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Post by Smokin Joe » September 17th, 2019, 3:30 pm

Haney, Jackson and Adams are out for SDSU per GA in the HJ. :bangwall:



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Re: Secondary injuries...

Post by paaron46 » September 17th, 2019, 3:41 pm

Smokin Joe wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 3:30 pm
Haney, Jackson and Adams are out for SDSU per GA in the HJ. :bangwall:
Do we.... do we have any other defensive backs? :shock:


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Post by BigBlueDart » September 17th, 2019, 3:44 pm

paaron46 wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 3:41 pm
Smokin Joe wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 3:30 pm
Haney, Jackson and Adams are out for SDSU per GA in the HJ. :bangwall:
Do we.... do we have any other defensive backs? :shock:
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Post by Roy McAvoy » September 17th, 2019, 3:48 pm

On the radio today Gary said,

"We obviously have some serious issues at corner."



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Post by BearLakeMonster » September 17th, 2019, 4:19 pm

BigBlueDart wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 3:44 pm
paaron46 wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 3:41 pm
Smokin Joe wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 3:30 pm
Haney, Jackson and Adams are out for SDSU per GA in the HJ. :bangwall:
Do we.... do we have any other defensive backs? :shock:
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Re: Secondary injuries...

Post by Aglicious » September 17th, 2019, 4:20 pm

What exactly is the Cam Haney injury and why the slow return?

Maybe GA just playing possum with Rocky?

At this point, I say roll with the youth and see where it puts you further into the schedule. Just let Lampkin and someone like Tatum take the corner spots and send DJ back to the nickel.
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Post by Roy McAvoy » September 17th, 2019, 4:29 pm

If we're really "obviously having some serious issues at corner", I'd love to see this defensive package:

DL: Galeai, Unga, Anderson

LB: Woodward, Tei, Meitzenheimer, Gilliam

Safety: Lefeged, Bond

Corners: Lampkin, Williams

I feel like that's getting a combination of speed and our 11 best available players on the field.
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Post by Machismo » September 17th, 2019, 4:30 pm

Aglicious wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 4:20 pm
What exactly is the Cam Haney injury and why the slow return?

Maybe GA just playing possum with Rocky?

At this point, I say roll with the youth and see where it puts you further into the schedule. Just let Lampkin and someone like Tatum take the corner spots and send DJ back to the nickel.
I'd like someone to call in on the Coaches Show Thursday night and ask if there has been any thought to changing things up a bit in the secondary. I would but I'm too shy.
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Re: Secondary injuries...

Post by Smokin Joe » September 17th, 2019, 4:37 pm

GA said one of the three might be back by SDSU, but it appears "iffy".



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Post by Smokin Joe » September 17th, 2019, 4:38 pm

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Re: Secondary injuries...

Post by ViAggie » September 17th, 2019, 4:43 pm

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Don't get me started on male cheerleaders... ;)
Jealous? Those guys have a pretty good view... of the game :joking:


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Re: Secondary injuries...

Post by NavyBlueAggie » September 17th, 2019, 4:58 pm

paaron46 wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 3:41 pm
Smokin Joe wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 3:30 pm
Haney, Jackson and Adams are out for SDSU per GA in the HJ. :bangwall:
Do we.... do we have any other defensive backs? :shock:
Looking at the roster Adams is Ashton Adams, a 300 lb 6'4" Freshman "O" lineman. Haney is a Sr and Jackson is a Soph. The ranks are thinning out. Curious about the Haney injury as he is a 3 yr veteran and should be fairly hardened to the level of D-1 football after 3 full seasons.



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Post by NVAggie » September 17th, 2019, 5:05 pm

Gary likes an aggressive defense that relies on exceptional corner play. This spells trouble.
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Post by slcagg » September 17th, 2019, 5:10 pm

In the game notes for this weeks game it has Haney as second string corner. Guessing he is still up in the air.



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Post by NVAggie » September 17th, 2019, 5:16 pm

I thought they nearly put Haney in against Stony Brook?



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Re: Secondary injuries...

Post by Aglicious » September 17th, 2019, 5:20 pm

NavyBlueAggie wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 4:58 pm
paaron46 wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 3:41 pm
Smokin Joe wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 3:30 pm
Haney, Jackson and Adams are out for SDSU per GA in the HJ. :bangwall:
Do we.... do we have any other defensive backs? :shock:
Looking at the roster Adams is Ashton Adams, a 300 lb 6'4" Freshman "O" lineman. Haney is a Sr and Jackson is a Soph. The ranks are thinning out. Curious about the Haney injury as he is a 3 yr veteran and should be fairly hardened to the level of D-1 football after 3 full seasons.
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Post by Notatrueaggie » September 17th, 2019, 5:40 pm

NavyBlueAggie wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 4:58 pm
paaron46 wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 3:41 pm
Smokin Joe wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 3:30 pm
Haney, Jackson and Adams are out for SDSU per GA in the HJ. :bangwall:
Do we.... do we have any other defensive backs? :shock:
Looking at the roster Adams is Ashton Adams, a 300 lb 6'4" Freshman "O" lineman. Haney is a Sr and Jackson is a Soph. The ranks are thinning out. Curious about the Haney injury as he is a 3 yr veteran and should be fairly hardened to the level of D-1 football after 3 full seasons.
I am thinking he is referring to the ASU transfer terin Adams
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Re: Secondary injuries...

