Blake Anderson teams have no discipline. Ever.

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Re: Blake Anderson teams have no discipline. Ever.

Post by NVAggie » November 28th, 2023, 1:32 pm

Discipline is more than just penalties. I know this thread has been dedicated to discussing that point (others bringing in off the field issues as well). There aren't stats for missed assignments, missed tackles, missed blocks, etc. Those are also issues that can be tied to discipline. Also, penalties are even worse when they happen at key moments. There isn't a current stat about how a penalty kills a drive or extends a drive for the other team. Most of these are rather subjective and based on the fan's experience. Maybe it is just misplaced frustration, maybe not.
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Blake Anderson teams have no discipline. Ever.

Post by QuackAttackAggie » November 28th, 2023, 1:42 pm

AGGIEinIOWA wrote:Would be interesting to see a stat showing the penalty differential for each team. Some times teams have a way to pull the opposition to a certain discipline level and both teams get equally penalized so it doesn’t really hurt you. It’s not so bad being heavily penalized like Washington and Oregon if you bait the opposition into equal penalties.
Definitely something there.

Opponent penalties by year: (smaller number is better)
2023 14
2022 17
2021 1

Ark St fluctuates between the 30s and 50s in Blake's years.

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Re: Blake Anderson teams have no discipline. Ever.

Post by CaptainChaos » November 28th, 2023, 2:28 pm

Donman wrote:
November 27th, 2023, 9:21 pm
Foolonthehill wrote:Has any Aggie coach had a disciplined team in the last 25 years? Stupid personal fouls and bad PI penalties seem to be a constant theme going back at least to Dennehy.
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Re: Blake Anderson teams have no discipline. Ever.

Post by coolag » November 28th, 2023, 3:22 pm

Imakeitrain wrote:
November 28th, 2023, 1:23 pm
coolag wrote:
November 28th, 2023, 11:19 am
Imakeitrain wrote:
November 28th, 2023, 10:42 am
coolag wrote:
November 28th, 2023, 9:41 am
Imakeitrain wrote:
November 28th, 2023, 7:00 am
coolag wrote:
November 28th, 2023, 2:18 am
Imakeitrain wrote:
November 27th, 2023, 8:52 pm
coolag wrote:
November 27th, 2023, 5:10 pm
918AGG wrote:
November 27th, 2023, 3:56 pm
Committing a real life crime and getting an often-times very subjective "penalty" in a kid's game are totally unrelated.

This team had to be scrappy (which doesn't include driving while intoxicated) to get to a bowl game. We aren't talented enough to get to a bowl on merit alone, so I don't particularly care how many subjective "penalties" it took to get here.

Unrelated - If Blake's softness on DUIs was a real problem, wouldn't the entire team be out driving drunk every year? Or are Jonesboro and Cache Valley cops just totally out to lunch? Nimrod's case is an outlier.
There is a difference between scrappy and dumb. Scrappy players don't get as many personal fouls as our players. And can we honestly expect different when half the team cares more about their celebrations after an opponent 7 yard gain, than stopping the other team on 3rd and long? Quit coddling Blake. He is a millionaire coach. As to the kiss blowing embarrassment of alo, I've been given the business more by old Sunday school teachers and pee wee football coaches than what Blake gave him. And then trotted him right back out after. Blake and his team are undisciplined. No other way to say it. If that's what we are to expect so be it, but don't get true colory with the fans when we complain about it.
You seriously must be new here. Do you think Wells had a disciplined team? Do you know who Jojo Natson is?
I'm sure Blake appreciates you using Jojo Natson as an example to excuse his teams lack of discipline and excessive penalties on the field. Any more stupid comparisons and excuses?
I didn’t excuse anything. It seems like you’re the one excusing it.

Wells looked the other way more than anyone and Jojo is the a prime example. A lot went on before he was removed from the team.

Not only did he look away he actively recruited Tipa who transferred in large part because of criminal proceedings.

