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I hope the $1.5 million was worth it...
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Fair2004AG wrote: ↑October 5th, 2019, 1:18 pmShould we shut down the message board? Isn't giving opinions on Aggie sports the whole point of this place?Naked Bull Rider wrote: ↑October 5th, 2019, 1:13 pmDon’t like it? Then say something intelligent. College schedules fluctuate. You don’t always get all your non-conference matchups in the first few weeks. You know our program still needs an annual money game.KissMyAg wrote: ↑October 5th, 2019, 1:03 pmGood one bro...
If you don’t like it— file a complaint with the athletic department instead of crying on the board that an AD that did his job and got us this $ should be fired. Get real.
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When LSU was scheduled I could safely say they were likely going to be a top 10 program. I can say the same for Alabama right now as I look a couple years down the road.Naked Bull Rider wrote: ↑October 5th, 2019, 1:21 pmDon’t schedule a Top 10 team?? These games are scheduled YEARS in advance. You don’t know what the state of either program will be in when the game is actually played. I bet you weren’t pissing and moaning when we went to Auburn and were one failed special teams play away from beating the defending national champions.AgTime wrote: ↑October 5th, 2019, 12:53 pm1. Don’t schedule top 10 programs. Choose from the other ~55 P5 schools out there.GordoAggie wrote: ↑October 5th, 2019, 12:43 pmFans donating more $$ and we dont have to play these games......
2. Don’t schedule a money game later than week 1 or 2.
3. Don’t schedule to play at Wake and LSU in the same season.
Can’t speak for the timing of this game, but when tiny USU gets a 1.5 million dollar offer to pay ball, you take it.
We had no chance in this game, and “tiny USU” is one of the better non-p5 programs around of late. The game is in October, no less. Prior to the injury run of the past few weeks, I would have felt comfortable playing almost anyone in the country, but we are not and cannot be at the level of a team like this. Scheduling at LSU and at Alabama is more about Hartwell’s southern roots than who is available to play.
Andersen was pissed about having this game on the schedule and so am I. You’re damn right we should schedule better (more intelligently), and not sign up for playing the who’s who of the SEC whenever they happen to have an open date. It’s suicide.
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When LSU was scheduled I could safely say they were likely going to be a top 10 program. I can say the same for Alabama right now as I look a couple years down the road. We all know who the preeminent college football programs are year in and year out.Naked Bull Rider wrote: ↑October 5th, 2019, 1:21 pmDon’t schedule a Top 10 team?? These games are scheduled YEARS in advance. You don’t know what the state of either program will be in when the game is actually played. I bet you weren’t pissing and moaning when we went to Auburn and were one failed special teams play away from beating the defending national champions.AgTime wrote: ↑October 5th, 2019, 12:53 pm1. Don’t schedule top 10 programs. Choose from the other ~55 P5 schools out there.GordoAggie wrote: ↑October 5th, 2019, 12:43 pmFans donating more $$ and we dont have to play these games......
2. Don’t schedule a money game later than week 1 or 2.
3. Don’t schedule to play at Wake and LSU in the same season.
Can’t speak for the timing of this game, but when tiny USU gets a 1.5 million dollar offer to pay ball, you take it.
We had no chance in this game, and “tiny USU” is one of the better non-p5 programs around of late. The game is in October, no less. Prior to the injury run of the past few weeks, I would have felt comfortable playing almost anyone in the country, but we are not and cannot be at the level of a team like this. Scheduling at LSU and at Alabama is more about Hartwell’s southern roots than who is available to play.
Andersen was pissed about having this game on the schedule and so am I. You’re damn right we should schedule better (more intelligently), and not sign up for playing the who’s who of the SEC whenever they happen to have an open date. It’s suicide.
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Give me a break. Play the game. Injuries can happen anytime! We make a couple of plays and it's a different game. Mariner got injured catching the ball. How many injuries did we have vs stoneybrook? Go Aggies!