Post by aggies22 » September 17th, 2019, 5:52 pm

NVAggie wrote:
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I thought they nearly put Haney in against Stony Brook?
They did nearly put Haney in against Stony Brook. I saw it with my own two eyes. Haney was right next to Coach Orphey with his helmet on waiting for the word to take the field.



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Re: Secondary injuries...

Post by NVAggie » September 17th, 2019, 6:01 pm

Yet two weeks later he is likely out.



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Post by sdiggety » September 17th, 2019, 6:39 pm

This is the reason we look good, but not great. Great would have won at WF and wowed at SB.

I get confused by our defense scheme. I don't understand why stack the DL when it isn't getting a good ROI with QB pressure? Why not drop more people into coverage- 3rd linebacker? can we successfully play press coverage? Why not give someone a zone assignment that would pick off a pass that they are repeatedly throwing and having success with? I got sick of WF and SB throwing the same pass over and over and it's like the D never adjusted to stop it.

I just hope the coaches are able to outsmart teams this year. Otherwise, this position group talent-wise looks like the hole that sinks the Titanic. Or maybe it's the scheme they are not having success in? Saturday can't get here soon enough...



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Re: Secondary injuries...

Post by YoungBloodAggie » September 17th, 2019, 6:48 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 4:29 pm
If we're really "obviously having some serious issues at corner", I'd love to see this defensive package:

DL: Galeai, Unga, Anderson

LB: Woodward, Tei, Meitzenheimer, Gilliam

Safety: Lefeged, Bond

Corners: Lampkin, Williams

I feel like that's getting a combination of speed and our 11 best available players on the field.
Tipa and Tei would need to be switched, but this is basically what we are running right now


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Post by Roy McAvoy » September 17th, 2019, 6:51 pm

YoungBloodAggie wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 6:48 pm
Roy McAvoy wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 4:29 pm
If we're really "obviously having some serious issues at corner", I'd love to see this defensive package:

DL: Galeai, Unga, Anderson

LB: Woodward, Tei, Meitzenheimer, Gilliam

Safety: Lefeged, Bond

Corners: Lampkin, Williams

I feel like that's getting a combination of speed and our 11 best available players on the field.
Tipa and Tei would need to be switched, but this is basically what we are running right now
How come you say that? Against Stony Brook this is the exact package we used for a bit. Te’i was playing LB and Tipa was still on the D line.



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Post by YoungBloodAggie » September 17th, 2019, 8:28 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 6:51 pm
YoungBloodAggie wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 6:48 pm
Roy McAvoy wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 4:29 pm
If we're really "obviously having some serious issues at corner", I'd love to see this defensive package:

DL: Galeai, Unga, Anderson

LB: Woodward, Tei, Meitzenheimer, Gilliam

Safety: Lefeged, Bond

Corners: Lampkin, Williams

I feel like that's getting a combination of speed and our 11 best available players on the field.
Tipa and Tei would need to be switched, but this is basically what we are running right now
How come you say that? Against Stony Brook this is the exact package we used for a bit. Te’i was playing LB and Tipa was still on the D line.
Tipa is not a true defensive lineman. He’s definitely a hybrid EDGE/OLB guy that puts pressure on the backfield and plays contain on the weak side. The only difference between the 4-2-5 this year and the 3-3-5 last year is Tipa’s classification. Te’i plays strong side DE, which is much more of a classic role for a DE.


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Post by NavyBlueAggie » September 17th, 2019, 10:06 pm

Notatrueaggie wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 5:40 pm
NavyBlueAggie wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 4:58 pm
paaron46 wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 3:41 pm
Smokin Joe wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 3:30 pm
Haney, Jackson and Adams are out for SDSU per GA in the HJ. :bangwall:
Do we.... do we have any other defensive backs? :shock:
Looking at the roster Adams is Ashton Adams, a 300 lb 6'4" Freshman "O" lineman. Haney is a Sr and Jackson is a Soph. The ranks are thinning out. Curious about the Haney injury as he is a 3 yr veteran and should be fairly hardened to the level of D-1 football after 3 full seasons.
I am thinking he is referring to the ASU transfer terin Adams
Thank you for the update and clarity. I certainly overlooked that transfer.



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Post by brownjeans » September 18th, 2019, 9:46 am

sdiggety wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 6:39 pm
This is the reason we look good, but not great. Great would have won at WF and wowed at SB.

I get confused by our defense scheme. I don't understand why stack the DL when it isn't getting a good ROI with QB pressure? Why not drop more people into coverage- 3rd linebacker? can we successfully play press coverage? Why not give someone a zone assignment that would pick off a pass that they are repeatedly throwing and having success with? I got sick of WF and SB throwing the same pass over and over and it's like the D never adjusted to stop it.

