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SDSU's Vaunted Defense

Post by Roy McAvoy » September 16th, 2019, 2:36 pm

Bill Connelly's SP+ ranking system currently ranks SDSU as having the 6th best defense in the nation so far this year. His system uses advanced analytics to account for variables such as SOS.

By just numbers alone, SDSU is also ranked:
- 4th in the NCAA in Rushing defense at 42 yds a game.
- 11th in total defense at 248 yds per game
- 4th in scoring defense at 8 points a game
- 10th in total possession at 35 minutes TOP per game
- 7th in turnover margin



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(Defensive Rankings)
1. Michigan
2. Clemson
3. Michigan St.
4. Auburn
5. Alabama
6. SDSU
7. Georgia
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Re: SDSU's Vaunted Defense

Post by sam tingey » September 16th, 2019, 2:37 pm

That is impressive



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Re: SDSU's Vaunted Defense

Post by NavyBlueAggie » September 16th, 2019, 3:12 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote:
September 16th, 2019, 2:36 pm
Bill Connelly's SP+ ranking system currently ranks SDSU as having the 6th best defense in the nation so far this year. His system uses advanced analytics to account for variables such as SOS.

By just numbers alone, SDSU is also ranked:
- 4th in the NCAA in Rushing defense at 42 yds a game.
- 11th in total defense at 248 yds per game
- 4th in scoring defense at 8 points a game
- 10th in total possession at 35 minutes TOP per game
- 7th in turnover margin

Very impressive defensive statistics,,,outstanding. This game should be very entertaining and likely a bruising contest with both defenses ready to play smash mouth football. Could end up being a one (1) score margin.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... ad-clemson

(Defensive Rankings)
1. Michigan
2. Clemson
3. Michigan St.
4. Auburn
5. Alabama
6. SDSU
7. Georgia
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Re: SDSU's Vaunted Defense

Post by Sl7vk » September 16th, 2019, 3:14 pm

If we could get a special teams touchdown that would be massive in this game.



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Re: SDSU's Vaunted Defense

Post by UncleRico » September 16th, 2019, 3:31 pm

SDSU usually has a very good D. I view this year's numbers recognizing that they have played Weber St, UCLA, and NMSU so far. I can't do advanced analytics, so I just looked at performance relative to how the opponents' O has performed in other games.

Weber had 151 yards (0 points) against SDSU, had 137 (13 points) against Nevada and 457 (41 points) against Cal Poly
UCLA had 261 yards(14 points) against SDSU, had 218 (14 points) against Cincinnati and 201(14 points) against Oklahoma.
NMSU had 329 yards (10 points) against SDSU, had 317 against Washington St (7 points) and 262 (10 points)against Alabama.

These numbers don't mean that much since lots of factors go into these games. However, all three of of SDSU's opponents have put up better numbers against the other FBS teams on their schedules. I am not disagreeing with Connelly or the OP, just some wishful thinking on my part as I remember the last few beat-downs we endured against SDSU. 2010, 41-7; 2015 48-14; 2016 40-13. We finally did it in basketball, so I'm hoping it's football's turn.
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Re: SDSU's Vaunted Defense

Post by NavyBlueAggie » September 16th, 2019, 4:45 pm

Just looking at your recent post UncleRico..... hope is in the air now, at least for me..thank you for the statistics. Yes, trust it is now time for AGGIE Football to step up and be counted.



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Re: SDSU's Vaunted Defense

Post by QuackAttackAggie » September 16th, 2019, 5:32 pm

this is why i am ok with having the off week in week 3. it lets us prepare specifically for this game, which will set the tone for our season. are we playing catch up with boise, hoping they lose? or are we controlling our own destiny to the CCG?



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Re: SDSU's Vaunted Defense

Post by ViAggie » September 17th, 2019, 12:15 pm

NMSU started having their way on offense in the 2nd half but they couldn't quite put it into the EZ. We won't have the same problem. We'll start to wear them down with our no-huddle, hurry up offense.

