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Lots of offers going out today

Post by JFW_AGGIES » December 2nd, 2019, 6:07 pm

Looks like we're going after DL and TE type kids.



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Post by NavyBlueAggie » December 2nd, 2019, 6:15 pm

Scratching my head about more T E's. We have on the roster 4 Jr. T E's and two Freshman T E's. Perhaps another GOOD Junior T E but a couple of the Junior T E's are big enough to be interior "O" linemen or "D" linemen. The other possibility is we are a verifiable bust with T E's to date. I get it about "D" linemen for next season.



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Re: Lots of offers going out today

Post by aggies22 » December 2nd, 2019, 6:52 pm

Bryson Taukeiaho will be a DE.



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Post by Sl7vk » December 2nd, 2019, 7:28 pm

Next year I think we will be running a pro style offense that could feature 2 tight ends in quite a few sets.
Can't wait to see which kids are committing to USU!

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Post by slcagg » December 2nd, 2019, 7:43 pm

Is Justice Ena related to Justin Ena?



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Post by aggies22 » December 2nd, 2019, 8:17 pm

slcagg wrote:
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Is Justice Ena related to Justin Ena?
Father and son.



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Post by Sl7vk » December 2nd, 2019, 8:42 pm

aggies22 wrote:
December 2nd, 2019, 8:17 pm
slcagg wrote:
December 2nd, 2019, 7:43 pm
Is Justice Ena related to Justin Ena?
Father and son.
That would be an embarrassing miss for us.
Kid's not rated on 247, but their high school just won State 4a. How does he rate? Seems like he's go the size?



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Post by blueblood » December 2nd, 2019, 9:20 pm

Just saw on Twitter that USU made Alex Harrison’s top 5. Along with Nebraska, Oregon, USC, and Utah.


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Re: Lots of offers going out today

Post by Sl7vk » December 2nd, 2019, 9:27 pm

It's super interesting what we are building on our O-line for the future.
Hunter Hill last year, and now some solid guys this year. 247 has Alex Harrison warmer to USU.
Could really be a smash mouth line 3-4 years from now that is dominating in the run game.



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Post by GeoAg » December 2nd, 2019, 9:29 pm

Harrison is a beast on either side of the line
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Post by AndroidAggie » December 3rd, 2019, 6:28 am

If we are going for DL players, that would indicate sticking with the defensive scheme we currently see, yes?



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Post by dyedblue » December 3rd, 2019, 6:48 am

AndroidAggie wrote:If we are going for DL players, that would indicate sticking with the defensive scheme we currently see, yes?
I don’t think we’ll see a change in philosophy on the defensive side of the ball. I’d say first you don’t succeed, try, try again.

We haven’t heard much of substance from Gary, but what he has said points to only to the offense.


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Re: Lots of offers going out today

Post by slcagg » December 3rd, 2019, 6:48 am

I think Harrison is a Utah lean. 22 is that correct?



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Re: Lots of offers going out today

Post by aggies22 » December 3rd, 2019, 7:21 am

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I think Harrison is a Utah lean. 22 is that correct?
I believe so. I have projected him to pick Utah. If we can get him on an official visit before the 13th our chances will increase.
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Post by slcagg » December 3rd, 2019, 8:08 am

aggies22 wrote:
December 3rd, 2019, 7:21 am
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I think Harrison is a Utah lean. 22 is that correct?
I believe so. I have projected him to pick Utah. If we can get him on an official visit before the 13th our chances will increase.
On a complete side note. I was in Lincoln last weekend and you would have guessed Nebraska was playing for the division championship. Sold out stadium of 90k, red everywhere. Really cool atmosphere. Meanwhile I turned on the Utah football game for a minute and you would have thought they could have filled in their 45k seat stadium. Mostly filled up but def some rooM. Kind of crazy considering the metro size they are in, size of stadium and what was on the line.