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These games are tough, but something to consider for comparison and a reason why we'll keep doing it. In 2017, LSUs football revenue was around $86 million, including almost $9 million in contributions. Utah state's in 2017, around $10 million. We're going to have to keep scheduling these games to try to be competitive on the rest of the schedule. Boise in 2017 had about double our revenue and they're our main rivals in the MW. If we're going to continue to grow, we have to have the revenue or one of y'all (I hope it's me) needs to win the lotto and pony up a bunch of coin for the Aggies.
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I hope the $1.5 million was worth it...
I do agree that scheduling teams like Bama and LSU are suicide. There’s a reason UCF and Boise State have gone undefeated in recent years. They schedule winnable P5 games.
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We are tiny. Tiny market, tiny revenues, tiny budget. I love my Alma mater and I’m proud we’ve been a top tier G5 team a few times in the last decade. But I know we are not in a position to be turning down the $1.5 million offers from LSU and the $2 million offers from Alabama.AgTime wrote: ↑October 5th, 2019, 1:41 pmWhen LSU was scheduled I could safely say they were likely going to be a top 10 program. I can say the same for Alabama right now as I look a couple years down the road. We all know who the preeminent college football programs are year in and year out.Naked Bull Rider wrote: ↑October 5th, 2019, 1:21 pmDon’t schedule a Top 10 team?? These games are scheduled YEARS in advance. You don’t know what the state of either program will be in when the game is actually played. I bet you weren’t pissing and moaning when we went to Auburn and were one failed special teams play away from beating the defending national champions.AgTime wrote: ↑October 5th, 2019, 12:53 pm1. Don’t schedule top 10 programs. Choose from the other ~55 P5 schools out there.GordoAggie wrote: ↑October 5th, 2019, 12:43 pmFans donating more $$ and we dont have to play these games......
2. Don’t schedule a money game later than week 1 or 2.
3. Don’t schedule to play at Wake and LSU in the same season.
Can’t speak for the timing of this game, but when tiny USU gets a 1.5 million dollar offer to pay ball, you take it.
We had no chance in this game, and “tiny USU” is one of the better non-p5 programs around of late. The game is in October, no less. Prior to the injury run of the past few weeks, I would have felt comfortable playing almost anyone in the country, but we are not and cannot be at the level of a team like this. Scheduling at LSU and at Alabama is more about Hartwell’s southern roots than who is available to play.
Andersen was pissed about having this game on the schedule and so am I. You’re damn right we should schedule better (more intelligently), and not sign up for playing the who’s who of the SEC whenever they happen to have an open date. It’s suicide.
If you want to continue to watch this team play well, get new facilities, have players enjoy the shine when new unis come through, then you have to embrace the money games. They aren’t going away.
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Re: I hope the $1.5 million was worth it...
Injuries happen in football but historically we’ve suffered more injuries, and more serious injuries playing SEC teams and we just don’t have the depth to sustain success when we lose starters.
We’re going to spend 500k of our 1.5 mil on the healthcare of these injured players. I’d rather cut some non revenue sports and play teams like Purdue and Iowa State. Do money games have to equate to body bag games? Our MW brethren seem to disagree and have scheduled for more possible success.
We’re going to spend 500k of our 1.5 mil on the healthcare of these injured players. I’d rather cut some non revenue sports and play teams like Purdue and Iowa State. Do money games have to equate to body bag games? Our MW brethren seem to disagree and have scheduled for more possible success.
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I thought y'all linebacker and Dbs played good. O line is good.. This was the worst our pass game has looked all year. Burrow was off and that was yalls doing.
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I think y'all really could use one of our rbs though
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Had one go down last week and the back up was dinged up today. I would gladly accept any of your RBs.
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Could you pull some strings for us and get one into the Portal for next season?
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I hope the $1.5 million was worth it...
How good was Florida State when Boise scheduled them?ThunderAggie wrote:I do agree that scheduling teams like Bama and LSU are suicide. There’s a reason UCF and Boise State have gone undefeated in recent years. They schedule winnable P5 games.
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They have scheduled well and are not afraid to play anytime anywhere.
If GA was indeed “pissed” about this game then he needs to grow a pair. We should be a fringe top 25 team this year and while I didn’t expect to win this game I thought we’d put a couple of scores on them and provide a little more resistance than the grass under LSU’s feet.
