Calhoun and the “7 year rule”

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Calhoun and the “7 year rule”

Post by Imakeitrain » October 22nd, 2019, 6:09 pm

Context: during the afa weekly interview Calhoun talked about Usu for only about a minute and spent half of it complaining about missions with a very backhanded compliment.


1. It’s a completely moot point for him to bring this up especially since the age change rule. You can do almost anything after high school except start college or be paid to play the sport you are going to play in college and still be eligible. You can play professional baseball right after high school, then come back and play college football. (You can also join the Air Force).

2. Air Force has significantly more benefits that no other non-service academy gets. They can pay their athletes and everyone is already on scholarship.

3. It’s a really sketchy thing that someone who is representing the DoD (govt) can act so hostile on a basis of religious practice - especially given the first point I made.

4. He is wrong that missions make people a better football player. Since we became a dominant team very few of our elite players were mission guys. Fackrell and Dax are more the exception than the rule.

However we have had several solid contributors that were RMs

5. We don’t have a monopoly on elite LDS talent and neither does BYU or Utah. Several schools recruit and win elite LDS talent.

Calhoun is truly awful
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Re: Calhoun and the “7 year rule”

Post by aggies22 » October 22nd, 2019, 6:21 pm

Kyler Fackrell didn't go on a mission. But I do like your post. Good points all around.



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Re: Calhoun and the “7 year rule”

Post by frankiesaysrelax » October 22nd, 2019, 6:24 pm

This was posted over in MWC forum the other day. Howdy Doody is just not a likable dude, is he?

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Re: Calhoun and the “7 year rule”

Post by Imakeitrain » October 22nd, 2019, 6:36 pm

aggies22 wrote:
October 22nd, 2019, 6:21 pm
Kyler Fackrell didn't go on a mission. But I do like your post. Good points all around.
That’s right he did construction or something. Which still violates “7 year rule”. He was late to school.



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Re: Calhoun and the “7 year rule”

Post by ineptimusprime » October 22nd, 2019, 6:47 pm

One of our service academies is led by a whiny baby. SAD.
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Re: Calhoun and the “7 year rule”

Post by sambonethegreat » October 22nd, 2019, 7:15 pm

I can’t stand Calhoun. Easily the biggest jerk in the conference


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Re: Calhoun and the “7 year rule”

Post by USUMAE » October 22nd, 2019, 7:23 pm

Cry me a river.

The mission is an advantage? Really? Then why hasn't the biggest benefactor of that advantage beaten their main rival for nearly a decade? Like with most things in life I think there are pros and cons and in the case of the mission I think it ends up being a wash. A good coach might be able to mitigate a lot of that by being able to forecast a program's needs 3 years from now.

All schools have their recruiting advantages and disadvantages. AFA basically gets every athlete on scholarship, but they likely get no one that has NFL ambitions. We seem to do fairly well at finding diamonds in the rough, but we are a program in a fairly remote and cold place that is not the most attractive place for the typical college athlete.

At the end of the day, we all must do the best we can with the cards that our dealt us. One thing I like about the Mountain West as a conference is that as a whole we are fairly balanced.

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Re: Calhoun and the “7 year rule”

Post by Sl7vk » October 22nd, 2019, 7:58 pm

Calhoun is a certified (I can't express myself without swearing) clown. Not just because of these comments either.
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Re: Calhoun and the “7 year rule”

Post by Aggie84025 » October 22nd, 2019, 8:25 pm

Easily the coach I dislike the most in the conference. Kind of sad considering I have high respect for what the air force academy does. I want the aggies to take it them on Saturday, although it will be tough as they have a great team.
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Re: Calhoun and the “7 year rule”

Post by aggiesdotcom » October 22nd, 2019, 8:43 pm

If it is such an advantage then AFA should send their players away for 2 years somewhere where they will eat poorly, not exercise regularly, and not play any organized football at all.



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Re: Calhoun and the “7 year rule”

Post by Sl7vk » October 22nd, 2019, 8:59 pm

Instead of 7 year rules, we should talk about bad toupee rules.