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Re: Lots of offers going out today

Post by AndroidAggie » December 3rd, 2019, 8:20 am

dyedblue wrote:
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I don’t think we’ll see a change in philosophy on the defensive side of the ball. I’d say first you don’t succeed, try, try again.

We haven’t heard much of substance from Gary, but what he has said points to only to the offense.
do you -- or anyone in general -- think that if we had bigger faster stronger linemen then tipa wouldn't have been neutralized by playing out of position?



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Re: Lots of offers going out today

Post by GUS » December 3rd, 2019, 8:49 am

When is the December signing day?



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Post by aggies22 » December 3rd, 2019, 8:50 am

AndroidAggie wrote:
December 3rd, 2019, 8:20 am
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December 3rd, 2019, 6:48 am
I don’t think we’ll see a change in philosophy on the defensive side of the ball. I’d say first you don’t succeed, try, try again.

We haven’t heard much of substance from Gary, but what he has said points to only to the offense.
do you -- or anyone in general -- think that if we had bigger faster stronger linemen then tipa wouldn't have been neutralized by playing out of position?
We had the horses to play a 3-4/3-3-5. What was done to Tipa by making him a DE was criminal.
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Post by aggies22 » December 3rd, 2019, 8:50 am

GUS wrote:
December 3rd, 2019, 8:49 am
When is the December signing day?
It starts on the 18th.



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Post by Chatman » December 3rd, 2019, 9:27 am

A lot of players nationwide heading to the transfer portal. Hopefully we can pick up a couple of hidden gems that can help immediately.

Tweet from Mcmurphy:

In last 24 hours, 67 players from 36 FBS schools entered NCAA Transfer Portal.

Players by league:

B1G 11 (5 teams)
SB 10 (1 team)
SEC 10 (7 teams)
Big 12 9 (5 teams)
AAC 8 (4 teams)
C-USA 5 (5 teams)
MAC 5 (3 teams)
ACC 4 (3 teams)
Pac-12 2 (1 team)
Ind 2 (1 team)
MW 1 (1 team)



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Post by AndroidAggie » December 3rd, 2019, 9:55 am

aggies22 wrote:
December 3rd, 2019, 8:50 am
We had the horses to play a 3-4/3-3-5. What was done to Tipa by making him a DE was criminal.
I'm so confused at why it happened

Dude lived in the backfield last year.



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Post by aggies22 » December 3rd, 2019, 10:08 am

Chatman wrote:
December 3rd, 2019, 9:27 am
A lot of players nationwide heading to the transfer portal. Hopefully we can pick up a couple of hidden gems that can help immediately.

Tweet from Mcmurphy:

In last 24 hours, 67 players from 36 FBS schools entered NCAA Transfer Portal.

Players by league:

B1G 11 (5 teams)
SB 10 (1 team)
SEC 10 (7 teams)
Big 12 9 (5 teams)
AAC 8 (4 teams)
C-USA 5 (5 teams)
MAC 5 (3 teams)
ACC 4 (3 teams)
Pac-12 2 (1 team)
Ind 2 (1 team)
MW 1 (1 team)
Coastal Carolina had 10 dudes enter yesterday.



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Post by NavyBlueAggie » December 3rd, 2019, 11:10 am

AndroidAggie wrote:
December 3rd, 2019, 9:55 am
aggies22 wrote:
December 3rd, 2019, 8:50 am
We had the horses to play a 3-4/3-3-5. What was done to Tipa by making him a DE was criminal.
I'm so confused at why it happened

Dude lived in the backfield last year.
I'd go with inept and blundering regarding Tipa and the defense in general. To take a defense, a very good defense that played in 2018 from a 3-4 stunting set and move to a 4-3 immobile foundation is a blistering indictment of our D C. The defense played a good deal in 2018 resulting from our hurry up offense, and still did very, very well. ENA threw that all away this season and I have no faith in his philosophies, abilities or true football intellect. That we struggled defensively in the second half most of our games this season is. Past time for a change...
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Post by USU78 » December 3rd, 2019, 11:10 am

aggies22 wrote:
December 3rd, 2019, 10:08 am
Chatman wrote:
December 3rd, 2019, 9:27 am
A lot of players nationwide heading to the transfer portal. Hopefully we can pick up a couple of hidden gems that can help immediately.