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I guarantee when BSU scheduled Florida State in Tallahassee, it was most definitely not seen as a "winnable" game.ThunderAggie wrote: ↑October 5th, 2019, 1:53 pmI do agree that scheduling teams like Bama and LSU are suicide. There’s a reason UCF and Boise State have gone undefeated in recent years. They schedule winnable P5 games.
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Let’s just drop down to division 3 or better yet move to a flag football league.
Less injuries and embarrassment
Less injuries and embarrassment
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I think this is a relevant discussion to be had. Let's examine what a possible recruiting visit might look like.
Player's Mom: please promise me you won't make my son play against bigger or faster players; or teams that are really really good.
Coach: You have my word. In fact, we were scheduled to play at LSU in 2019. But we cancelled. As you are aware, LSU has a very storied college football tradition and initially it was viewed as a great opportunity to showcase our team in the Southeast for recruiting purposes, of course it is a big money game for us, and it would be a great opportunity for a college player at a mid-major MWC school to play a game in fabled "Death Valley". However, our fanbase was worried about players getting hurt so we are cancelling this game and the upcoming game against Alabama which would have been another great experience. We don't want to put additional stress on our players and will replace these games with Southern Utah and Weber State. They don't seem to worry about playing teams with bigger or faster players. Kind of crazy if you ask me, but I guess they aren't able to get HS teams to play them.
Mom: Great. Can my son take a nap?
Coach: Yes, we encourage naps at practice and during games. We even have a "hangnail" protocol every bit as rigorous as the concussion protocol; this was in response to the fanbase concerns after they saw a player with a bandaged finger and launched an investigation against the program.
Mom: I meant, can he take a nap now?
Coach: Of course. Qhen your son wakes up from his nap, have him sign the offer. He can show up on campus whenever he wants. Even after the season begins. We would hate for him to get hurt in practice.
Player's Mom: please promise me you won't make my son play against bigger or faster players; or teams that are really really good.
Coach: You have my word. In fact, we were scheduled to play at LSU in 2019. But we cancelled. As you are aware, LSU has a very storied college football tradition and initially it was viewed as a great opportunity to showcase our team in the Southeast for recruiting purposes, of course it is a big money game for us, and it would be a great opportunity for a college player at a mid-major MWC school to play a game in fabled "Death Valley". However, our fanbase was worried about players getting hurt so we are cancelling this game and the upcoming game against Alabama which would have been another great experience. We don't want to put additional stress on our players and will replace these games with Southern Utah and Weber State. They don't seem to worry about playing teams with bigger or faster players. Kind of crazy if you ask me, but I guess they aren't able to get HS teams to play them.
Mom: Great. Can my son take a nap?
Coach: Yes, we encourage naps at practice and during games. We even have a "hangnail" protocol every bit as rigorous as the concussion protocol; this was in response to the fanbase concerns after they saw a player with a bandaged finger and launched an investigation against the program.
Mom: I meant, can he take a nap now?
Coach: Of course. Qhen your son wakes up from his nap, have him sign the offer. He can show up on campus whenever he wants. Even after the season begins. We would hate for him to get hurt in practice.
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The whole we shouldn't play these games argument is laughable. 100% play these games as often as we can.
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Re: I hope the $1.5 million was worth it...
I don’t think anybody is arguing that point. I think many of us wish it was an Arkansas or Nebraska, even Michigan, money game. It doesn’t and shouldn’t be an LSU or Alabama.Naked Bull Rider wrote:We are tiny. Tiny market, tiny revenues, tiny budget. I love my Alma mater and I’m proud we’ve been a top tier G5 team a few times in the last decade. But I know we are not in a position to be turning down the $1.5 million offers from LSU and the $2 million offers from Alabama.AgTime wrote: ↑October 5th, 2019, 1:41 pmWhen LSU was scheduled I could safely say they were likely going to be a top 10 program. I can say the same for Alabama right now as I look a couple years down the road. We all know who the preeminent college football programs are year in and year out.Naked Bull Rider wrote: ↑October 5th, 2019, 1:21 pmDon’t schedule a Top 10 team?? These games are scheduled YEARS in advance. You don’t know what the state of either program will be in when the game is actually played. I bet you weren’t pissing and moaning when we went to Auburn and were one failed special teams play away from beating the defending national champions.AgTime wrote: ↑October 5th, 2019, 12:53 pm1. Don’t schedule top 10 programs. Choose from the other ~55 P5 schools out there.GordoAggie wrote: ↑October 5th, 2019, 12:43 pmFans donating more $$ and we dont have to play these games......