Dare I say that our Defense is likely better than Weber's?


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Re: SDSU's Vaunted Defense

Post by NVAggie » September 17th, 2019, 12:42 pm

SDSU always has a great defense. Their coach knows how to get it done.



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Post by jeffdan25 » September 17th, 2019, 12:55 pm

SDSU's vaunted defense has given up 330 yards to an awful New Mexico State team. NMSU put up 299 passing yards against that amazing defense. If you believe that our offense wont put up over 400 yrds of offense you're nuts. New Mexico state's problem was they turned it over 4 times and could not put the ball in the endzone and they suck a$$ is the other problem.



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Re: SDSU's Vaunted Defense

Post by Aggie84025 » September 17th, 2019, 1:00 pm

jeffdan25 wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 12:55 pm
SDSU's vaunted defense has given up 330 yards to an awful New Mexico State team. NMSU put up 299 passing yards against that amazing defense. If you believe that our offense wont put up over 400 yrds of offense you're nuts. New Mexico state's problem was they turned it over 4 times and could not put the ball in the endzone and they suck a$$ is the other problem.


[I did not watch the game, was NMSU moving the ball well with the first string SDSU defense in or were a lot of their yards in garbage time against back ups?]



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Re: SDSU's Vaunted Defense

Post by Al-O-Meter » September 17th, 2019, 1:11 pm

Aggie84025 wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 1:00 pm
I did not watch the game, was NMSU moving the ball well with the first string SDSU defense in or were a lot of their yards in garbage time against back ups?
NMSU's passing yard were against the SDSU first string Defense but they came late in the 3rd and 4th quarter after SDSU was up 24-0 at which time NMSU had 72 yards of total offense.



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Re: SDSU's Vaunted Defense

Post by Roy McAvoy » September 17th, 2019, 1:14 pm

jeffdan25 wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 12:55 pm
SDSU's vaunted defense has given up 330 yards to an awful New Mexico State team. NMSU put up 299 passing yards against that amazing defense. If you believe that our offense wont put up over 400 yrds of offense you're nuts. New Mexico state's problem was they turned it over 4 times and could not put the ball in the endzone and they suck a$$ is the other problem.
This is why it’s important to look at context and at least a layer deeper with stats.

With 8 minutes left in the third, NMSU was down 24-0 and had 55 yards total offense. All of those 275 of those 330 yards you mention came after SDSU had a 24-0 lead halfway through the 3rd quarter.

It seems possible the coaches started rotating in more backups and the defense relented a little after the game was seemingly in hand.

Or you can just ignore that and continue to think SDSU sucks I guess. That would imply anything good our football team does against them doesn’t carry much weight because SDSU isn’t any good anyways, right?
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Post by jeffdan25 » September 17th, 2019, 1:27 pm

I wasn't implying that SDSU sucks. I was saying NMSU sucks a$$. while SDSU is a decent team I feel that alot of people on this board are acting like we have to be world beaters to beat them. Their own fan board is very worried with how their secondary will hold up against our offense. They have played no one this year. Weber? decent FCS team. UCLA, and NMSU are dumpster fire FBS teams. If we score 3 or more touchdowns we win this game. Agnew is absolutely awful. So I guess the big question is do you think JLove and company will be limited to only two scores?



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Re: SDSU's Vaunted Defense

Post by AggieUprising50 » September 17th, 2019, 1:33 pm

Thank ranking is going to drop quite a bit after this week. :utah: :state:



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Post by Machismo » September 17th, 2019, 3:24 pm

Our up tempo style should limit what they can do defensively, as far as all the different looks. I think we can cause some problems for them especially having some extra time to throw in a few wrinkles-- Hot Sauce on a jet sweep.. & possibly some screens.
We know they are going to try to keep us off the field with their Running game and slow it down to eat clock, hopefully the D can keep them behind the Chains.