If you’re big character concern with Blake is truly that the team has discipline issues isn’t it fair to compare discipline issues with past coaches?
Good grief. This thread was started to show how Blake's teams have always been very undisciplined on the FIELD of play. The original post proved this. You're talking about off the field issues which is a completely different subject. That has nothing to do with football. ALL coaches have off the field issues with players. Start a thread about that and we can discuss. Maybe you can talk about Hayden Weichers and Wells, or Jermaine Youngers crimes. I'm sure that will help prove a point and excuse the excessive penalties on the field.
Yet then you went into nimrod’s off the field mishap.
Read again. Not interested in off the field issues in this thread and made no reference to the nimrod. Around and around we go.
So you aren't concerned with off the field issues at all. Fair enough. But to claim that this thread isn't about Nimrod when the comment you replied to as well as the very first comment in the thread referring directly to Nimrod as main parts of the thesis is strange.

Outside of the UNM game where penalties were extremely weak the only really bad penalty game we had recently was Nevada which we won by a lot.

Out of the 3 games we lost since September here are our penalty yards

Boise 40 penalty yards - (acceptable)
SJSU 60 penalty yards (elevated)
Fresno 74 penalty yards yards (high)

The game we committed the most penalty yards in is the game we came closest in those losses. The game we were blown out the most in our penalties were quite low. Frankly one of our worst losses was against Air Force and we committed 4 penalties for 17 yards.

We just got beat.

All of our losses- Iowa, JMU, AFA, Boise, SJSU, and Fresno are teams that are more talented than we are. We did not lose any one of these games primarily because of penalties.

I get it you are still butt hurt because you took offense that Blake said "true colors". Be a man and get over it. Because you do show your true colors.
Ok you got me. I don't like stupid celebrations and players having free reign to act like idiots on the field. I also don't like off the field issues which every coach has with players. I also don't like that sjsu and air force are more talented than us. That's embarrassing. So yes, I guess you could say I don't like Blake. And my colors were true blue long before he came around and will be true blue long after he is gone and does not give a rip about USU. I'm the regulator of class, you're the regulator of fandom. And around and around we go.
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Re: Blake Anderson teams have no discipline. Ever.

Post by Imakeitrain » November 28th, 2023, 4:23 pm

coolag wrote:
November 28th, 2023, 3:22 pm
Imakeitrain wrote:
November 28th, 2023, 1:23 pm
coolag wrote:
November 28th, 2023, 11:19 am
Imakeitrain wrote:
November 28th, 2023, 10:42 am
coolag wrote:
November 28th, 2023, 9:41 am
Imakeitrain wrote:
November 28th, 2023, 7:00 am
coolag wrote:
November 28th, 2023, 2:18 am
Imakeitrain wrote:
November 27th, 2023, 8:52 pm
coolag wrote:
November 27th, 2023, 5:10 pm
918AGG wrote:
November 27th, 2023, 3:56 pm
Committing a real life crime and getting an often-times very subjective "penalty" in a kid's game are totally unrelated.

This team had to be scrappy (which doesn't include driving while intoxicated) to get to a bowl game. We aren't talented enough to get to a bowl on merit alone, so I don't particularly care how many subjective "penalties" it took to get here.

Unrelated - If Blake's softness on DUIs was a real problem, wouldn't the entire team be out driving drunk every year? Or are Jonesboro and Cache Valley cops just totally out to lunch? Nimrod's case is an outlier.
There is a difference between scrappy and dumb. Scrappy players don't get as many personal fouls as our players. And can we honestly expect different when half the team cares more about their celebrations after an opponent 7 yard gain, than stopping the other team on 3rd and long? Quit coddling Blake. He is a millionaire coach. As to the kiss blowing embarrassment of alo, I've been given the business more by old Sunday school teachers and pee wee football coaches than what Blake gave him. And then trotted him right back out after. Blake and his team are undisciplined. No other way to say it. If that's what we are to expect so be it, but don't get true colory with the fans when we complain about it.
You seriously must be new here. Do you think Wells had a disciplined team? Do you know who Jojo Natson is?
I'm sure Blake appreciates you using Jojo Natson as an example to excuse his teams lack of discipline and excessive penalties on the field. Any more stupid comparisons and excuses?
I didn’t excuse anything. It seems like you’re the one excusing it.

Wells looked the other way more than anyone and Jojo is the a prime example. A lot went on before he was removed from the team.

Not only did he look away he actively recruited Tipa who transferred in large part because of criminal proceedings.