I just hope the coaches are able to outsmart teams this year. Otherwise, this position group talent-wise looks like the hole that sinks the Titanic. Or maybe it's the scheme they are not having success in? Saturday can't get here soon enough...
Vs SB we forced 5 straight 3-and-outs to start the game. By the time they got their first first down of the game, the game was over. If that doesn't wow you, will anything?
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Post by NavyBlueAggie » September 18th, 2019, 9:59 am

Truthful comments Browjeans about the game against S B being over early, yet it was just S B. Appears to me our defense is very athletic, yet not nearly as disruptive as I've seen over the past few seasons... Just me wondering why we are playing such apparently vanilla defense this season.



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Post by AGGIEinIOWA » September 18th, 2019, 10:05 am

I’m assuming the coaching staff has been waiting to unveil some new defensive looks until this game. From my understanding Ena loves to blitz and get after the qb, which we haven’t seen much in the first two games. Wake did that delayed RPO thingy so we probably didn’t get very exotic in that game...and we didn’t need to show our hand at all in the SB game. I’ll be shocked and disappointed if we see the same vanilla against the Aztecs.
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Post by NVAggie » September 18th, 2019, 11:14 am

We may not have the secondary to go all out on the blitz...who knows? Saturday will be very telling to me regarding our defense. I have been extremely underwhelmed.



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Post by AGGIEinIOWA » September 18th, 2019, 11:40 am

At least I don’t think SDSU is equipped to really challenge our corners a whole lot. Sure they say they run a spread now but so think they just do that to open things up for their running game. TBH I like our chances on Saturday.
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Post by BigBlueDart » September 18th, 2019, 1:02 pm

AGGIEinIOWA wrote:
September 18th, 2019, 11:40 am
At least I don’t think SDSU is equipped to really challenge our corners a whole lot. Sure they say they run a spread now but so think they just do that to open things up for their running game. TBH I like our chances on Saturday.
I'm feeling the same way. Though, Gary did mention during the press-conference that SDSU seems to have abandoned the spread and gone back to their heavy 2 or 3 TE sets. Regardless, I think we see more of a ground game from them, though we'll need to stay alert on Pass D. Given that we may not see much blitzing against them, either.



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Post by YoungBloodAggie » September 18th, 2019, 1:04 pm

BigBlueDart wrote:
September 18th, 2019, 1:02 pm
AGGIEinIOWA wrote:
September 18th, 2019, 11:40 am
At least I don’t think SDSU is equipped to really challenge our corners a whole lot. Sure they say they run a spread now but so think they just do that to open things up for their running game. TBH I like our chances on Saturday.
I'm feeling the same way. Though, Gary did mention during the press-conference that SDSU seems to have abandoned the spread and gone back to their heavy 2 or 3 TE sets. Regardless, I think we see more of a ground game from them, though we'll need to stay alert on Pass D. Given that we may not see much blitzing against them, either.
Almost a shame really, because Agnew is not equipped to keep a play alive and I think our DL would have made life very miserable for him if they'd tried to pass 35-40 times.


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Post by aggies22 » September 18th, 2019, 1:30 pm

BigBlueDart wrote:
September 18th, 2019, 1:02 pm
AGGIEinIOWA wrote:
September 18th, 2019, 11:40 am
At least I don’t think SDSU is equipped to really challenge our corners a whole lot. Sure they say they run a spread now but so think they just do that to open things up for their running game. TBH I like our chances on Saturday.
I'm feeling the same way. Though, Gary did mention during the press-conference that SDSU seems to have abandoned the spread and gone back to their heavy 2 or 3 TE sets. Regardless, I think we see more of a ground game from them, though we'll need to stay alert on Pass D. Given that we may not see much blitzing against them, either.
I think they'll come after Agnew hard and make him beat us with his arm.



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Post by ViAggie » September 18th, 2019, 4:03 pm

brownjeans wrote:
September 18th, 2019, 9:46 am
sdiggety wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 6:39 pm
This is the reason we look good, but not great. Great would have won at WF and wowed at SB.

I get confused by our defense scheme. I don't understand why stack the DL when it isn't getting a good ROI with QB pressure? Why not drop more people into coverage- 3rd linebacker? can we successfully play press coverage? Why not give someone a zone assignment that would pick off a pass that they are repeatedly throwing and having success with? I got sick of WF and SB throwing the same pass over and over and it's like the D never adjusted to stop it.

I just hope the coaches are able to outsmart teams this year. Otherwise, this position group talent-wise looks like the hole that sinks the Titanic. Or maybe it's the scheme they are not having success in? Saturday can't get here soon enough...
Vs SB we forced 5 straight 3-and-outs to start the game. By the time they got their first first down of the game, the game was over. If that doesn't wow you, will anything?
RIGHT? Utah barely put up 30 points on Spud State, we doubled their score vs Stony Brook.


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Re: Secondary injuries...

Post by BioAggie » September 18th, 2019, 6:26 pm

Does anybody know anything about Sterzer?



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Post by aggies22 » September 19th, 2019, 6:16 am

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Does anybody know anything about Sterzer?
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