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Jordan Love to Texas Tech?

Post by OrangeCountyAggie » December 6th, 2019, 12:08 pm

A recent rumor that is circulating the web:

https://wreckemred.com/2019/12/02/texas ... ansfer-qb/

Personally, I think it's more likely he goes pro after this season but if this happened, I'd lose my (I can't express myself without swearing)!



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Post by Roy McAvoy » December 6th, 2019, 12:10 pm

An NFL scout came to Logan to see Love this week and tweeted this about it:

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Re: Jordan Love to Texas Tech?

Post by aceofspadeskb » December 6th, 2019, 12:46 pm

OrangeCountyAggie wrote:
December 6th, 2019, 12:08 pm
A recent rumor that is circulating the web:

https://wreckemred.com/2019/12/02/texas ... ansfer-qb/

Personally, I think it's more likely he goes pro after this season but if this happened, I'd lose my s***!
I wouldn't. I'd be happy for Jordan. He'd get to showcase his senior season with a quality OC who has already proven he can be successful with. Not to mention he'd have taller, more capable targets to throw the ball to on the outside where he had so much success with Tarver and Green last year.



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Re: Jordan Love to Texas Tech?

Post by Chatman » December 6th, 2019, 12:50 pm

I don’t think it would happen but wouldn’t be surprised or blame him. This year has been terrible overall for him and there have been many factors that have contributed, namely a new offensive coordinator and several cold weather games that he doesn’t usually respond well in. Grtting back to his old coordinator in a more visible conference makes some sense for him if he were to come back to college.
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Re: Jordan Love to Texas Tech?

Post by Madmartigan » December 6th, 2019, 12:51 pm

If I'm him I look for a more elite program known for developing QBs like OU over Texas Tech.



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Re: Jordan Love to Texas Tech?

Post by flying_scotsman2.0 » December 6th, 2019, 12:52 pm

If it's a matter of his fingies getting cold during games, he will be quite unsuccessful in the NFL. Not sure why he plays so poorly in the cold.



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Re: Jordan Love to Texas Tech?

Post by aceofspadeskb » December 6th, 2019, 12:56 pm

Madmartigan wrote:
December 6th, 2019, 12:51 pm
If I'm him I look for a more elite program known for developing QBs like OU over Texas Tech.
Yeah...guys like Patrick Mahomes don't fare well in the NFL :joking:



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Re: Jordan Love to Texas Tech

Post by OrangeCountyAggie » December 6th, 2019, 12:57 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote:
December 6th, 2019, 12:10 pm
An NFL scout came to Logan to see Love this week and tweeted this about it:

Good find! Still, doesn't provide much clarity. I wonder which part is off base: A) Going to the NFL instead, B) Staying a USU, or C) Transfering but not to Texas Tech?

I think he should just go pro as I'm pretty sure he'll blow people away with his skills during workouts and the combine. I'd have a hard time rooting for him if he'd transfer to a bigger school. If one of those schools were either TT, Utah or a non-P5 school, he'd be dead to me! :utah: :state:



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Re: Jordan Love to Texas Tech?

Post by Imakeitrain » December 6th, 2019, 1:04 pm

If he’s going to transfer which isn’t a terrible idea he could have a choice to transfer almost anywhere and start - and compete for a championship. Texas tech is not one of those options.

I don’t think his draft stock is as bad as some think



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Re: Jordan Love to Texas Tech?

Post by 2004AG » December 6th, 2019, 1:14 pm

aceofspadeskb wrote:
Madmartigan wrote:
December 6th, 2019, 12:51 pm
If I'm him I look for a more elite program known for developing QBs like OU over Texas Tech.
Yeah...guys like Patrick Mahomes don't fare well in the NFL :joking:
You’re not really trying to make the argument that Tech is better at developing QB’s than Oklahoma and Lincoln Riley ?

You can’t be serious.


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Re: Jordan Love to Texas Tech?