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Re: Calhoun and the “7 year rule”

Post by treesap32 » October 22nd, 2019, 9:28 pm

This guy is insufferable.
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Re: Calhoun and the “7 year rule”

Post by LKGates » October 22nd, 2019, 9:55 pm

Sl7vk wrote:
October 22nd, 2019, 8:59 pm
Instead of 7 year rules, we should talk about bad toupee rules.

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Why does that man have a wet cat laying on his head?


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Re: Calhoun and the “7 year rule”

Post by Aggie_CEE » October 22nd, 2019, 10:07 pm

Link to the press conference?



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Re: Calhoun and the “7 year rule”

Post by GameFAQSAggie » October 22nd, 2019, 10:16 pm

The funny thing is, of all schools, you would think a service academy coach could build themselves up by talking about the disadvantages they overcome without tearing down others for imaginary advantages.

And really, not that many of our players are the older RMs like Calhoun would indicate. Only one of the six players who scored a touchdown for us against them last year was an older RM, and none of the top 14 tacklers from the game against them last year are. Some of our players that are RMs with this "advantage" struggle to beat out the younger guys for time.



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Re: Calhoun and the “7 year rule”

Post by bluegrouse » October 22nd, 2019, 10:22 pm

Can’t stand that guy. Such a poor representative for the stellar Air Force Academy.



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Re: Calhoun and the “7 year rule”

Post by AndroidAggie » October 23rd, 2019, 6:37 am

MWCFAN12 wrote:
October 22nd, 2019, 9:02 pm
https://gazette.com/news/local/air-forc ... a14bd.html

Seems like a great guy
Bwahahahahahahahahaha what an interview



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Re: Calhoun and the “7 year rule”

Post by Aggie_CEE » October 23rd, 2019, 8:25 am

Found one:

https://goairforcefalcons.com/news/2019 ... -game.aspx

Wow, he really thinks we have some advantage as being one of the "oldest teams" in the nation.



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Re: Calhoun and the “7 year rule”

Post by Roy McAvoy » October 23rd, 2019, 8:48 am

I just checked. I believe we have 2 players total in the entire two deep roster that served missions. Caden Andersen and Jacoby Wildman.

Calhoun is making excuses about us having two players (that are both backups) that served missions haha.
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Re: Calhoun and the “7 year rule”

Post by crazywookie » October 23rd, 2019, 9:00 am

AndroidAggie wrote:
October 23rd, 2019, 6:37 am
MWCFAN12 wrote:
October 22nd, 2019, 9:02 pm
https://gazette.com/news/local/air-forc ... a14bd.html

Seems like a great guy
Bwahahahahahahahahaha what an interview
It was nice of him to show up.


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Re: Calhoun and the “7 year rule”

Post by NVAggie » October 23rd, 2019, 9:33 am

I never have liked that guy. Terrible representative of AFA.



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Re: Calhoun and the “7 year rule”

Post by slcagg » October 23rd, 2019, 9:35 am

Looks like some of their fans aren’t impressed by him either.

https://247sports.com/college/air-force ... 137378471/



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Re: Calhoun and the “7 year rule”

Post by Sl7vk » October 23rd, 2019, 9:51 am

slcagg wrote:
October 23rd, 2019, 9:35 am
Looks like some of their fans aren’t impressed by him either.

https://247sports.com/college/air-force ... 137378471/

I don’t think any of their fans are impressed with him. Service Academy guys are anything but stupid.



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Re: Calhoun and the “7 year rule”

Post by AggiesForever » October 23rd, 2019, 10:02 am

Now he's saying the Air Force academy should leave the Mountain West and become, basically, the Army or Navy of the west.

https://mwwire.com/2019/10/14/could-air ... tain-west/

What a dick.



