prosecutors. Outside attorneys (e.g. SLC) generally don't fair well here in the valley. Given the arrest situation even if JL were to have a dirty UA the probability of getting the charges dropped is high and acquittal even more so if it is bench trial. Lee Edwards is a very reasonable man as was Marx contrary to comments on this board. Even with a "mediocre at best attorney" this is winnable and is going to go away. BBall Jarred Shaw's case was a bigger problem.GameFAQSAggie wrote: ↑December 17th, 2019, 6:48 pmOne problem is he hired the same attorney that was unsuccessful at defending Torrey Green and pleading his innocence. He should have instead hired the attorney that got Turbin acquitted of charges.bluegrouse wrote: ↑December 17th, 2019, 4:40 pmListening to 1280 a few minutes ago. Love’s attorney says he is innocent and will be absolved of all charges....
No not weird at all. Demler handled Shaw’s case and did it well.
FWIW.
Kinda ridiculous the kid has to hire an attorney for something like this.
Imakeitrain wrote: ↑December 17th, 2019, 8:13 pmIs it weird that I just assumed it was Demler. Every time I see a high profile case I think "Demler"GameFAQSAggie wrote: ↑December 17th, 2019, 7:23 pmSkye Lazaro. Robert Turbin got Mark Flores.Mediocre at Best wrote: ↑December 17th, 2019, 7:17 pmCan you provide the name of the attorney representing him? I know who represented Torrey Green and it was not the best choice. Same for Robert Turbin despite the acquittal. We don't have many criminal attorneys in Logan but I know 3 locally that rival any in the state and have good ties with law enforcement and the county prosecutors. Outside attorneys (e.g. SLC) generally don't fair well here in the valley. Given the arrest situation even if JL were to have a dirty UA the probability of getting the charges dropped is high and acquittal even more so if it is bench trial. Lee Edwards is a very reasonable man as was Marx contrary to comments on this board. Even with a "mediocre at best attorney" this is winnable and is going to go away. BBall Jarred Shaw's case was a bigger problem.GameFAQSAggie wrote: ↑December 17th, 2019, 6:48 pmOne problem is he hired the same attorney that was unsuccessful at defending Torrey Green and pleading his innocence. He should have instead hired the attorney that got Turbin acquitted of charges.bluegrouse wrote: ↑December 17th, 2019, 4:40 pmListening to 1280 a few minutes ago. Love’s attorney says he is innocent and will be absolved of all charges....
No not weird at all. Demler handled Shaw’s case and did it well.
FWIW.
Kinda ridiculous the kid has to hire an attorney for something like this.
The justice judge who was really ornery, Cheryl Russell, died in 2010. I could see why people didn't like her. I thought the Juvenile judge, Burbank, was alot nicer than her.Sl7vk wrote: ↑December 17th, 2019, 8:25 pmYeah. Couldn’t care less.
I had some pretty awful interactions with campus police and the Logan judicial system during my stint (96-00). The judge was a raging b#^}{ there at the time. I remember her lecturing me for 10 minutes when I got my minor in possession of tobacco (yes that’s a thing and I was 18 at the time).
There’s a good poster here who’s a police officer so I’ll leave at this, from 96-00 the Logan PD, campus police, and the local judge were not well viewed.
I’m a white guy so I would imagine it was even worse for minorities.
Hope things have changed.
But a team captain and QB is supposed to be made of better stuff, specially with a lucrative NFL career awaiting him. How effing stupid can he be??