Post by aceofspadeskb » December 6th, 2019, 1:24 pm

2004AG wrote:
aceofspadeskb wrote:
Madmartigan wrote:
December 6th, 2019, 12:51 pm
If I'm him I look for a more elite program known for developing QBs like OU over Texas Tech.
Yeah...guys like Patrick Mahomes don't fare well in the NFL :joking:
You’re not really trying to make the argument that Tech is better at developing QB’s than Oklahoma and Lincoln Riley ?

You can’t be serious.


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Re: Jordan Love to Texas Tech?

Post by Madmartigan » December 6th, 2019, 1:31 pm

2004AG wrote:
December 6th, 2019, 1:14 pm
aceofspadeskb wrote:
Madmartigan wrote:
December 6th, 2019, 12:51 pm
If I'm him I look for a more elite program known for developing QBs like OU over Texas Tech.
Yeah...guys like Patrick Mahomes don't fare well in the NFL :joking:
You’re not really trying to make the argument that Tech is better at developing QB’s than Oklahoma and Lincoln Riley ?

You can’t be serious.


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Re: Jordan Love to Texas Tech

Post by bullshot » December 6th, 2019, 6:23 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote:
December 6th, 2019, 12:10 pm
An NFL scout came to Logan to see Love this week and tweeted this about it:

Nice photo above the inversion gunk. The valley was socked in.



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Re: Jordan Love to Texas Tech?

Post by Mediocre at Best » December 6th, 2019, 7:29 pm

Attended last weeks ASU and UA game in Tempe. Spoke with one scout who says most scouts grade him as a 4th round pick. This is still better than what I was told earlier in the season that he was a 5th round pick. He also said most advocate that he consider transfer to a P5 program to restore his draft stock. As the conversation went further it became clear that other than us in Cache Valley very few have much regard for GA as a head coach and an offensive mind.



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Re: Jordan Love to Texas Tech?

Post by dyedblue » December 6th, 2019, 7:45 pm

Gary has never pretended to be an offensive mind. We are literally the only school where Gary could currently be employed as a head coach so that doesn’t surprise me that he isn’t well thought of. It is what it is though and despite some painful moments we are 7-5.

I would Love Jordan to stick around, but I think he likely goes pro and if not then TT is a great fit with an OC that understands how to use him and adjust to personnel and a head coach that he knows well.


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Re: Jordan Love to Texas Tech?

Post by JFW_AGGIES » December 6th, 2019, 8:10 pm

Mediocre at Best wrote:
December 6th, 2019, 7:29 pm
Attended last weeks ASU and UA game in Tempe. Spoke with one scout who says most scouts grade him as a 4th round pick. This is still better than what I was told earlier in the season that he was a 5th round pick. He also said most advocate that he consider transfer to a P5 program to restore his draft stock. As the conversation went further it became clear that other than us in Cache Valley very few have much regard for GA as a head coach and an offensive mind.
So let me guess did they also say that the GA sucks at recruiting as well. Thats the only thing that matters in college FB!!



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Jordan Love to Texas Tech?

Post by dyedblue » December 6th, 2019, 8:21 pm

JFW_AGGIES wrote:
Mediocre at Best wrote:
December 6th, 2019, 7:29 pm
Attended last weeks ASU and UA game in Tempe. Spoke with one scout who says most scouts grade him as a 4th round pick. This is still better than what I was told earlier in the season that he was a 5th round pick. He also said most advocate that he consider transfer to a P5 program to restore his draft stock. As the conversation went further it became clear that other than us in Cache Valley very few have much regard for GA as a head coach and an offensive mind.
So let me guess did they also say that the GA sucks at recruiting as well. Thats the only thing that matters in college FB!!
Thats why Bobo just got a huge extension, right? He has had some very highly touted recruits.


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Re: Jordan Love to Texas Tech?

Post by QuackAttackAggie » December 6th, 2019, 11:09 pm

2004AG wrote:
aceofspadeskb wrote:
Madmartigan wrote:
December 6th, 2019, 12:51 pm
If I'm him I look for a more elite program known for developing QBs like OU over Texas Tech.
Yeah...guys like Patrick Mahomes don't fare well in the NFL :joking:
You’re not really trying to make the argument that Tech is better at developing QB’s than Oklahoma and Lincoln Riley ?

You can’t be serious.