Tweet from Mcmurphy:

In last 24 hours, 67 players from 36 FBS schools entered NCAA Transfer Portal.

Players by league:

B1G 11 (5 teams)
SB 10 (1 team)
SEC 10 (7 teams)
Big 12 9 (5 teams)
AAC 8 (4 teams)
C-USA 5 (5 teams)
MAC 5 (3 teams)
ACC 4 (3 teams)
Pac-12 2 (1 team)
Ind 2 (1 team)
MW 1 (1 team)
Coastal Carolina had 10 dudes enter yesterday.
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhmmmkay.


You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

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Post by NavyBlueAggie » December 3rd, 2019, 11:49 am

Sl7vk wrote:
December 2nd, 2019, 9:27 pm
It's super interesting what we are building on our O-line for the future.
Hunter Hill last year, and now some solid guys this year. 247 has Alex Harrison warmer to USU.
Could really be a smash mouth line 3-4 years from now that is dominating in the run game.
Time is not our friend with the "O" linemen. I believe we have an excellent "O" line coach in T J Woods and with this last season his offensive linemen had their baptism of fire.... Next season must be the year as they are all we now have.



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Post by AgMan21 » December 3rd, 2019, 5:04 pm

aggies22 wrote:
December 3rd, 2019, 8:50 am
GUS wrote:
December 3rd, 2019, 8:49 am
When is the December signing day?
It starts on the 18th.
What are you thoughts, 22, on the offers that have gone out today? Any surprises? Any of those that you think would be big commits/immediate impacts on the team?



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Post by Blitz79 » December 3rd, 2019, 5:21 pm

Not only Tipa but Justus Te'i on the other side.



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Post by dyedblue » December 3rd, 2019, 6:06 pm

AndroidAggie wrote:
dyedblue wrote:
December 3rd, 2019, 6:48 am
I don’t think we’ll see a change in philosophy on the defensive side of the ball. I’d say first you don’t succeed, try, try again.

We haven’t heard much of substance from Gary, but what he has said points to only to the offense.
do you -- or anyone in general -- think that if we had bigger faster stronger linemen then tipa wouldn't have been neutralized by playing out of position?
No. Putting Tipa a yard away from guys that are 300+ pounds was the problem. Even if you had Haloti Ngata and Star Lotuleilei Tipa would have remained neutered. I’m not a coach or an expert so someone could convince me otherwise.


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Post by NavyBlueAggie » December 3rd, 2019, 7:51 pm

aggies22 wrote:
December 2nd, 2019, 6:52 pm
Bryson Taukeiaho will be a DE.
Could you enlighten me/others about this prospect please. Size, position, current institution, how much in demand he is and other schools offers? Thank you 22.



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Post by aggies22 » December 3rd, 2019, 8:00 pm

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December 3rd, 2019, 7:51 pm
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Bryson Taukeiaho will be a DE.
Could you enlighten me/others about this prospect please. Size, position, current institution, how much in demand he is and other schools offers? Thank you 22.
Bryson is 6'4" 220 and goes to Provo High. We are his first offer. I think he might be a possible grayshirt candidate.