If you’re big character concern with Blake is truly that the team has discipline issues isn’t it fair to compare discipline issues with past coaches?
Good grief. This thread was started to show how Blake's teams have always been very undisciplined on the FIELD of play. The original post proved this. You're talking about off the field issues which is a completely different subject. That has nothing to do with football. ALL coaches have off the field issues with players. Start a thread about that and we can discuss. Maybe you can talk about Hayden Weichers and Wells, or Jermaine Youngers crimes. I'm sure that will help prove a point and excuse the excessive penalties on the field.
Yet then you went into nimrod’s off the field mishap.
Read again. Not interested in off the field issues in this thread and made no reference to the nimrod. Around and around we go.
So you aren't concerned with off the field issues at all. Fair enough. But to claim that this thread isn't about Nimrod when the comment you replied to as well as the very first comment in the thread referring directly to Nimrod as main parts of the thesis is strange.

Outside of the UNM game where penalties were extremely weak the only really bad penalty game we had recently was Nevada which we won by a lot.

Out of the 3 games we lost since September here are our penalty yards

Boise 40 penalty yards - (acceptable)
SJSU 60 penalty yards (elevated)
Fresno 74 penalty yards yards (high)

The game we committed the most penalty yards in is the game we came closest in those losses. The game we were blown out the most in our penalties were quite low. Frankly one of our worst losses was against Air Force and we committed 4 penalties for 17 yards.

We just got beat.

All of our losses- Iowa, JMU, AFA, Boise, SJSU, and Fresno are teams that are more talented than we are. We did not lose any one of these games primarily because of penalties.

I get it you are still butt hurt because you took offense that Blake said "true colors". Be a man and get over it. Because you do show your true colors.
Ok you got me. I don't like stupid celebrations and players having free reign to act like idiots on the field. I also don't like off the field issues which every coach has with players. I also don't like that sjsu and air force are more talented than us. That's embarrassing. So yes, I guess you could say I don't like Blake. And my colors were true blue long before he came around and will be true blue long after he is gone and does not give a rip about USU. I'm the regulator of class, you're the regulator of fandom. And around and around we go.

I used factual numbers to backup my claims. You just went “reeeeeee”.

But aight bet. If you aren’t a bitter old head where your only sense of self worth is what kids do on the field you don’t care enough. Got it.

I won’t accuse you of being fair weather though. You clearly haven’t had much go your way in life to be this big of a sour puss.

If you want to fire Blake feel free to send in the money to hire the next guy.

Frankly no coach has accomplished what Blake has. A down year - where we still go to a bowl- isn’t the worst place to be. But you and the “SAME AS BRENT GUY”’crowd do you.

With how little control you have of your emotions you probably shouldn’t be talking about discipline.



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Re: Blake Anderson teams have no discipline. Ever.

Post by coolag » November 28th, 2023, 4:37 pm

Imakeitrain wrote:
November 28th, 2023, 4:23 pm
coolag wrote:
November 28th, 2023, 3:22 pm
Imakeitrain wrote:
November 28th, 2023, 1:23 pm
coolag wrote:
November 28th, 2023, 11:19 am
Imakeitrain wrote:
November 28th, 2023, 10:42 am
coolag wrote:
November 28th, 2023, 9:41 am
Imakeitrain wrote:
November 28th, 2023, 7:00 am
coolag wrote:
November 28th, 2023, 2:18 am
Imakeitrain wrote:
November 27th, 2023, 8:52 pm
coolag wrote:
November 27th, 2023, 5:10 pm
918AGG wrote:
November 27th, 2023, 3:56 pm
Committing a real life crime and getting an often-times very subjective "penalty" in a kid's game are totally unrelated.

This team had to be scrappy (which doesn't include driving while intoxicated) to get to a bowl game. We aren't talented enough to get to a bowl on merit alone, so I don't particularly care how many subjective "penalties" it took to get here.