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Break down what he said

More elite? Check
Known for developing QBs? Check

Nothing to see here.


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Re: Jordan Love to Texas Tech?

Post by Madmartigan » December 7th, 2019, 9:22 am

QuackAttackAggie wrote:
December 6th, 2019, 11:09 pm
2004AG wrote:
aceofspadeskb wrote:
Madmartigan wrote:
December 6th, 2019, 12:51 pm
If I'm him I look for a more elite program known for developing QBs like OU over Texas Tech.
Yeah...guys like Patrick Mahomes don't fare well in the NFL :joking:
You’re not really trying to make the argument that Tech is better at developing QB’s than Oklahoma and Lincoln Riley ?

You can’t be serious.


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Break down what he said

More elite? Check
Known for developing QBs? Check

Nothing to see here.


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Mahomes wasn't developed by the current staff at TTU.



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Re: Jordan Love to Texas Tech?

Post by aceofspadeskb » December 7th, 2019, 9:28 am

Madmartigan wrote:
QuackAttackAggie wrote:
December 6th, 2019, 11:09 pm
2004AG wrote:
aceofspadeskb wrote:
Madmartigan wrote:
December 6th, 2019, 12:51 pm
If I'm him I look for a more elite program known for developing QBs like OU over Texas Tech.
Yeah...guys like Patrick Mahomes don't fare well in the NFL :joking:
You’re not really trying to make the argument that Tech is better at developing QB’s than Oklahoma and Lincoln Riley ?

You can’t be serious.


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Break down what he said

More elite? Check
Known for developing QBs? Check

Nothing to see here.


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Mahomes wasn't developed by the current staff at TTU.
WAY too much is being read into my comment.

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Re: Jordan Love to Texas Tech?

Post by Aggie84025 » December 7th, 2019, 9:48 am

I have come to the realization that Jordan is more than likely gone after the bowl game. Either he will go to the draft or transfer to a higher level school. I am truly thankful for what he has accomplished here. He will always have a special spot in Aggie nation. He has been a great representative of the school and program.
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Re: Jordan Love to Texas Tech?

Post by JFW_AGGIES » December 7th, 2019, 9:55 am

dyedblue wrote:
December 6th, 2019, 8:21 pm
JFW_AGGIES wrote:
Mediocre at Best wrote:
December 6th, 2019, 7:29 pm
Attended last weeks ASU and UA game in Tempe. Spoke with one scout who says most scouts grade him as a 4th round pick. This is still better than what I was told earlier in the season that he was a 5th round pick. He also said most advocate that he consider transfer to a P5 program to restore his draft stock. As the conversation went further it became clear that other than us in Cache Valley very few have much regard for GA as a head coach and an offensive mind.
So let me guess did they also say that the GA sucks at recruiting as well. Thats the only thing that matters in college FB!!
Thats why Bobo just got a huge extension, right? He has had some very highly touted recruits.


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Re: Jordan Love to Texas Tech?

Post by Madmartigan » December 7th, 2019, 10:10 am

aceofspadeskb wrote:
December 7th, 2019, 9:28 am
Madmartigan wrote:
QuackAttackAggie wrote:
December 6th, 2019, 11:09 pm
2004AG wrote:
aceofspadeskb wrote:
Madmartigan wrote:
December 6th, 2019, 12:51 pm
If I'm him I look for a more elite program known for developing QBs like OU over Texas Tech.
Yeah...guys like Patrick Mahomes don't fare well in the NFL :joking:
You’re not really trying to make the argument that Tech is better at developing QB’s than Oklahoma and Lincoln Riley ?

You can’t be serious.


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Break down what he said

More elite? Check
Known for developing QBs? Check

Nothing to see here.


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Mahomes wasn't developed by the current staff at TTU.
WAY too much is being read into my comment.

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My sarcasm meter was off. I should've let it go. I blame QAA for bringing it up again. Kerwynn is slow.
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Re: Jordan Love to Texas Tech?

Post by bigbluebaby » December 7th, 2019, 11:38 am

But wait our offensive play calling is just fine it will all magically be OK next year (according to some on this board).

We need a new OC.