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Post by aggies22 » December 3rd, 2019, 9:56 pm

AgMan21 wrote:
December 3rd, 2019, 5:04 pm
aggies22 wrote:
December 3rd, 2019, 8:50 am
GUS wrote:
December 3rd, 2019, 8:49 am
When is the December signing day?
It starts on the 18th.
What are you thoughts, 22, on the offers that have gone out today? Any surprises? Any of those that you think would be big commits/immediate impacts on the team?
Of the offers that went out recently, obviously the big one is 3* DE Sam Moala. He would likely compete for playing time immediately. If they choose to commit, DE Bryson Taukeiaho is possibly a grayshirt candidate and OL Justice Ena is a sign and send.
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Post by NavyBlueAggie » December 3rd, 2019, 10:03 pm

aggies22 wrote:
December 3rd, 2019, 8:00 pm
NavyBlueAggie wrote:
December 3rd, 2019, 7:51 pm
aggies22 wrote:
December 2nd, 2019, 6:52 pm
Bryson Taukeiaho will be a DE.
Could you enlighten me/others about this prospect please. Size, position, current institution, how much in demand he is and other schools offers? Thank you 22.
Bryson is 6'4" 220 and goes to Provo High. We are his first offer. I think he might be a possible grayshirt candidate.


Thank you 22.... always a source of real information. Much appreciated input
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Post by Roy McAvoy » December 4th, 2019, 8:35 am

aggies22 wrote:
December 3rd, 2019, 8:00 pm
NavyBlueAggie wrote:
December 3rd, 2019, 7:51 pm
aggies22 wrote:
December 2nd, 2019, 6:52 pm
Bryson Taukeiaho will be a DE.
Could you enlighten me/others about this prospect please. Size, position, current institution, how much in demand he is and other schools offers? Thank you 22.
Bryson is 6'4" 220 and goes to Provo High. We are his first offer. I think he might be a possible grayshirt candidate.
I thought the same thing. He has to be a grayshirt offer. Ena is also likely a mission kid, correct?



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Post by aggies22 » December 4th, 2019, 9:17 am

Roy McAvoy wrote:
December 4th, 2019, 8:35 am
aggies22 wrote:
December 3rd, 2019, 8:00 pm
NavyBlueAggie wrote:
December 3rd, 2019, 7:51 pm
aggies22 wrote:
December 2nd, 2019, 6:52 pm
Bryson Taukeiaho will be a DE.
Could you enlighten me/others about this prospect please. Size, position, current institution, how much in demand he is and other schools offers? Thank you 22.
Bryson is 6'4" 220 and goes to Provo High. We are his first offer. I think he might be a possible grayshirt candidate.
I thought the same thing. He has to be a grayshirt offer. Ena is also likely a mission kid, correct?
That is correct.



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Post by hickaggie » December 4th, 2019, 11:29 am

dyedblue wrote:
December 3rd, 2019, 6:06 pm
AndroidAggie wrote:
dyedblue wrote:
December 3rd, 2019, 6:48 am
I don’t think we’ll see a change in philosophy on the defensive side of the ball. I’d say first you don’t succeed, try, try again.

We haven’t heard much of substance from Gary, but what he has said points to only to the offense.
do you -- or anyone in general -- think that if we had bigger faster stronger linemen then tipa wouldn't have been neutralized by playing out of position?
No. Putting Tipa a yard away from guys that are 300+ pounds was the problem. Even if you had Haloti Ngata and Star Lotuleilei Tipa would have remained neutered. I’m not a coach or an expert so someone could convince me otherwise.


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Yes, you've hit it on the head with Tipa. He's a finesse rusher. In the 4 man front he has to take and squeeze the tackle or our LBs get there asses blown up on the inside run. He also has to maintain contain with that squeeze. As soon as he reads pass he's already making contact with a tackle who is going to try and hold him close limiting his moves and at times trapping him inside for contain. Tipa tried to adjust at times by going more upfield with his first steps but that really leaves the ILBs hanging on anything inside and the reduced angle allows the tackle to move back with him and force him outside the pocket deep.

He still made some plays with his athleticism but it really limited his skill set as he's not anything close to the type of player who has the strength and leverage to play a true 4 man front end. He was a little more effective on passing downs later in the year when he could step out or ditch his 3 point stance.

Tei was a bit better but still he was playing out of position IMO. The best true end was actually Nick Henninger IMO.



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