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Re: Calhoun and the “7 year rule”

Post by USU78 » October 23rd, 2019, 10:07 am

AggiesForever wrote:
October 23rd, 2019, 10:02 am
Now he's saying the Air Force academy should leave the Mountain West and become, basically, the Army or Navy of the west.

https://mwwire.com/2019/10/14/could-air ... tain-west/

What a dick.
Some are born dicks. Others have dicktitude forced upon them. Yet others have aspired to and acquired dicktitude. Calhoun is a bigger dick than them all.


You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

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Re: Calhoun and the “7 year rule”

Post by MWCFAN12 » October 23rd, 2019, 10:41 am

AggiesForever wrote:
October 23rd, 2019, 10:02 am
Now he's saying the Air Force academy should leave the Mountain West and become, basically, the Army or Navy of the west.

https://mwwire.com/2019/10/14/could-air ... tain-west/

What a dick.
This happened the week they played Fresno. And there was a lot of talk about the California Schools starting to pay players. I think his comments have a lot to do with that.



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Re: Calhoun and the “7 year rule”

Post by AggieUprising50 » October 23rd, 2019, 10:50 am

I agree that having older players helps. Especially when it comes to linemen. a 24 year old's body is going to be more developed than a 22 Year old.

Yet, unless I'm mistaken, nothing is stopping these other schools from recruiting missionaries and benefiting from the older players.

The problem is they don't because they don't want to complicate their recruiting by holding scholarships. Neither do they don't want to put in the work and energy getting players back into football shape after not playing for two years. They don't want to take that risk on a player who wants to serve a mission

We're willing to do that at Utah State, so we should be able to reap the benefits of our RM pipeline without the bickering of other teams.
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Re: Calhoun and the “7 year rule”

Post by Aggie19 » October 23rd, 2019, 11:01 am

AggieUprising50 wrote:
October 23rd, 2019, 10:50 am
I agree that having older players helps. Especially when it comes to linemen. a 24 year old's body is going to be more developed than a 22 Year old.

Yet, unless I'm mistaken, nothing is stopping these other schools from recruiting missionaries and benefiting from the older players.

The problem is they don't because they don't want to complicate their recruiting by holding scholarships. Neither do they don't want to put in the work and energy getting players back into football shape after not playing for two years. They don't want to take that risk on a player who wants to serve a mission

We're willing to do that at Utah State, so we should be able to reap the benefits of our RM pipeline without the bickering of other teams.
100% agree. It's not like we're breaking the rules here, we've got the same rules as everyone else. It always irritates me that they act like schools are cheating with mission kids on their rosters. Idiots.


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Re: Calhoun and the “7 year rule”

Post by stu » October 23rd, 2019, 12:59 pm

Not to mention this is coming from the leader of an organization who regular sends athletes to prep school for a year prior to joining the academy, thus delaying the start of their athletic career and guaranteeing an older group of athletes who are training the entire year they are at the prep school. Prep school creates a far greater athletic advantage than missions do.



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Re: Calhoun and the “7 year rule”

Post by WAaggieFan » October 23rd, 2019, 8:23 pm

Dave Christensen best expressed everyone’s consensus on Calhoun.... Seems like YouTube may have been scrubbed though. But I’m sure someone out there is better with interweb video than I am.


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Re: Calhoun and the “7 year rule”

Post by frankiesaysrelax » October 23rd, 2019, 8:30 pm

WAaggieFan wrote:
October 23rd, 2019, 8:23 pm
Dave Christensen best expressed everyone’s consensus on Calhoun.... Seems like YouTube may have been scrubbed though. But I’m sure someone out there is better with interweb video than I am.


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I posted that video earlier in this thread. The video was on a deadspin link.



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Re: Calhoun and the “7 year rule”

Post by WAaggieFan » October 23rd, 2019, 8:35 pm

frankiesaysrelax wrote:
WAaggieFan wrote:
October 23rd, 2019, 8:23 pm
Dave Christensen best expressed everyone’s consensus on Calhoun.... Seems like YouTube may have been scrubbed though. But I’m sure someone out there is better with interweb video than I am.


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I posted that video earlier in this thread. The video was on a deadspin link.
Hah! Guess I should follow links....


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