Sorry, this Jordan Love decision (if he go’s to another program) which would be a massive blow to our reputation, is a direct result of poor line play ( I know they are all freshman) and very poor offensive scheme and play calling with absolutely 0 creativity.

Flame away.


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Re: Jordan Love to Texas Tech?

Post by oleblu111 » December 7th, 2019, 12:03 pm

No flame, but anyone that thinks the only thing needed to improve the offense at USU is Yost sitting in the press box calling play's needs A little education. Being completely honest those on the field were not near what was on the field during the last season when he was here, however the first year when he was here was not so wonderful.



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Post by JFW_AGGIES » December 7th, 2019, 12:17 pm

oleblu111 wrote:
December 7th, 2019, 12:03 pm
No flame, but anyone that thinks the only thing needed to improve the offense at USU is Yost sitting in the press box calling play's needs A little education. Being completely honest those on the field were not near what was on the field during the last season when he was here, however the first year when he was here was not so wonderful.
Come on now lets not let facts get in the way of some of the posters on this board's infinite football wisdom! :lol:
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Post by bigbluebaby » December 7th, 2019, 12:32 pm

JFW_AGGIES wrote:
December 7th, 2019, 12:17 pm
oleblu111 wrote:
December 7th, 2019, 12:03 pm
No flame, but anyone that thinks the only thing needed to improve the offense at USU is Yost sitting in the press box calling play's needs A little education. Being completely honest those on the field were not near what was on the field during the last season when he was here, however the first year when he was here was not so wonderful.
Come on now lets not let facts get in the way of some of the posters on this board's infinite football wisdom! :lol:
Sounds like you have some of that yourself.LOL

Enlighten us on how you would fix our horrible offensive performance from this year.

Sounds like you definitely have an opinion what is it so we can sit at your feet and hear your infinite wisdom.


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Re: Jordan Love to Texas Tech?

Post by YoungBloodAggie » December 7th, 2019, 12:48 pm

bigbluebaby wrote:
December 7th, 2019, 12:32 pm
JFW_AGGIES wrote:
December 7th, 2019, 12:17 pm
oleblu111 wrote:
December 7th, 2019, 12:03 pm
No flame, but anyone that thinks the only thing needed to improve the offense at USU is Yost sitting in the press box calling play's needs A little education. Being completely honest those on the field were not near what was on the field during the last season when he was here, however the first year when he was here was not so wonderful.
Come on now lets not let facts get in the way of some of the posters on this board's infinite football wisdom! :lol:
Sounds like you have some of that yourself.LOL

Enlighten us on how you would fix our horrible offensive performance from this year.

Sounds like you definitely have an opinion what is it so we can sit at your feet and hear your infinite wisdom.
I'll share my opinion, and it's not going to be all that appealing to many on this board because it isn't a quick fix.

Recruit better, keep guys growing and eligible, and constantly have a stream of juniors/sophomores that are ready to contribute. We are not typically going to be a program that can expect guys to come in an contribute immediately. Guys will either need to get up to speed on football fundamentals, strength/size, or tactics.

Our process for continually churning out a group of 15/20 guys that spend their first and second years on campus getting ready to contribute is going to be huge. Sure, there are going to be years where things don't time out perfectly (like this year replacing four guys on the OL with underclassmen), but generally you should build towards smooth transitions.

USU cannot rely on natural recruiting hotbeds or huge money coming in to save us, so the process is everything. Roster management, strength and conditioning, hiring position coaches that can teach tactics and technique, and year-to-year continuity are the answers to getting our team competing for MWC titles.
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Re: Jordan Love to Texas Tech?

Post by JFW_AGGIES » December 7th, 2019, 12:54 pm

1st you have to have the Jimmys and the Joe's. Which we're currently addressing. Then I'm willing to let the staff implement their system or philosophy. By yr 3 we can then make an informed decision based on the data. I'm not one to panic but thats just me, I will say that I don't care for the 4-2-5 defense. And thw utes last night are a good example why. For us I like the 3-4 because we can recruit to that. But I'm willing to give the staff 3 yrs before I start calling for change!



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Re: Jordan Love to Texas Tech?