Unrelated - If Blake's softness on DUIs was a real problem, wouldn't the entire team be out driving drunk every year? Or are Jonesboro and Cache Valley cops just totally out to lunch? Nimrod's case is an outlier.
There is a difference between scrappy and dumb. Scrappy players don't get as many personal fouls as our players. And can we honestly expect different when half the team cares more about their celebrations after an opponent 7 yard gain, than stopping the other team on 3rd and long? Quit coddling Blake. He is a millionaire coach. As to the kiss blowing embarrassment of alo, I've been given the business more by old Sunday school teachers and pee wee football coaches than what Blake gave him. And then trotted him right back out after. Blake and his team are undisciplined. No other way to say it. If that's what we are to expect so be it, but don't get true colory with the fans when we complain about it.
You seriously must be new here. Do you think Wells had a disciplined team? Do you know who Jojo Natson is?
I'm sure Blake appreciates you using Jojo Natson as an example to excuse his teams lack of discipline and excessive penalties on the field. Any more stupid comparisons and excuses?
I didn’t excuse anything. It seems like you’re the one excusing it.

Wells looked the other way more than anyone and Jojo is the a prime example. A lot went on before he was removed from the team.

Not only did he look away he actively recruited Tipa who transferred in large part because of criminal proceedings.

If you’re big character concern with Blake is truly that the team has discipline issues isn’t it fair to compare discipline issues with past coaches?
Good grief. This thread was started to show how Blake's teams have always been very undisciplined on the FIELD of play. The original post proved this. You're talking about off the field issues which is a completely different subject. That has nothing to do with football. ALL coaches have off the field issues with players. Start a thread about that and we can discuss. Maybe you can talk about Hayden Weichers and Wells, or Jermaine Youngers crimes. I'm sure that will help prove a point and excuse the excessive penalties on the field.
Yet then you went into nimrod’s off the field mishap.
Read again. Not interested in off the field issues in this thread and made no reference to the nimrod. Around and around we go.
So you aren't concerned with off the field issues at all. Fair enough. But to claim that this thread isn't about Nimrod when the comment you replied to as well as the very first comment in the thread referring directly to Nimrod as main parts of the thesis is strange.

Outside of the UNM game where penalties were extremely weak the only really bad penalty game we had recently was Nevada which we won by a lot.

Out of the 3 games we lost since September here are our penalty yards

Boise 40 penalty yards - (acceptable)
SJSU 60 penalty yards (elevated)
Fresno 74 penalty yards yards (high)

The game we committed the most penalty yards in is the game we came closest in those losses. The game we were blown out the most in our penalties were quite low. Frankly one of our worst losses was against Air Force and we committed 4 penalties for 17 yards.

We just got beat.

All of our losses- Iowa, JMU, AFA, Boise, SJSU, and Fresno are teams that are more talented than we are. We did not lose any one of these games primarily because of penalties.

I get it you are still butt hurt because you took offense that Blake said "true colors". Be a man and get over it. Because you do show your true colors.
Ok you got me. I don't like stupid celebrations and players having free reign to act like idiots on the field. I also don't like off the field issues which every coach has with players. I also don't like that sjsu and air force are more talented than us. That's embarrassing. So yes, I guess you could say I don't like Blake. And my colors were true blue long before he came around and will be true blue long after he is gone and does not give a rip about USU. I'm the regulator of class, you're the regulator of fandom. And around and around we go.

I used factual numbers to backup my claims. You just went “reeeeeee”.

But aight bet. If you aren’t a bitter old head where your only sense of self worth is what kids do on the field you don’t care enough. Got it.

I won’t accuse you of being fair weather though. You clearly haven’t had much go your way in life to be this big of a sour puss.

If you want to fire Blake feel free to send in the money to hire the next guy.

Frankly no coach has accomplished what Blake has. A down year - where we still go to a bowl- isn’t the worst place to be. But you and the “SAME AS BRENT GUY”’crowd do you.

With how little control you have of your emotions you probably shouldn’t be talking about discipline.
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Post by El Sapo » November 29th, 2023, 11:47 am

Blake is a player's coach and there is good and bad in that. Good is that we turn over players quickly and when you have an unruly group they are gone before you know it. It's also good that if you stumble onto a true leader of men like Logan F-ing Bonner, you're not going to handcuff him with a bunch of silly rules and regulations. You support him without reservation. The players see that and rally around their fellow player. They hold each other accountable

The bad is that you look helpless when the players lack good leadership within their ranks, or the players that you've empowered act out in unacceptable ways.

I didn't know that Blake spent time coaching New Mexico. I saw a lot of out traits in that totally out of control NM team.



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