2. Don’t schedule a money game later than week 1 or 2.
3. Don’t schedule to play at Wake and LSU in the same season.
Can’t speak for the timing of this game, but when tiny USU gets a 1.5 million dollar offer to pay ball, you take it.
We had no chance in this game, and “tiny USU” is one of the better non-p5 programs around of late. The game is in October, no less. Prior to the injury run of the past few weeks, I would have felt comfortable playing almost anyone in the country, but we are not and cannot be at the level of a team like this. Scheduling at LSU and at Alabama is more about Hartwell’s southern roots than who is available to play.
Andersen was pissed about having this game on the schedule and so am I. You’re damn right we should schedule better (more intelligently), and not sign up for playing the who’s who of the SEC whenever they happen to have an open date. It’s suicide.
If you want to continue to watch this team play well, get new facilities, have players enjoy the shine when new unis come through, then you have to embrace the money games. They aren’t going away.
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Re: I hope the $1.5 million was worth it...
I'll go a step further. Not only should we not schedule games like this, we shouldn't schedule any games. Football is dangerous!
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There’s a reason why all of these injuries happened against LSU and not other teams.brownjeans wrote: ↑October 5th, 2019, 4:51 pmI'll go a step further. Not only should we not schedule games like this, we shouldn't schedule any games. Football is dangerous!
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Re: I hope the $1.5 million was worth it...
But injuries do happen against other teams. Sometimes very serious ones. Sometimes many injuries. Better to not play.Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑October 5th, 2019, 4:53 pmThere’s a reason why all of these injuries happened against LSU and not other teams.brownjeans wrote: ↑October 5th, 2019, 4:51 pmI'll go a step further. Not only should we not schedule games like this, we shouldn't schedule any games. Football is dangerous!
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Re: I hope the $1.5 million was worth it...
We should play anyone but only if they are home/home series. These away only matchups suck.
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We have the most fair weather fans on planet earth. Thanks Naked Bull for a bit of reality.
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None of the fans on this board are fair weather fans. These are the people who care the most. We are fanatics after all.Agezzz wrote: ↑October 5th, 2019, 4:59 pmWe have the most fair weather fans on planet earth. Thanks Naked Bull for a bit of reality.
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Alabama is in the midst of a dynasty, but LSU isn't. They had a coaching change recently and lost to Troy at home two years ago. 8-5, 9-3, 8-4, 9-4, 10-3 are their last 5 seasons. Good and they have a lot of talent, but hardly some juggernaut we should avoid at all costs when it comes to scheduling a money game.AgTime wrote: ↑October 5th, 2019, 1:40 pmWhen LSU was scheduled I could safely say they were likely going to be a top 10 program. I can say the same for Alabama right now as I look a couple years down the road.Naked Bull Rider wrote: ↑October 5th, 2019, 1:21 pmDon’t schedule a Top 10 team?? These games are scheduled YEARS in advance. You don’t know what the state of either program will be in when the game is actually played. I bet you weren’t pissing and moaning when we went to Auburn and were one failed special teams play away from beating the defending national champions.AgTime wrote: ↑October 5th, 2019, 12:53 pm1. Don’t schedule top 10 programs. Choose from the other ~55 P5 schools out there.GordoAggie wrote: ↑October 5th, 2019, 12:43 pmFans donating more $$ and we dont have to play these games......
2. Don’t schedule a money game later than week 1 or 2.
3. Don’t schedule to play at Wake and LSU in the same season.
Can’t speak for the timing of this game, but when tiny USU gets a 1.5 million dollar offer to pay ball, you take it.