Post by bigbluebaby » December 7th, 2019, 1:09 pm

YoungBloodAggie wrote:
December 7th, 2019, 12:48 pm
bigbluebaby wrote:
December 7th, 2019, 12:32 pm
JFW_AGGIES wrote:
December 7th, 2019, 12:17 pm
oleblu111 wrote:
December 7th, 2019, 12:03 pm
No flame, but anyone that thinks the only thing needed to improve the offense at USU is Yost sitting in the press box calling play's needs A little education. Being completely honest those on the field were not near what was on the field during the last season when he was here, however the first year when he was here was not so wonderful.
Come on now lets not let facts get in the way of some of the posters on this board's infinite football wisdom! :lol:
Sounds like you have some of that yourself.LOL

Enlighten us on how you would fix our horrible offensive performance from this year.

Sounds like you definitely have an opinion what is it so we can sit at your feet and hear your infinite wisdom.
I'll share my opinion, and it's not going to be all that appealing to many on this board because it isn't a quick fix.

Recruit better, keep guys growing and eligible, and constantly have a stream of juniors/sophomores that are ready to contribute. We are not typically going to be a program that can expect guys to come in an contribute immediately. Guys will either need to get up to speed on football fundamentals, strength/size, or tactics.

Our process for continually churning out a group of 15/20 guys that spend their first and second years on campus getting ready to contribute is going to be huge. Sure, there are going to be years where things don't time out perfectly (like this year replacing four guys on the OL with underclassmen), but generally you should build towards smooth transitions.

USU cannot rely on natural recruiting hotbeds or huge money coming in to save us, so the process is everything. Roster management, strength and conditioning, hiring position coaches that can teach tactics and technique, and year-to-year continuity are the answers to getting our team competing for MWC titles.
So it’s all about recruiting ? In your opinion?

Not about offensive scheming and team management?

Good to know.

If we recruit better we will win .

Sounds great.

Except that good coaches just win, see what coach smith did with what he was given.

In college sports more than any other level coaching matters.

Of course recruiting matters a lot. But only within the greater context of what the coach does with those recruits. They have to be put in a place where they can win.

Sorry to disagree with your analysis.

Good coaches (like coach smith) take average players and make them great by game planning and in game adjustments and putting them where they need to play within their capacity’s and they show up and win.

Anyway, that is my opinion, if you are offended that I have one. Then I suggest that message boards are probably not the place for you.


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Re: Jordan Love to Texas Tech?

Post by YoungBloodAggie » December 7th, 2019, 1:18 pm

bigbluebaby wrote:
December 7th, 2019, 1:09 pm

So it’s all about recruiting ? In your opinion?

Not about offensive scheming and team management?

Good to know.

If we recruit better we will win .

Sounds great.

Except that good coaches just win, see what coach smith did with what he was given.

In college sports more than any other level coaching matters.

Of course recruiting matters a lot. But only within the greater context of what the coach does with those recruits. They have to be put in a place where they can win.

Sorry to disagree with your analysis.

Good coaches (like coach smith) take average players and make them great by game planning and in game adjustments and putting them where they need to play within their capacity’s and they show up and win.

Anyway, that is my opinion, if you are offended that I have one. Then I suggest that message boards are probably not the place for you.
1. At the end of the day, yes it is all about recruiting. Sorry if that's boring for you, but recruiting is probably 85% of the battle. This is fairly common knowledge to most folks that follow college football closely.

2. While recruiting is the initial step, a much more important thing to do is keep those guys around and find guys that are more likely to pay off in years 3-5 rather than dudes that look best in high school. Sometimes those two definitions will overlap, sometimes they won't.

3. Coach Smith is a great coach, you won't hear otherwise from me. I would ask you to consider a couple of things. One, he replaced Duryea, a definitely bad coach. The talent we had on our team no doubt looked worse because Duryea was coaching it. An average coach would have gotten more out of Merrill, Brito, Moore, and McEwen (to name a few). Two, the best thing Craig Smith ever did for himself was find Neemias Queta, so that counts as recruiting. Even more to my point, it reinforces the idea that you need to be creative in recruiting and find guys that may be missing one or two things that cause them to be overlooked by the big boys.