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Re: SDSU's Vaunted Defense

Post by BigBlueDart » September 17th, 2019, 3:40 pm

I like the match ups. Their run defense is solid, but their pass D might have some holes, and that's where I think we are strongest right now. On the other side we are also worried about our pass D, but they tend to run more, and I think our front 7 (or 6?) showed an ability to stop the run by the 2nd half of the Wake Forest game.



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Post by Al-O-Meter » September 17th, 2019, 4:29 pm

Machismo wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 3:24 pm
Our up tempo style should limit what they can do defensively, as far as all the different looks.
FWIW - Coach Rocky Long agrees with your assessment. He says almost exactly that at around the @3:30 mark in his breakdown of the Utah State vs Aztecs game aired earlier today.




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Post by breadysmith » September 17th, 2019, 4:31 pm

I really like Rocky Long...it was a great move by the Aztecs to bring him on board.
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Post by usufan1 » September 17th, 2019, 5:20 pm

Al-O-Meter wrote:
Machismo wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 3:24 pm
Our up tempo style should limit what they can do defensively, as far as all the different looks.
FWIW - Coach Rocky Long agrees with your assessment. He says almost exactly that at around the @3:30 mark in his breakdown of the Utah State vs Aztecs game aired earlier today.

Machismo = Coach Long?

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Re: SDSU's Vaunted Defense

Post by Machismo » September 17th, 2019, 5:23 pm

Al-O-Meter wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 4:29 pm
Machismo wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 3:24 pm
Our up tempo style should limit what they can do defensively, as far as all the different looks.
FWIW - Coach Rocky Long agrees with your assessment. He says almost exactly that at around the @3:30 mark in his breakdown of the Utah State vs Aztecs game aired earlier today.

Thanks for posting, I like ole Rocky much respect for him and his teams, they've owned us many times. I have a feeling you guys have some wrinkles for us as well.


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Post by frankiesaysrelax » September 17th, 2019, 6:56 pm

Machismo wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 5:23 pm
Al-O-Meter wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 4:29 pm
Machismo wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 3:24 pm
Our up tempo style should limit what they can do defensively, as far as all the different looks.
FWIW - Coach Rocky Long agrees with your assessment. He says almost exactly that at around the @3:30 mark in his breakdown of the Utah State vs Aztecs game aired earlier today.

Thanks for posting, I like ole Rocky much respect for him and his teams, they've owned us many times. I have a feeling you guys have some wrinkles for us as well.
Coach Rocky said some nice things about our team at media days this year. He mentioned he thought we were the team to beat this year. You can tell he respects what we can do and that is probably very prepared for it though.



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Post by dyedblue » September 17th, 2019, 9:08 pm

I still can't believe New Mexico ran him off...dude has always had scrappy, hard-nosed defenses.


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Post by Smokin Joe » September 17th, 2019, 9:25 pm

They are going to try hard to bring pressure on Love. Rocky all but said so.



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Re: SDSU's Vaunted Defense

Post by Aglicious » September 17th, 2019, 10:20 pm

Smokin Joe wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 9:25 pm
They are going to try hard to bring pressure on Love. Rocky all but said so.
Rocky says lots of things. They are also a "spread offense" now. :roll:

I wouldn't be surprised if he takes a page from BYU vs USC and goes with a 3 or 4 man front and drops everyone else. I get the feeling they don't have much respect or knowledge of our OL or RB's. He mentions they are good but he seems far more concerned about our QB and WR's. I would love nothing more than to control the trenches in this one.
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Post by aggies22 » September 18th, 2019, 7:44 am

Aglicious wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 10:20 pm
Smokin Joe wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 9:25 pm
They are going to try hard to bring pressure on Love. Rocky all but said so.
Rocky says lots of things. They are also a "spread offense" now. :roll:

I wouldn't be surprised if he takes a page from BYU vs USC and goes with a 3 or 4 man front and drops everyone else. I get the feeling they don't have much respect or knowledge of our OL or RB's. He mentions they are good but he seems far more concerned about our QB and WR's. I would love nothing more than to control the trenches in this one.
We have the opportunity to control the trenches if we play hard enough. The Aztec offensive line returns as many starters (2) as we do and the Aztecs defensive line is less experienced than our 4-man front.
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Post by Rev McQuervo » September 19th, 2019, 6:57 am

Oregon Grad Transfer and the two's have seen lots of action and improves by the week. Our O line is solid- D line is coached by Brady Hoke and plays beyond their level of talent.

https://www.pff.com/news/college-colleg ... 5vgOYprZ7o

Aztecs always play up or down to the level of competition (last 4 of 2018 being an exception), expect a street fight Saturday.