We had no chance in this game, and “tiny USU” is one of the better non-p5 programs around of late. The game is in October, no less. Prior to the injury run of the past few weeks, I would have felt comfortable playing almost anyone in the country, but we are not and cannot be at the level of a team like this. Scheduling at LSU and at Alabama is more about Hartwell’s southern roots than who is available to play.
Andersen was pissed about having this game on the schedule and so am I. You’re damn right we should schedule better (more intelligently), and not sign up for playing the who’s who of the SEC whenever they happen to have an open date. It’s suicide.
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Florida State has won a national championship more recently than LSU and had a 29 game win streak a few years and had a streak of 5 straight NY6 Bowls. To go with a Heisman winner and another QB that was a first round pick. They have been down the last few years, but they have had much more recent success than lsu.ThunderAggie wrote: ↑October 5th, 2019, 1:53 pmI do agree that scheduling teams like Bama and LSU are suicide. There’s a reason UCF and Boise State have gone undefeated in recent years. They schedule winnable P5 games.
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I feel like games that aren’t played in the heat of satan’s buttcrack are more winnable for starters.Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑October 5th, 2019, 6:00 pmFlorida State has won a national championship more recently than LSU and had a 29 game win streak a few years and had a streak of 5 straight NY6 Bowls. To go with a Heisman winner and another QB that was a first round pick. They have been down the last few years, but they have had much more recent success than lsu.ThunderAggie wrote: ↑October 5th, 2019, 1:53 pmI do agree that scheduling teams like Bama and LSU are suicide. There’s a reason UCF and Boise State have gone undefeated in recent years. They schedule winnable P5 games.
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Nope. Florida State has had much more recent high level success than LSU. Even two years ago when they started trending down they were a preseason top 5 team. Boise has some good wins. They beat a 10 win Georgia team and an 11 win Va Tech team when Va Tech was a prime program. It is what it is.FloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑October 5th, 2019, 2:38 pmI guarantee when BSU scheduled Florida State in Tallahassee, it was most definitely not seen as a "winnable" game.ThunderAggie wrote: ↑October 5th, 2019, 1:53 pmI do agree that scheduling teams like Bama and LSU are suicide. There’s a reason UCF and Boise State have gone undefeated in recent years. They schedule winnable P5 games.
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The problem is you don't know how good a team will be when you play them. Alabama is a fair bet to be great in 2022. They have been rolling for the last decade and it is a safe assumption that will continue. LSU has not. Like I said in an earlier post they haven't been elite in a while. If we schedule Nebraska tomorrow, well in 2026 or whenever we play them they might be a top 5 team like they were in the 90's. Michigan was a preseason top 5 team this year. For all the crap Harbaugh gets, he has won 10 games three of the last 4 years. That is better than what LSU has done over the last 4 years. Next year we play at Washington. There is a chance that will be a top 10 team if not higher if Eason comes back.2004AG wrote: ↑October 5th, 2019, 2:56 pmI don’t think anybody is arguing that point. I think many of us wish it was an Arkansas or Nebraska, even Michigan, money game. It doesn’t and shouldn’t be an LSU or Alabama.Naked Bull Rider wrote:We are tiny. Tiny market, tiny revenues, tiny budget. I love my Alma mater and I’m proud we’ve been a top tier G5 team a few times in the last decade. But I know we are not in a position to be turning down the $1.5 million offers from LSU and the $2 million offers from Alabama.AgTime wrote: ↑October 5th, 2019, 1:41 pmWhen LSU was scheduled I could safely say they were likely going to be a top 10 program. I can say the same for Alabama right now as I look a couple years down the road. We all know who the preeminent college football programs are year in and year out.Naked Bull Rider wrote: ↑October 5th, 2019, 1:21 pmDon’t schedule a Top 10 team?? These games are scheduled YEARS in advance. You don’t know what the state of either program will be in when the game is actually played. I bet you weren’t pissing and moaning when we went to Auburn and were one failed special teams play away from beating the defending national champions.AgTime wrote: ↑October 5th, 2019, 12:53 pm1. Don’t schedule top 10 programs. Choose from the other ~55 P5 schools out there.GordoAggie wrote: ↑October 5th, 2019, 12:43 pmFans donating more $$ and we dont have to play these games......