4. Scheme doesn't matter as much as execution. You can win running triple option, pro-style, spread, air raid, run-and-gun, etc. What you can't win with is poor execution. This year we had guys that didn't execute as well as our guys last year did. A lot of that is inexperience, and some of it is undoubtedly talent disparity (Raymond, Greene, Thompson, the entire OL).

5. Quick fixes typically sink smaller schools like USU. Wells started to lean on transfers and JUCO's a little more heavily than anyone at Utah State should, and we are now seeing a few of those cracks that needed to be papered over. I think Andersen has a much better grasp on how to build for long-term success, which is encouraging.
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Re: Jordan Love to Texas Tech?

Post by JFW_AGGIES » December 7th, 2019, 1:20 pm

bigbluebaby wrote:
December 7th, 2019, 1:09 pm
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No flame, but anyone that thinks the only thing needed to improve the offense at USU is Yost sitting in the press box calling play's needs A little education. Being completely honest those on the field were not near what was on the field during the last season when he was here, however the first year when he was here was not so wonderful.
Come on now lets not let facts get in the way of some of the posters on this board's infinite football wisdom! :lol:
Sounds like you have some of that yourself.LOL

Enlighten us on how you would fix our horrible offensive performance from this year.

Sounds like you definitely have an opinion what is it so we can sit at your feet and hear your infinite wisdom.
I'll share my opinion, and it's not going to be all that appealing to many on this board because it isn't a quick fix.

Recruit better, keep guys growing and eligible, and constantly have a stream of juniors/sophomores that are ready to contribute. We are not typically going to be a program that can expect guys to come in an contribute immediately. Guys will either need to get up to speed on football fundamentals, strength/size, or tactics.

Our process for continually churning out a group of 15/20 guys that spend their first and second years on campus getting ready to contribute is going to be huge. Sure, there are going to be years where things don't time out perfectly (like this year replacing four guys on the OL with underclassmen), but generally you should build towards smooth transitions.

USU cannot rely on natural recruiting hotbeds or huge money coming in to save us, so the process is everything. Roster management, strength and conditioning, hiring position coaches that can teach tactics and technique, and year-to-year continuity are the answers to getting our team competing for MWC titles.
So it’s all about recruiting ? In your opinion?

Not about offensive scheming and team management?

Good to know.

If we recruit better we will win .

Sounds great.

Except that good coaches just win, see what coach smith did with what he was given.

In college sports more than any other level coaching matters.

Of course recruiting matters a lot. But only within the greater context of what the coach does with those recruits. They have to be put in a place where they can win.

Sorry to disagree with your analysis.

Good coaches (like coach smith) take average players and make them great by game planning and in game adjustments and putting them where they need to play within their capacity’s and they show up and win.

Anyway, that is my opinion, if you are offended that I have one. Then I suggest that message boards are probably not the place for you.
While you make a point that coaching does matter your also ignorant to the recruiting aspect. In basketball everone knows you can flip tbat rather quickly in comparison to FB. Also 1 player can make a big impact on a team in basketball..ie Queta . Where as in FB you have to have depth and talent. Also everyone knew TD was a bad hire when it was made.



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Re: Jordan Love to Texas Tech?

Post by Mogy21 » December 7th, 2019, 3:01 pm

IMO recruiting is def way more import than coaching. Being down on the field at the bsu game, their line was way bigger than ours. I knew it wasn’t a good sign when every single lineman for bsu had probably 6 inches on our biggest. And it played out that way on the scoreboard. You can coach really well but if your guys are undersized then coaching can only go so far.



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Re: Jordan Love to Texas Tech?

Post by bigbluebaby » December 7th, 2019, 3:20 pm

So I’m asking you guys opinions..

Did Air Force have better athletes than Us?

How about BYU?

If not then why did they destroy us?

I think there is no doubt LSU has better athletes and Boise also but Boise not by a bunch.

According to the athletic recruit theory we should have beaten Air Force, BYU and kept it close against BYU.

But we got absolutely destroyed in all 4 games ( no shame against LSU).

If the athletes were similar quality why did we get destroyed?


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