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Post by Aggie in Boise » September 19th, 2019, 1:02 pm

breadysmith wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 4:31 pm
I really like Rocky Long...it was a great move by the Aztecs to bring him on board.
Me too. If Gary leaves again maybe we could hire Rocky. :rock: He speaks very highly of our football program.



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Post by ViAggie » September 19th, 2019, 1:07 pm

Rev McQuervo wrote:
September 19th, 2019, 6:57 am
Oregon Grad Transfer and the two's have seen lots of action and improves by the week. Our O line is solid- D line is coached by Brady Hoke and plays beyond their level of talent.

https://www.pff.com/news/college-colleg ... 5vgOYprZ7o

Aztecs always play up or down to the level of competition (last 4 of 2018 being an exception), expect a street fight Saturday.
I see Wake Forest has the No. 5 ranked D. We didn't have much trouble moving the ball on them, but those damn INT's hurt us bad :disappointed:


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Post by frankiesaysrelax » September 19th, 2019, 1:15 pm

ViAggie wrote:
September 19th, 2019, 1:07 pm
Rev McQuervo wrote:
September 19th, 2019, 6:57 am
Oregon Grad Transfer and the two's have seen lots of action and improves by the week. Our O line is solid- D line is coached by Brady Hoke and plays beyond their level of talent.

https://www.pff.com/news/college-colleg ... 5vgOYprZ7o

Aztecs always play up or down to the level of competition (last 4 of 2018 being an exception), expect a street fight Saturday.
I see Wake Forest has the No. 5 ranked D. We didn't have much trouble moving the ball on them, but those damn INT's hurt us bad :disappointed:
That article was ranking top offensive lines for week 3 and not defenses.
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Re: SDSU's Vaunted Defense

Post by ViAggie » September 19th, 2019, 2:24 pm

frankiesaysrelax wrote:
September 19th, 2019, 1:15 pm
ViAggie wrote:
September 19th, 2019, 1:07 pm
Rev McQuervo wrote:
September 19th, 2019, 6:57 am
Oregon Grad Transfer and the two's have seen lots of action and improves by the week. Our O line is solid- D line is coached by Brady Hoke and plays beyond their level of talent.

https://www.pff.com/news/college-colleg ... 5vgOYprZ7o

Aztecs always play up or down to the level of competition (last 4 of 2018 being an exception), expect a street fight Saturday.
I see Wake Forest has the No. 5 ranked D. We didn't have much trouble moving the ball on them, but those damn INT's hurt us bad :disappointed:
That article was ranking top offensive lines for week 3 and not defenses.
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Re: SDSU's Vaunted Defense

Post by GameFAQSAggie » September 19th, 2019, 5:44 pm

dyedblue wrote:
September 17th, 2019, 9:08 pm
I still can't believe New Mexico ran him off...dude has always had scrappy, hard-nosed defenses.


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New Mexico didn't run him off. He resigned 100% by his choice. He left cause he thought New Mexico didn't have the resources they need to be successful.



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Re: SDSU's Vaunted Defense

Post by NavyBlueAggie » September 19th, 2019, 6:07 pm

IIRC he was the D" coordinator for his first year or two at SDSU. Seemed to me he was the de facto heir apparent for their Head Coach position from the time he was hired. A very proven and solid coach oozing with talent. He will have some surprises for us on Saturday, just look at his interviewing demeanor. Clever man he is.



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