2. Don’t schedule a money game later than week 1 or 2.
3. Don’t schedule to play at Wake and LSU in the same season.
Can’t speak for the timing of this game, but when tiny USU gets a 1.5 million dollar offer to pay ball, you take it.
We had no chance in this game, and “tiny USU” is one of the better non-p5 programs around of late. The game is in October, no less. Prior to the injury run of the past few weeks, I would have felt comfortable playing almost anyone in the country, but we are not and cannot be at the level of a team like this. Scheduling at LSU and at Alabama is more about Hartwell’s southern roots than who is available to play.
Andersen was pissed about having this game on the schedule and so am I. You’re damn right we should schedule better (more intelligently), and not sign up for playing the who’s who of the SEC whenever they happen to have an open date. It’s suicide.
If you want to continue to watch this team play well, get new facilities, have players enjoy the shine when new unis come through, then you have to embrace the money games. They aren’t going away.
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I don't know how to avoid these games unless you just want to avoid money games altogether. Playing Kansas, Wake Forest, Rutgers and Purdue gives you a better chance at a win, but it isn't going to give you the money that our program needs. These games have a chance to be memorable. Out of all the games my friends talk about in Aggie football history, the Auburn game fresh off their national championship is one of them. It is one of the biggest "what ifs" in Aggie history. Even though we lost, certainly glad we played it. It was one of the symbols of the USU football turnaround.
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FloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑October 5th, 2019, 2:46 pmI think this is a relevant discussion to be had. Let's examine what a possible recruiting visit might look like.
Player's Mom: please promise me you won't make my son play against bigger or faster players; or teams that are really really good.
Coach: You have my word. In fact, we were scheduled to play at LSU in 2019. But we cancelled. As you are aware, LSU has a very storied college football tradition and initially it was viewed as a great opportunity to showcase our team in the Southeast for recruiting purposes, of course it is a big money game for us, and it would be a great opportunity for a college player at a mid-major MWC school to play a game in fabled "Death Valley". However, our fanbase was worried about players getting hurt so we are cancelling this game and the upcoming game against Alabama which would have been another great experience. We don't want to put additional stress on our players and will replace these games with Southern Utah and Weber State. They don't seem to worry about playing teams with bigger or faster players. Kind of crazy if you ask me, but I guess they aren't able to get HS teams to play them.
Mom: Great. Can my son take a nap?
Coach: Yes, we encourage naps at practice and during games. We even have a "hangnail" protocol every bit as rigorous as the concussion protocol; this was in response to the fanbase concerns after they saw a player with a bandaged finger and launched an investigation against the program.
Mom: I meant, can he take a nap now?
Coach: Of course. Qhen your son wakes up from his nap, have him sign the offer. He can show up on campus whenever he wants. Even after the season begins. We would hate for him to get hurt in practice.
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I prefer sitting our starters until at least the MWC Championship game, maybe even to our NY6 Bowl Game!brownjeans wrote: ↑October 5th, 2019, 4:51 pmI'll go a step further. Not only should we not schedule games like this, we shouldn't schedule any games. Football is dangerous!
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It looks to me like Hartwell is scheduling the games that he can get the maximum amount of money for. These teams are usually pretty good and will always be difficult for us to win at their place. Their level of recruiting is night and day different than USU's. I know for the sake of the budget we need a money game, but could it at least be against teams like Iowa St., Kansas, Oregon St. Vanderbilt, Kentucky, Indiana or even Illinois. I know the payout would be less, but USU could compete and begin to build more of a national reputation. Those are the kind of schools Boise and byu built their programs on.
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Guarantee there’s a 2nd grader in Utah whose awful parents spelled Quinn this way.FloridaAggie13 wrote: Qhen
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Jaxon Qhen McKay SorensenTheAKAggie wrote: ↑October 8th, 2019, 7:25 pmGuarantee there’s a 2nd grader in Utah whose awful parents spelled Quinn this way.FloridaAggie13 wrote: Qhen
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